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SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I know now. SorryYou know I was taking the piss with that right?
Stay safe. All bets are off in situations like these indeed
Health care workers should have special hours dedicated for their shopping for me, the work they do is unvaluable, they shouldn't have to worry about finding groceries
It's because we have ganged up on you to ridicule and torment your good self of course.
Or because many posters here know each other and we are a reasonably close knit community you giant weapon..
That's good, hopefully some more good news in next few days. Hopefully they show similar pattern.
Actually the UK government was going to let it infect a huge number of people so that it may mutate and the people become immune. The down side of it is that you do not know how many people will die by infection. The Asian version is that you quarantine and isolate anyone who has been infected and also not let them come into contact with anyone else. That way they can keep them isolated and treat them as well. This herd version in the UK is not being accepted by any Asian country who has been through this. It is the only solution is to keep the infection to as low number as possible and not what the UK is doing.
In cases like this the public should not have any say in what the government is doing. It should have national emergency powers and shut down all public places including schools, Universities, Churches, mosques etc where the public gather or can gather.
Pretty much. I saw YouTube video of a guy in Japan telling how people in Tokyo in February saw a viral tweet about one of the main manufacturers for Toilet paper was Chinese was being closed down. Was false obviously but didn’t stop people and social media going crazy. Stop after in Tokyo a few days but it spread across Europe and isn’t stopped for a month.
I hope this is true. Jesus we could do with something positive. People still not taking this seriously. My local golf course was absolutely full all day. People in groups of 4 all next to each other. It was like nothing is happening.
But they always say it'd take months/years to develop a cure.
In fairness, the study, while promising.....is really quite limited and they acknowledge that in the paper. They've released it due to the urgency of the situation.
I've just had a quick skim read and seemingly the study had a total of 42 patients (of whom 6 dropped out), didn't include ICU patients and the primary endpoints were shedding of the virus, not quite clinical outcomes.
Still, anything is potentially good news so I'll be eager to see what bigger trials show for it.
They’ve been fake doctors on here a lot longer than you’ve been a fake virologist so they’ve got more money in the bank.
Doctors probably know better, but pretty sure these things are actually known and available to hospitals at the moment. Or at least in limited quantities. But don't take it for granted of course.
I don't think we have a choice but to shut down everything. People working worried to keep other people's business afloat in this situation isn't fair anyway.
The Government need to act fast before we end up mirroring Italy in two weeks time, its time for the army to roll on, its time to force us to stay inside rather than give us the option.
It's boring as hell but I value mine and my families lives more.
The Government need to act fast before we end up mirroring Italy in two weeks time, its time for the army to roll on, its time to force us to stay inside rather than give us the option.
It's boring as hell but I value mine and my families lives more.
Has he been banned? Why?
Yesterday we had every radio station in Italy play the national anthem and three popular Italian songs at 11.00. I only knew "Volare", so I looked up the Italian lyrics and sang along.
Younger people got infected from travelling. So their death rate will increase a bit in couple of weeks.
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4
Can see demographics here.
And I suppose they don't wanna make OTT announcements which will make people break the needed confinement measures.
A malaria drug combined with an antibiotic - would be really encouraging news if its repeatable in a bigger group.
I guess we'll be hearing a lot more about possible drugs and combinations over the next month. Got to stay healthy and keep hoping.
The drugs are not new at all. Azithromycin is an antibiotic for all kinds of infections (including STDs!) and Hydroxychloroquine is used for malaria treatment and some autoimmune conditions like Lupus and Rheumatoid arthritis as well.
So if they do work, it would be incredible. We wouldn't need to still develop it, we wouldn't need to hope the company that develops it allows other companies to produce it. It would already be out there.
The study is not exactly.....watertight but let's hope follow up studies also show a positive effect, both for reducing viral loads (and therefore potentially reducing how long someone can infect others) and also as a treatment.
I’m up for shutting down right now too. Pretty exposed at work and more and more people seem to be feeling that way in my anecdotal experience. Still plenty that are ignoring it and they’re the ones making keeping things open impossible.
For sure. Its taken months for (some!) people in the West to start following these methods, probably wouldn't take much to get everyone out again.
Either way, I hope it works!
Of course, that's what I guessed/hoped so it could definitely be a good news!
And still only 3 deaths. We're doing well.
That (
) is what Italy was doing?My understanding is the low German mortality rate is simply statistics.
They have lots of testing kits so test more so get a large number of infected cases (like everywhere else).
But, they are testing lots of young people (unlike most other countries) who are far less likely to die from it.
Hence, mortality rate appears much lower than other countries. (More ventilators MAY help too but I don't think would explain different levels in itself).
(*Based on what I've read, media can't be guaranteed. Saw an article about it earlier in the FT. It was wrapped around my bag of chips)
Not only that. The six who dropped out had one death.
Looks like Dybala tested positive today. Wasn't he tested last week or the week before with entire Juventus squad?
To develop a vaccine. Different antiviral drug combinations still might end up being really useful.
Good info, especially the bit towards the end where he says it will come back again later in the year when the weather gets cool and infect anyone who wasn't infected this time. So barring a vaccine, we will probably have to go through this again at some point.
Thats the state of the roads in Spain for a weekend get always. For the rest of people sorry is in english. But basically. several kilometres of feckING TRAFFIC JAM
https://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2824495/0/retenciones-trafico-inicio-fin-de-semana/
Spain is doomed. Has the worst projection curve in the world. in 4 days will reach close to 1000 deaths per day and our peak is foreseen for 15-21 april. But seeing all this morons, who know if there will be a controlled peak or just a full blown one. If it is controlled peak, we will reach it with 3000 deaths a day at least with more than +50.000 at the peak. going down the peak, another 50.000. And then more...
Looking pretty ugly. My dad is very healthy, no pathologist, but they are rejecting in some hospitals ALREADY the +65. He is 7e, so if he gets it he is dead most likely. He is responsible, stocked for 3 months food and being quite attentive in his disinfection, and cleaning recommendations, but its never 100% perfect. Today I just scared him a bit more, and i cried a little because there are morons that still going out even risking to being fined. As a country we have what we deserve, but as individuals, most likely the stupid ones will survive
I'm currently working from home, my wife has had a cough for a few days so we are self isolating so it's 14 days at home for us.
I don't want to go back to office once it's done, so I'm going to work my arse off from home this next few weeks to prove I don't need to be in the office to work during this issue.
If I have to go back I'm going to make it clear I don't want to. I also feel so sorry for the supermarket workers, low wage and yet they are exposed to so many people a day, my young teenage daughter wanted to grab one of the jobs Tesco are offering but I wouldn't let her.
If you could ride this out in any country, which would you choose?
I think NZ is looking pretty good. Very easy to control borders and decent healthcare. Low population compared to land mass.
Oh thats interesting. That wasn't exactly how they expalined it in the press conference. Thats a good link. You should put that in the other thread
Hong Kong or Singapore. Small, rich and geared up.
Where is Keifer Sutherland?
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Greenland, or I wouldn't mind Norway to bunker down in.
Singapore looks the best place to ride this out.