Italy's healthcare system has been overrun for like 2 weeks now to the point of not being able to properly treat people, elderly population, etc. USA is early in the curve and have just started testing properly basically, they havent reached the point of being overrun yet or the virus being wide spread enough. They are also turning a lot of probable cases away (in certain areas) from testing just telling them to stay home because they don't want to waste the kits, so the numbers. But then you also have some areas that test everyone.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
I've received Government warning texts from three different carriers on my phones/tablets today.
3 Mobile in the morning, EE in the afternoon and Plusnet a few minutes agi.
They're really putting the message out there.
3 Mobile in the morning, EE in the afternoon and Plusnet a few minutes agi.
They're really putting the message out there.
They're just behind that's all.
The people who died today caught the virus 2 weeks ago. 2 weeks ago in the US there were less than 1,000 known cases, in Italy there were over 10,000.
2 weeks on from Italy passing 1,000 cases they had 189 new deaths.
As a scientist and being thoroughly objective, I am actually really intrigued to see what happens if a country just doesn't give a feck about this virus and opens up everything.
I just don't want the UK to be the one that tests this theory.
Apparently getting removed on Apr 8. According to this article it's been two months since they've been cut off from the outside world, surely that's enough for people's immune systems to kill off the virus? Either they won, or they died fighting.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/asia/coronavirus-wuhan-lockdown-lifted-intl-hnk/index.html
It'd be great if they had a message to put out.
Is there any truth in this - 'Scientific modelling which estimates 1,000 cases for every death means the UK currently has about 300,000 people with coronavirus.' And 'Rate of infection meant one million people in the UK will have coronavirus by the end of next week.'
Taken it from Yahoo news
Taken it from Yahoo news
They’re saying that all new cases are coming from people entering the country and they have it contained within. All people entering are screened and tested and have mandatory quarantine for 14 days. Those who pass are given a green code linked to their id. Green codes will be required to enter any buildings. Thus the idea is the cities will open back up with only people who have been cleared. We’ll see over the coming weeks how it plays out.
I don’t see why a self employed person earning over £45k a year should need to take £2900 a month. It should be capped far lower. What are they going to do, pay their mortgage, bills, food and put the rest in their bank account for a summer holiday? Not to mention the self employed who earn more than that.
I’m not talking about the self employed who are living month to month. There’s also a lot of very well off self employed people, who simply don’t need that big of a hand out, especially when lots of people aren’t going to be getting anywhere near that (from the sectors I mentioned previously).
How are the old people in America finding the "let them die and get on with it" rhetoric from Trump? That's his base.
Trump wants country to open by Easter.
It will be too un-Christian to dampen the Easter spirit.
It will be too un-Christian to dampen the Easter spirit.
He's got asthma
They seem to be lapping it up
Domestic electricians and plumbers are absolutely key workers 110%. Households can’t be left with unsafe electrics or unsanitary conditions. At a lower level, electric and functioning plumbing are needed for a family to be reasonably expected to survive in the modern age.
The problem around construction policy currently is that there are tens of thousands of workers using the tube in London everyday. They’re allowing suppliers to stay open so you’ll have jobbing builders working in people‘s houses as an inevitable by-product because they need to work and plenty of householders don’t give a feck.
Cheers for updating this, I needed a break from doing it because it's not exactly enjoyable. That's a bad rise for the UK and Italy. I've added America into the table given someone asked for it, I didn't add India though given they only have had 10 deaths so far. Feel free to keep updating it, probably best if more than 1 person does it to keep data updated at least.Tweet
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Just a caveat for everyone using Worldometer figures:
While they are generally accurate, some figures (like the number of critical patients) are wildly off. This is because not every country reports critical patient numbers consistently in the official report, so they just total numbers from various news sources and that might be quite a bit off.
While they are generally accurate, some figures (like the number of critical patients) are wildly off. This is because not every country reports critical patient numbers consistently in the official report, so they just total numbers from various news sources and that might be quite a bit off.
Virus in the UK is pretty widespread imo, majority of confirmed cases in Lithuania have been brought from people coming from the UK.
Brother, sister-in-law and kids went to visit gran on Sunday apparently. I despair, I really do.
They are fecking idiots. He\s a United fan, maybe on here. I hope he reads this. You're fecking idiots.
They are fecking idiots. He\s a United fan, maybe on here. I hope he reads this. You're fecking idiots.
Very likely a mass panic when the number of dead people reaches thousands per day. Then people will actually stay home even without government directives, businesses would go bankrupt and so on. That is why Trump's (and Boris' former) plan is insane. Even if you accept culling 1-2% of the population to deal with it, it will just have no chance of happening in reality. In fact, I think that is the worst scenario for both the economy and the number of deaths.
What’s the numbers from Spain today ?
Can anyone please share ?
Can anyone please share ?
Makes sense considering how much hate and envy those poor rich people are subjected to.For me the fact that he edited that word out makes it even funnier.
You could say the same about people employed by a company etc too though
I think chief health officer said it is very unlikely but they're not 100% sure yet.
Imagine being the poor sod who gets it, recovers then goes out to find out it IS possible to catch it twice.
And any public health body would recognise the number of new cases is limited by the amount of testing being done and not by actual new cases. We all know there is an order of magnitude greater than that with COVID-19. The “drop” in cases is such a small number to be negligible too, it has such a small degree of confidence. Just looking at these headline figures in isolation does not tell you anything relevant.
If someone can present a fuller, more insightful case for good news. I’d love to read it. The Italians are publishing a fair bit of data.
I would be shocked if that was true
He mostly installs lighting. He’s said himself it’s totally not necessary. Some will be, sure, but most work isn’t urgent.
Going by the headline it sounds a bit more like arithmetic than actual modelling. That's not to say it's wrong though.
My local park today was heaving. Police had to go and disperse everyone. It’s beyond ridiculous.
Presumably the heard immunity people talk about... After the health service is overrun... Though I guess in American
that simply means demand outstrips supply for a few months and the price to be on a ventilator goes through the roof?
The WWE used to do " Please dont try this at home " videos'. Whilst having a serious - comedic nature to them I thought it would be great if they could do one for the coronavirus and send it to children/adults etc as it could save lives.
I'm in W.London. I went for a 15 minute walk and whilst it's extremely quite apart from the people going corner shop there was one person who went to anothers and did not obey the distancing at all.
There should be a list of companies to boycott after this. Makes me sick.
I've seen couple videos floating in Punjab, police are stopping cars/people walking on streets and giving them a few smacks with the wooden sticks. They're also filming them and spreading them (assume to raise awareness and scare the public)
This is fascinating. I've thought this all along and also that it was in Turkey and other places much sooner than cases are now showing. At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy nut, it's hard to believe otherwise considering it supposedly started in China as early as November, is highly contagious, widespread testing didn't start in Europe until February / March, and no restrictions of any sort were in place to stop it in the meantime.
Yep.
Interesting that people are saying there's gatherings everywhere still as I went to shop for self isolated family then went for my daily walk and the closest I saw to a mass gathering was four people in a skatepark.
Saw some Chinese students in the park hugging to pose for a photo. Considered making a gesture towards the idiots but didn't want to seem racist.
Such is life.
Such is life.
Someone in my lab went home to Seattle and said 5 of her friends have it. They seem fine for now.
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Man Fatally Poisons Himself While Self-Medicating for Coronavirus, Doctor Says
An Arizona man and his wife ingested a fish tank cleaning additive made with the same active ingredient as chloroquine phosphate, which President Trump has referred to as a “game changer.”
And this amazing response
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Man Fatally Poisons Himself While Self-Medicating for Coronavirus, Doctor Says
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So basically, rather than get over it and just accept people need to be paid, you want everyone to suffer whilst they figure out who gets what? I mean, you read just like so many people who don't understand that we aren't always self employed to fiddle taxes or get some big wage out of it, the vast majority of us do live month to month as you say.
Also, again, what do you mean by pay it back?
A lot of people clearly don't get how self employed works and think it's just some tax avoidance scheme.
Maybe they were already staying together in one household?