So did Berbatov, Son, Firmino, de Bruyne, Kompany, Haaland, Bellingham, Calhanoglu, Özil, Vidal, Dzeko and so on.
One does genuinely have to wonder if that's actually what it is. Are managers now strategically choosing jobs where they know they'll get sacked and stroll away with a big pay-off, and are happy to pocket the payoff without any regard for personal success? Because I certainly can't say I wouldn't do that if it was me.
I wouldn't blame them. Easy money
He would be waiting a while considering they love Kompany.
It’s because he’s a Liverpool legend. Then again the caf don’t value quality coaching, it’s all kick n rush football at united.
I can't imagine he'd choose Chelsea over you, to be honest. He's a legend at your club, multiple players already excelled under his tutelage, way less of a madhouse than BlueCo and a very good squad on paper. Is your budget restricted because of the enormous outlay last season? Anything I'm missing?
I dont get the liverpool legend thing. He wasn't there very long. It'd be like Veron or Poborsky being United legends. A good player that played for liverpool once and he's never given a single hint that its more than that despite how much other people insist its the case.
You can't imagine it because you look at it from the perspective of a fan of a club. I don't think the majority of players and managers give anywhere near as much of a shit about that sort of thing as football fans on forums
He was dumped fairly unceremoniously by them. Everyone involved at the club during his time is gone. The idea he's going to turn down a good job for them is funny.
I think its a because people want to believe Carrick was the best available choice on the market. To do that they had to either to say we had no chance of getting Alonso (maybe if he was going to pool but now hes going to Chelsea we would've had a chance) or downplay his achievements and say hes not that good. I can see a lot of people eating their words next season.
Nothing to do with sentimentality. I think the points I listed are quite objective (apart from the 'legend' status maybe). I just don't think Chelsea (and BlueCo specifically) are a better choice at this moment in time.
My post was under the assumption that Liverpool were interested. If they weren't or didn't contact him, of course he isn't going to just wait around.
There's nothing to admire about Chelsea. They're a scummy club
It just seems a stupid premise to me. Being a Bayern player didn't stop him taking a job at Leverkusen. If Barcelona or Atletico offered him a job he's not going to say no. He'll take the Liverpool job if its a better offer than the alternatives. They dont even seem inclined to offer it to him.
There is no rivalry between Bayern and Leverkusen.
Veron played 82 games for us, Alonso almost three times as much for Liverpool at 210. He also won the Champions League (reaching another final) as well as an FA Cup with them in a time when trophies weren't as easy to come by for them as in Veron's time with us (who still "only" won a league title with us). Maybe not "legendary" status for Alonso at Pool but a very prolific player for sure. I also don't remember them dumping him, I always thought he primarily wanted to go home to Spain and when Real came calling that was just too tempting an offer? I seem to remember they got a decent fee for him as well.
Again, nothing to do with his status at Liverpool per se. It just seems an objectively worse choice to go to the madhouse that is Chelsea. If they didn't offer him the job, then that's a completely different story.
Benitez pushed him out because he wanted Gareth Barry. Ended up still pushing him out and replacing him with Aquilani
There is nothing to admire about Chelsea football club at the moment. Yeah, they appointed yet another manager in the space of a season. What a win.
Yeah I think he'll do well at Chelsea, sadly. I also don't think he was doing a bad job at Madrid, that club is just a madhouse, same as Chelsea. Probably mainly down to Perez who just doesn't seem to like him. It's not like their form improved since he got the sack as well. Also, they're now seemingly bringing back Mourinho...
fecking hell, I don't remember that. Benitez really is insane, isn't he. Well, I take the portion about them not dumping him back then
I still remember that banner - 'A hero will rise - Alberto Aquilani'
I remember that well. They had a very powerful defensive midfield screen set up with him and Mascherano in 08-09 and then there were stories Benitez wanted to replace him with Barry. Make it make sense
He’s not glued to the back 5 like Amorim was. At Madrid he was playing with a back 4.
He didn’t always play a back 3/5 at Leverkusen either.
I don't think he's taken the job for the money. Unlike a lot of managers, he is a former player who has played for three huge clubs and made a ton of money already. Madrid was an easy choice after Leverkusen, even with how unstable the club is. You just don't turn down an opportunity to manage the biggest club in the world and he was also a former Madrid player. The Chelsea job feels like a good move for Chelsea but a wrong move for him because two back to back managerial failures for him might see him lose all the credibility he earnt with his stint at Leverkusen. I think he's taken this because there really isn't any other top job available, with no indication that United or Liverpool are looking for a new manager.
Some myths will just never die
