Nah. Every new managers needs 3 years, new set of players. It is way to success.
Xabi Alonso | Real Madrid Manager | Sack Watch
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It appears unethical on the face of it.
We yearn for a properly moulded team, playing to a strategy. The idea that you can buy a load of superstars, let them act like divas….and the only strategy is to keep them from throwing their toys out the pram…..and yet they still win…..it’s unethical I tell you
Does it matter?
it's all the catalan fraud's faultIt appears unethical on the face of it.
We yearn for a properly moulded team, playing to a strategy. The idea that you can buy a load of superstars, let them act like divas….and the only strategy is to keep them from throwing their toys out the pram…..and yet they still win…..it’s unethical I tell you
There is no tactic, no strategy, no coaching, that will ever be better than "my players are better than yours" in the long run. There never will be
Incidentally, I was actually paraphrasing said catalan fraud there
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It appears unethical on the face of it.
We yearn for a properly moulded team, playing to a strategy. The idea that you can buy a load of superstars, let them act like divas….and the only strategy is to keep them from throwing their toys out the pram…..and yet they still win…..it’s unethical I tell you
The ethical way to do it is of course to keep one middle aged manager happy and to do that you throw 2-3 players under the bus every season, maybe the medical department, scouts, DOF and the CEO every once in a while.
Basically, thisWhat style and vision, this club is uncoachable
You have the stars and your job is to keep them happy, and make them into a close enough semblance of a team to win the big trophies
You're in the big leagues now, boy.
Please sack him. It’s beneath mighty Real Madrid to take a pasting like that. Have him out on his ear post haste.
He does seem to have issues with the squad which is unbalanced. Vini and Mbappe can't play together effectively and although Guler has been one of their better players he now has to find a way to shoehorn in a fit again Bellingham, which means shifting out their best creative midfielder to the wing.
It works though. Real are unique, I have nothing but admiration for them.
What sort of thread is this like. 7 back to back wins, one poor outing against Atleti and people comparing him to Amorim
It's Real Madrid, they're expected to win against Osasuna, Oviedo, Real Sociedad, Levante, Mallorca (all of them bottom half of the table) and OM. Espanyol are the only team they've faced on a good form.What sort of thread is this like. 7 back to back wins, one poor outing against Atleti and people comparing him to Amorim
And United are expected to beat Grimsby, Fulham and Brentford but here we are. Top of the league with +8 GD isn’t the same shit
Pretty meaningless considering the standards and expectations at Real Madrid are vastly different than those at United at present.
So comparatively, you think Alonso is doing the same as Amorim?
Next Manchester United manager?
Aye. He shouldn't be manager for more than a week. Certainly not past 1st of November - they need to have higher standards than that.
In unrelated news I hear there might be a mansion available somewhere in Northern England soon. I'm sure he could find a job doing something more suitable there.
I don't know how you've come to that conclusion.
Yep. Madrid shouldn’t stand for the besmirching of their regal name. Out on his ear pronto, I say!
Yeah pretty please . Or ugly please, I don't care he needs to be on the job search pronto.
That after two months Atlético puts five past you is anything but healthy. Bellingham shouldn’t have played yesterday.
I’m not sure to what extent this team is really the one he wants or if it’s just been built to keep everyone happy.
I’m not sure to what extent this team is really the one he wants or if it’s just been built to keep everyone happy.
Is he playing the a 3 at the back formation? Or has he changed to a 4 now he’s at Real?
I would kill to have this kind of problems at United.
No 4 at the back.
79% win rate, sack watch... They should stream roller the league pretty much, only h2h games with Barcelona deciding the title.
But he probably needs at least CL semi finals every season or he'll come under pressure...
But he probably needs at least CL semi finals every season or he'll come under pressure...
Played 3 at the back in the derby
Standards, something we don't have as a club.What sort of thread is this like. 7 back to back wins, one poor outing against Atleti and people comparing him to Amorim
Amorim wouldn't have lasted 10 games at madrid
I don't follow Spanish football like I'd want to. What's going on with Bellingham?
I dont follow spanish football either but it seems kind of obvious? The whole team doesn't really fit together so none of the stars are that convincing.
Yukh.
Because it was the basis of my original post mate. Many in here are comparing them
A manager who made his name playing principled and systemic football in a club who considered to be underdogs in comparison to their league's top dogs, why would he be considered appropriate to implement what you've described to begin with?
? Why would a club legend who knows the club inside out be considered appropriate to manage a club where being a club legend and knowing how the club works make you significantly more likely to succeed?
He had surgery after the Club World Cup so he hadn't really played this season. A bit risky to give him a starting spot for such a tough game.
Yeah not sure why he changed it for that game but he's been playing 4 for the previous games.
While helpful it shouldn't outweigh more important considerations.
Also surely it's not the best criteria? From capello in 96 to now only two of your successful managers had spent time at Madrid as players while the likes of Jose and Carlos had nothing to do with the club.
Solari and shuster were relative failures, not exactly a solid success percentage .
Schuster won the league in his first season with the team he inherited from Capello in 2007. But he wanted to play an ultra attacking gung ho style of football wich was not sustainable so he failed bad in the second season and got the sack in December 2008.. He is the most offensive coach of Real Madrid that i have ever seen..
The single most important consideration to make is whether the guy being hired is capable of dealing with being the manager of Real Madrid in the first place
I don't think you get it - the only reason Xabi isn't already in danger of being sacked after ONE bad game at the beginning of the season is that he's Xabi. Without that past, half our fanbase would currently be talking about needing to win the next few games convincingly to show he's still up to the job - the other half would have already decided he's a cretin and needs to be sacked immediately. And this starts with the media
Zidane and Del Bosque were also the most succeasful managers we've had before the Ancelotti II. Capello lasted 1 season each time. Ancelotti may not have come from the club but was at home at the only club we might have considered a peer - and which functioned in a similar manner back then. He'd come with a PhD in managing Real Madrid
Mourinho was one of the most charismatic managers in history. And he came in at a very unique time, when the club had suddenly found itself being the underdog
Solari was a caretaker and Schuster was better than Capello in his 2nd stint. And neither was even good at the job anyways
giorno is exaggerating a bit, Real Madrid do want some systems/tactics etc.
But the main thing is simply that Xabi won a bunch of stuff, people think he's "a winner" and you need that kind of manager at Real Madrid.