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[Sean_RedDevil]

And they have won the Val-de-Marne Tournament .....4-1 win against Japan.

They tend to score a lot but concede a lot too so perhaps the squad isn’t as balanced as others.

You mean last year in the U15 group?

Because the results as U16 are
Croatia 2-0
Croatia 0-0
Scotland 1-0
Turkey 2-1
France 3-1
Austria 4-2
Japan 4-1

 

[Classical Mechanic]

And they have won the Val-de-Marne Tournament .....4-1 win against Japan.

You mean last year in the U15 group?

Because the results as U16 are
Croatia 2-0
Croatia 0-0
Scotland 1-0
Turkey 2-1
France 3-1
Austria 4-2
Japan 4-1

I was basing it from the last years 15s yes. They have done well to win that tournament. Be interesting to see if we can keep Dembele and Barry.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

I was basing it from the last years 15s yes. They have done well to win that tournament. Be interesting to see if we can keep Dembele and Barry.

I saw now the 2017 results.....wow

Barry has already played for Ireland so hopefully yes.

 

[africanspur]

Morgan Gibbs-White looked excellent when coming on today. Really exciting.

 

[Dante]

Morgan Gibbs-White looked excellent when coming on today. Really exciting.

I came here to post exactly that. The kid looks special.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

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[Sean_RedDevil]

3-1 win for England (with ten men for 35 minutes)....Greenwood, Elliott and Mighten were goalscorers.

Livramento, Sarmiento, Mengi and Okoflex aren't in the squad.

Also no Joe Hodge because he has chosen to play this time for Ireland.

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Other games
November 11: Germany
November 14: Czech Republic

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Cirkin was sent off for England and there was a bit of a flare up between the two sides.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

U21
Squad
Goalkeepers
Dean Henderson (Sheffield United, loan from Manchester United)
Angus Gunn (Southampton)
Freddie Woodman (Newcastle United)
Defenders
Aaron Wan-Bissaka (Crystal Palace)
Kyle Walker-Peters (Tottenham Hotspur)
Jake Clarke-Salter (Vitesse Arnhem, loan from Chelsea)
Dael Fry (Middlesbrough)
Ezri Konsa (Brentford)
Fikayo Tomori (Derby County, loan from Chelsea)
Jay Dasilva (Bristol City, loan from Chelsea)
Midfielders
Lewis Cook (Bournemouth)
Tom Davies (Everton)
Phil Foden (Manchester City)
Josh Onomah (Sheffield Wednesday, loan from Tottenham Hotspur)
Kieran Dowell (Everton)
Forwards
Dominic Solanke (Liverpool)
Dominic Calvert-Lewin (Everton)
Tammy Abraham (Aston Villa, loan from Chelsea)
Demarai Gray (Leicester City)
Ademola Lookman (Everton)
Reiss Nelson (Hoffenheim, loan from Arsenal)
Ryan Sessegnon (Fulham)
Harvey Barnes (West Bromwich Albion, loan from Leicester)

Games (Friendlies)
November 15: Italy
November 20: Denmark

U20
Squad
Goalkeepers
Will Huffer (Leeds United)
Aaron Ramsdale (Bournemouth)
Nathan Trott (West Ham United)
Defenders
Tom Edwards (Stoke City)
Reece James (Wigan Athletic, loan from Chelsea)
Ben Wilmot (Watford)
Easah Suliman (FC Emmen, loan from Aston Villa)
Trevoh Chalobah (Ipswich Town, loan from Chelsea)
Lloyd Kelly (Bristol City)
Midfielders
Ronaldo Vieira (Sampdoria)
Sam Field (West Bromwich Albion)
Joe Willock (Arsenal)
Eberechi Eze (Queens Park Rangers)
Marcus Tavernier (Middlesbrough)
Elliot Embleton (Grimsby Town, loan from Sunderland)
Andre Dozzell (Ipswich Town)
Forwards
Eddie Nketiah (Arsenal)
George Hirst (OH Leuven)
Grady Diangana (West Ham United)
Kyle Edwards (West Bromwich Albion)
Adam Lewis (Liverpool)

Games (Elite League)
November 19: Germany

U19
Squad
Goalkeepers
Curtis Anderson (Manchester City)
Josef Bursik (Hednesford Town, loan from Stoke City)
Billy Crellin (Fleetwood Town)
Defenders
Max Aarons (Norwich City)
Tariq Lamptey (Chelsea)
Jonathan Panzo (AS Monaco)
Timothy Eyoma (Tottenham Hotspur)
Marc Guehi (Chelsea)
Bukayo Saka (Arsenal)
Steven Sessegnon (Fulham)
Jake Vokins (Southampton)
Midfielders
Conor Gallagher (Chelsea)
Morgan Gibbs-White (Wolverhampton Wanderers)
Rekeem Harper (West Bromwich Albion)
Nya Kirby (Crystal Palace)
George McEachran (Chelsea)
Forwards
Danny Loader (Reading)
Stephen Walker (Middlesbrough)
Callum Hudson-Odoi (Chelsea)
Emile Smith-Rowe (Arsenal)
Ian Poveda-Ocampo (Manchester City)

Games (European Championships - Qualifying Round 1)
November 14: Moldova
November 17: Iceland
November 20: Turkey

U18
Squad
Goalkeeepers
Luca Ashby-Hammond (Fulham)
Arthur Okonkwo (Arsenal)
Marcus Dewhurst (Gainsborough Trinity, loan from Sheffield United)
Defenders
Vontae Daley-Campbell (Arsenal)
Nathaniel Ogbeta (Manchester City)
Ajibola Alese (West Ham United)
Pascal Kpohomouh (Southampton)
Clinton Mola (Chelsea)
Luke Thomas (Leicester City)
Midfielders
Daniel Adshead (Rochdale)
Faustino Anjorin (Chelsea)
Anthony Gordon (Everton)
Paris Maghoma (Tottenham Hotspur)
Bali Mumba (Sunderland)
Forwards
Sam Greenwood (Arsenal)
Tyreece John-Jules (Arsenal)
Folarin Balogun (Arsenal)
Curtis Jones (Liverpool)
Arvin Appiah (Nottingham Forest)
Morgan Whittaker (Derby County)

Games (Murcia Tournament)
November 15: Netherlands
November 17: Ireland
November 19: Belgium

 

[duffer]

Cool to see Tino Anjorin make the 18s. He's one to watch for sure.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

3-1 win for England (with ten men for 35 minutes)....Greenwood, Elliott and Mighten were goalscorers.

Livramento, Sarmiento, Mengi and Okoflex aren't in the squad.

Also no Joe Hodge because he has chosen to play this time for Ireland.

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November 11: Germany
November 12: Czech Republic

2-2 against the germans.

 

[LFCFAN]

Morgan Gibbs-White looked excellent when coming on today. Really exciting.

Another quality prospect from the u17 world Cup winning squad who along with Foden, Sancho, Hudson-Odoi, Panzo and Brewster will make England very competitive in future tournaments.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Morgan Gibbs-White looked excellent when coming on today. Really exciting.

Another quality prospect from the u17 World Cup winning squad who along with Foden, Sancho, Hudson-Odoi, Panzo and Brewster will make England very competitive in future tournaments.

Nearly scored a stunner in the 95th minute to give Wolves the win at the weekend.

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[Sean_RedDevil]

The U19's have won 4-0 against Moldova this morning to start their qualificiation.....goalscorers were Gallagher, Loader, Saka and Sessegnon.

Iceland have beaten Turkey 2-1 in the other game.

Starting XI
Bursik - Lamptey, Panzo, Guehi, Sessegnon - Gibbs-White, Gallagher, McEachran - Smith-Rowe, Loader, Hudson-Odoi
Subs
Kirby -> Gibbs-White 70
Poveda-Ocampo -> Smith-Rowe 70
Saka -> Hudson-Odoi 70
Walker -> Loader 82
Eyoma -> Guehi 85
Bench
Anderson, Crellin, Aarons, Vokins & Harper

 

[Classical Mechanic]

The U17s winning streak came to a disappointing end with draws against Germany and the Czech Republic in the mini tournament. Germany won the tournament of GD by beating Ireland by one more goal than England did.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

The U17s winning streak came to a disappointing end with draws against Germany and the Czech Republic in the mini tournament. Germany won the tournament of GD by beating Ireland by one more goal than England did.

Do you have the line-ups?

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Do you have the line-ups?

I haven’t seen it on any of my usual sources, sorry.

 

[JB08]

Lloyd Kelly (Bristol City) has made the step up from U20 to U21 this week. He's a player I've tracked a lot and he really has so much promise. I'm interested to see how he does.

Would love nothing more than to see him signed as a young backup to Shaw, similar to the Dalot signing. I genuinely think he has enough potential. I think he'll end up at someone like Everton/Watford next season.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

The Young Lions are 2-1 up after 60 minutes.....Solanke with both goals for England and Mois Kean has scored for Italy.

I still hope any stupid club in China or wherever wants Boothroyd in the next weeks.

Starting XI
Henderson - Walker-Peters, Tomori, Clarke-Salter, Dasilva - Foden, Cook, Davies - Gray, Solanke, Sessegnon
Subs
Kelly -> Clarke-Salter 2
Nelson -> Gray 64
Calvert-Lewin -> Solanke 64
Dowell -> Davies 70
Abraham -> Sessegnon 70
Bench
Gunn & Woodman

 

[Dante]

Nearly scored a stunner in the 95th minute to give Wolves the win at the weekend.

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The kid is special. I know everyone is getting moist about Neves (and rightly so), but I'd happily take Gibbs-White instead.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

The U18's have played 2-2 against the Netherlands in the Murcia Tournament.....England's goalscorers were Adshead and John-Jules.
Ashby-Hammond saw the red card after just three minutes.....England still were 2-0 up after 18 minutes......a shame the result was a draw in the end.

Next match is against Belgium on Saturday.

Irleand have won 2-1 against Belgium in the other match.

Starting XI
Ashby-Hammond - Daley-Campbell, Ogbeta, Kpohompouh, Thomas - Anjorin, Gordon, Adshead - Jones, John-Jules, Appiah
Subs
Okonkwo -> Gordon 6
Maghoma -> Anjorin 74
Mumba -> Adshead 74
Balogun -> Jones 84
Bench
Dewhurst, Binks, Mola, Whittaker & Lloyd-Bennett

 

[Classical Mechanic]

The U18's have played 2-2 agains the Netherlands in the Murcia Tournament.....England's goalscorers were Adshead and John-Jules.

Next match is against Belgium on Saturday.

Irleand have won 2-1 against Belgium in the other match.

Starting XI
Ashby-Hammond - Daley-Campbell, Ogbeta, Kpohompouh, Thomas - Anjorin, Gordon, Adshead - Jones, John-Jules, Appiah
Subs
Binks -> Appiah 32
Mumba -> Gordon 73
Balogun -> Jones 75
Bench
Okonkwo, Dewhurst, Binks, Maghoma, Mumba, Mola, Whittaker, Lloyd-Bennett & Balogun

Sorry, looked like my match report was only half done!

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Great game between Italy and England 21s. England took the win but it could have gone either way with both teams having lots of chances. United’s Dean Henderson was fantastic in goal. Lewis Cook was excellent too. I thought England played the better technical football especially round the box. Kean looked awesome for Italy, so powerful and with some quality too.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

Sorry, looked like my match report was only half done!

You are writing match reports?

Anyway the subs of the U18 match in my post were wrong.....updated.

Great game between Italy and England 21s. England took the win but it could have gone either way with both teams having lots of chances. United’s Dean Henderson was fantastic in goal. Lewis Cook was excellent too. I thought England played the better technical football especially round the box. Kean looked awesome for Italy, so powerful and with some quality too.

I think they can/should play much better football but that isn't possible with Boothroyd (He's like Löw).

Just two CB's in the squad (Fry and Konsa have withdrawn) was a terrible decision too......Tuanzebe or at least Chalobah (Holgate must leave Everton in January) should be in the squad.

Henderson has improved so much that is really amazing ......just a shame Gunn has made the wrong decision with the Southampton move and Woodman can't leave Newcastle.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

I think they can/should play much better football but that isn't possible with Boothroyd (He's like Löw).

Just two CB's in the squad (Fry and Konsa have withdrawn) was a terrible decision too......Tuanzebe or at least Chalobah (Holgate must leave Everton in January) should be in the squad.

Henderson has improved so much that is really amazing ......just a shame Gunn has made the wrong decision with the Southampton move and Woodman can't leave Newcastle.

Boothroyd is a poor coach no question. I do think they've looked better with Foden and Nelson in the team though, more fluid and technical in attacking areas. I think they did well overall against Italy. They went away from home and won, you can't have it all your own way in those conditions. That said, a controlling midfielder like Garner would improve the side. Cook and Davies are at a good level but don't control the game so it can be a bit up and down.

I don't write reports, I just picked up a Dutch one that was from when England were 2-0 up, my fault for not translating it!

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

Boothroyd is a poor coach no question. I do think they've looked better with Foden and Nelson in the team though, more fluid and technical in attacking areas. I think they did well overall against Italy. They went away from home and won, you can't have it all your own way in those conditions. That said, a controlling midfielder like Garner would improve the side. Cook and Davies are at a good level but don't control the game so it can be a bit up and down.

I don't write reports, I just picked up a Dutch one that was from when England were 2-0 up, my fault for not translating it!

Well of course a 2-1 away win in Italy is fantastic and it was a good performance.....but like i've said i still think the team could play so much better with the right coaching.

Yep a loan move for Garner next season is very important.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

The U18's have won 3-1 against Ireland in the second match of the Murcia Tournament.....John-Jules with two goals and Balogun with the other goal......England were behind til the 75th minute.
Interesting that Ashby-Hammond was available after his red card in the first game.

The last match is against Belgium on Monday.

Belgium 2-2 Netherlands in the other game.

Table (after two games)
1) England--...--4 5-3
2) Ireland.........3 3-4
3) Netherlands..2 4-4
4) Belgium..--..-1 3-4

Starting XI
Ashby-Hammond - Daley-Campbell, Ogbeta, Binks, Thomas - Gordon, Maghoma, Mumba - Whittaker, Balogun, Lloyd-Bennett
Subs
Mola -> Gordon 58
Appiah -> Whittaker 58
Jones -> Lloyd-Bennett 58
John-Jules -> Maghoma 58
Adshead -> Mumba 81
Bench
Okonkwo, Dewhurst, Kpohompouh & Anjorin
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The U19's have won 3-1 too against Iceland in their Euro qualification.....goalscorers were Sessegnon (The LB already scored in the first game) and two goals from Walker.

The last match is against Turkey on Tuesday.

Turkey have won 3-0 against Moldova in the other game.

Table (after two games...the first two are reaching the next stage of the qualification in March)
1) England----6 7-1
2) Iceland......3 3-4
3) Turkey.......3 4-2
4) Moldova.---0 0-7

Starting XI
Bursik - Aarons, Eyoma, Guehi, Sessegnon - Gibbs-White, Gallagher, Harper - Smith-Rowe, Walker, Hudson-Odoi
Subs
Loader -> Gibbs-White 78
Kirby -> Gallagher 86
Poveda-Ocampo -> Smith-Rowe 86
Saka -> Hudson-Odoi 90+1
Vokins -> Sessegnon 90+1
Bench
Anderson, Crellin, Lamptey, Panzo & McEachran

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

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[Sean_RedDevil]

Another title for a Young Lions team after the 3-1 win against Belgium......John-Jules, Anjorin and Appiah were the goalscorers.

And that all without Greenwood, Garner, Saka, Laird, Alese and Crowe.

Ireland 1-0 Netherlands was the result in the other game.

Table
1) England--...--7 8-4
2) Ireland.........6 4-4
3) Netherlands..2 4-5
4) Belgium..---.-1 4-7

Starting XI
Ashby-Hammond - Daley-Campbell, Ogbeta, Binks, Mola - Anjorin, Mumba, Adshead - Jones, John-Jules, Appiah
Subs
Thomas -> Daley-Campbell 46
Maghoma -> Adshead 46
Balogun -> John-Jules 46
Kpohompouh -> Ogbeta 60
Whittaker -> Jones 60
Gordon -> Anjorin 73
Lloyd-Bennett -> Appiah 73
Bench
Okonkwo & Dewhurst
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The U20's have won 2-0 against Germany in the Elite League.....goalscorers were J.Willock and Nmecha.

Great to see it was a sell-out crowd (7,648) in Colchester.

Table

Two more games against Poland and Portugal next year.

Starting XI
Ramsdale - James, Chalobah, Suliman, Lewis - Dozzell, Field, J.Willock - Diangana, Nketiah, Embleton
Subs
Tavernier -> Dozzell 64
Ronaldo Vieira -> Field 64
Nmecha -> Embleton 64
Eze -> Diangana 73
Downes -> Willock 89
Bench
Trott, Huffer, T.Edwards, Wilmot & K.Edwards

 

[Classical Mechanic]

U19s lose to Turkey away so will be second seeds in elite qualifying. Strange thing was that Gibbs-White, Hudson Odoi and Smith-Rowe all started on the bench against a good Turkey side. Perhaps the manager has a thing about double barrel names.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

Starting XI
Bursik - Lamptey, Eyoma, Panzo, Vokins - McEachran, Kirby, Harper - Poveda-Ocampo, Loader, Walker
Subs
Gibbs-White -> Loader 46
Saka -> Kirby 65
Sessegnon -> Vokins 71
Gallagher -> Harper 71
Hudson-Odoi -> Poveda-Ocampo 82
Bench
Anderson, Crellin, Aarons, Guehi & Smith-Rowe

U19s lose to Turkey away so will be second seeds in elite qualifying. Strange thing was that Gibbs-White, Hudson Odoi and Smith-Rowe all started on the bench against a good Turkey side. Perhaps the manager has a thing about double barrel names.

Pot 3 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_UEFA_European_Under-19_Championship_qualification#Draw_2)

To rest many of the best players against the best opponent was just

But good news that Sancho, Nelson, R.Sessegnon or Foden are still available for the age group
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A better result for the U21's with a 5-1 win in Denmark.......2x Solanke, 2x Calvert-Lewin and Gray were the goalscoreres.

Tuanzebe's U21 career is definitely over.....Konsa was still injured a few days ago

Starting XI
Henderson - Walker-Peters, Konsa, Simpson, Dasilva - Foden, Cook, Dowell - Nelson, Solanke, Gray
Subs
Kelly -> Dasilva 62
Calvert-Lewin -> Foden 62
Tomori -> Walkers-Peters 73
Davies -> Cook 73
Sessegnon -> Gray 73
Bench
Gunn, Woodman & Abraham

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

Results for the U21-U16 (September -> November)
Games: 44
Wins: 35
Draws: 7
Loses: 2
Goal scored: 118
Goals conceded: 36

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Saka (17) impressed on his full senior debut for Arsenal.

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Hudson Odoi impressed again in the EL.

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[Dante]

I was just thinking about Guardiola's influence on the national teams of the countries in which he manages.

Barcelona from 2008 to 2012. Spain win a World Cup and 2 Euros. They played Pep-ball.

Bayern from 2013 to 2016. Germany win a World Cup. Again, they played Pep-ball.

City from 2016 to present. England have their best tournament in decades and our style of play has improved hugely on what came before. Not quite playing Pep-ball, but getting there.

If Pep's coaching methods can continue to have an influence on his squad (and by extension City's England players), I think there's potential to build on what happened in Russia.

The talent is already coming through in droves. The philosophy is now being ingrained as well. Whether it's enough to bridge the gap to the big 4 (Brazil, Germany, Spain and France) remains to be seen. There are reasons to be hopeful, though.

 

[HerrLeinad]

We (Germany) weren't playing "Pep-ball" in 2014 (ball possession vs France and Brazil was nearly equal). The worst mistake Löw made in the WC was to use Lahm as CM like Guardiola and we improved as soon as that was fixed. What happened in 2016 and 2018 is seen as one of the big faults in our development in recent years. We abonded the good mix we had and became an uninspired LvG like possession team.
I hate that the WC win always gets brought up with Guardiola. The german NT was on its way up long before Guardiola and Heynckes(!) team and brand of football shaped the core of that team as well as it's style of football (Löw's more balanced approach in that time frame certainly resembled Heynckes' teams more than Guardiolas Bayern).
It's a different thing for Spain, no arguments from me there but for German NT football overall he had at best a neutral impact.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

CHO from the other night.

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[africanspur]

So wasn't sure exactly where to post this but thought this would be one of two relevant threads.

http://thechels.net/2018/12/how-does-a-hudson-odoi-become-an-mbappe/

Now, a disclaimer. This post is genuinely not meant as a targeted criticism at Chelsea (though they seem worse than most), it is an affliction of the English clubs in general.

But with the news that Pulisic is coming, though potentially to replace Hazard/Willian, and that Bayern are looking to sign CHO, we may be seeing the loss of another of our top talents abroad because they don't see a realistic route through to the first team.

The thing about the loans also rings very true. Now, some of the things going wrong are down to him for sure but Josh Onomah is a case in point. Making appearances here and there at Spurs and then being farmed out on loan in the championship where a) the style of play doesn't suit him b) he isn't being played in his position more often than not and c) he's somehow had the misfortune to end up under the dinosaur Bruce 2 seasons running. I feel for him.

I feel we need to change our attitude to youth players in general in this league.

 

[africanspur]

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Also, unrelated to the above but have to say thanks to @Sean_RedDevil and @Classical Mechanic for the work they do in this thread and others. Very informative about England's youth teams and I look forward to many of these players breaking through.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

There are a few players from The Championship deserving of being on that list, namely Jared Bowen and Harvey Barnes in the wide attacking right and left positions respectively. Lloyd Kelly at left back. At right back you could add Aarons, Bogle and James. There also Smith-Rowe and Saka at Arsenal that are getting minutes this season too. It's worth including Abraham too as he's supposed to be joining Wolves this January after scoring nearly a goal and game for Villa this season. There will be more that I can't think of at the moment too.

Bowen, Aarons and Kelly are linked with Spurs in this window. Kelly also linked with Liverpool and United.


https://www.whoscored.com/Players/322596/Show/Jarrod-Bowen

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/331382/Show/Harvey-Barnes

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/332419/Show/Lloyd-Kelly

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/362103/Show/Maximillian-Aarons

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/354291/Show/Jayden-Bogle

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/361330/Show/Reece-James

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

Also, unrelated to the above but have to say thanks to @Sean_RedDevil and @Classical Mechanic for the work they do in this thread and others. Very informative about England's youth teams and I look forward to many of these players breaking through.

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BEST AVAILABLE SQUAD (*if all players would be fit)
Starting XI: Gunn - Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Clarke-Salter, Chillwell - Winks; Maddison, Alli - Sancho, Rashford, Sessegnon

Bench: Henderson, Woodman, Wan-Bissaka, Tomori, Kelly, Cook*, Loftus-Cheek, Mount, Gray, Nelson, Calvert-Lewin & Abraham

If Rice decides to play for England then he's surely in the squad.

Other options: Walkers-Peters, Kenny, Tomori, Holgate, Fry, Tuanzebe, Maitland-Niles, Davies, Choudhury, Foden, Gibbs-White, Barnes, Bowen, Hudson-Odoi, Lookman, Solanke

But the realistic Euros U21 squad is 100% without Alli & Rashford........Gomez, Chillwell & Sancho are unlikely too.......but Loftus-Cheek, Alexander-Arnold, Maddison & Winks are likely in the squad.

But England's best ever Euros U21 squad will be in 2021