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Germany deserved winners. We look less than the sum of our parts, as we have done throughout all qualifying.

This break all the tier 2 wide players failed to impress: Gray, Lookman, Barnes and Nelson. Foden shows his class in movements but our lack of control in games means he doesn’t get on the ball enough. I was impressed with Clarke-Salter and Tomori in centre defence. I don’t think we have a chance of winning the Euros unless CHO comes along and adds some stardust, even that might not be enough with Boothroyd at the helm. We really need to be developing coaches rather than bringing in dross like Boothroyd just because he has senior experience. He’s been getting away with it for too long. The team has no ID.
 

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Germany deserved winners. We look less than the sum of our parts, as we have done throughout all qualifying.

This break all the tier 2 wide players failed to impress: Gray, Lookman, Barnes and Nelson. Foden shows his class in movements but our lack of control in games means he doesn’t get on the ball enough. I was impressed with Clarke-Salter and Tomori in centre defence. I don’t think we have a chance of winning the Euros unless CHO comes along and adds some stardust, even that might not be enough with Boothroyd at the helm. We really need to be developing coaches rather than bringing in dross like Boothroyd just because he has senior experience. He’s been getting away with it for too long. The team has no ID.
Well said

Our team could be Gunn - Alexander-Arnold, Rice, Gomez, Chilwell - Maddison, Winks, Alli - Sancho, Rashford, Hudson-Odoi and we wouldn't win the Euros.....it makes me sick that Boothroyd only has the job because he ...... ... ... .. somebody at the FA :mad:
 

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Well said

Our team could be Gunn - Alexander-Arnold, Rice, Gomez, Chilwell - Maddison, Winks, Alli - Sancho, Rashford, Hudson-Odoi and we wouldn't win the Euros.....it makes me sick that Boothroyd only has the job because he ...... ... ... .. somebody at the FA :mad:
I must say, I was impressed with Henderson’s kicking tonight. He was actually hitting long passes with consistency. Thought he could have saved the first goal though.
 

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The U17's have qualified for the Euros in May with an dramatic 3-2 win against Denmark :)
Good that Trafford saw no sent-off :nervous:

Starting XI
Trafford - Livramento, Wood-Gordon, Harwood-Bellis, Roberts - Knight, Weir, Azeez - Mighten, S.Greenwood, Rogers
Subs
Bate -> Weir 58
Madueke -> Mighten 58
Gelhardt -> Knight 73
Mengi -> Rogers 90+3
Bench
Bondswell, Peart-Harris & Elliott

Goalscorers
1-1 Madueke 79
2-1 Gelhardt 88
3-2 Madueke 90+2

Final table
1) England.........7...8-4
2) Croatia..........5...4-3
3) Switzerland....2...4-7
4) Denmark.....--1...5-7

Qualified teams (The tournament starts already in 5 weeks)
Ireland (Host)
England
Italy
Netherlands
Portugal
Iceland
Germany
Austria
Czech Republic
Russia
6 more teams will qualify in the next days.
 

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Allison Rudd did a piece on some scouts that were watching the u19s play the Czech Republic. It was a pretty awesome display by England and the scouts were bowled over, one of the scouts described watching the Greece - Denmark game after as ‘watching football in slow motion’. How then we managed to conspire to lose to Greece and draw with Denmark to allow the Czech Republic win the group is a mystery. A major flop for England.

The 17s were a bit messy but they were missing a number of talents, Musah and possibly a few other dual nationals might have registration issues.

Nomi Madueke, now with PSV, was looking good, scroll over for the goals. The last goal to win the group in the dying seconds was great.

 

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Allison Rudd did a piece on some scouts that were watching the u19s play the Czech Republic. It was a pretty awesome display by England and the scouts were bowled over, one of the scouts described watching the Greece - Denmark game after as ‘watching football in slow motion’. How then we managed to conspire to lose to Greece and draw with Denmark to allow the Czech Republic win the group is a mystery. A major flop for England.
Like said Downing must go because the whole qualifications were shocking and unacceptable.

Qualifying Round
To lose against Turkey in the Qualifying Round was already a very poor result.....in the Elite Round Turkey have lost against Scotland (Not a bad team but not a great team) and drawn against Cyprus (The worst team in the Qualifying Round).

Elite Round opponents
- Denmark (The third worst team in the Qualifying Round)
- Greece (They have won all games in the Qualifying Round but their opponents were pretty easy with Romania, Bulgaria & Gibraltar)
- Czech Republic (2-3 very good prospects in their team but all in all the team is average and their group was not so tough with Croatia, Macedonia & Luxembourg).

Plus the games were at St George's Park and not on some awful pitches in Czech Republic or Greece.

Like said no Sancho, Hudson-Odoi, Foden and Smith-Rowe but the team was still good enough to beat this teams.

If we would have been in a group with Spain/France/Ireland from Pot 1 or we would have been in a group with the Netherlands then the Euro qualification would have been hard work.
The 17s were a bit messy but they were missing a number of talents, Musah and possibly a few other dual nationals might have registration issues.

Nomi Madueke, now with PSV, was looking good, scroll over for the goals. The last goal to win the group in the dying seconds was great.
They have struggled too much.....Madueke has looked good but Musah and especially Carvalho were massive absences.......i was also surprised there wasn't much rotation (No start for Gelhardt and no minutes at all for Bondswell).
 

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Wow you have a lot of competitions for all NTs at youth level. In South America we only have the South American U-17/20.
 

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Great night for the Young Lions. Hudson-Odoi and Foden both make their Premier League debuts and impress.

Loftus-cheek (yes, he still qualifies as a Young Lion) had a great game too. 8 goals this season for Chelsea which is not bad considering his injuries and limited chances.

 

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The u16s are playing in a really high quality mini tournament currently


Lost their first game to Argentina 1-2 although Argentina got a very soft penalty and England missed a penalty of their own.


Beat Ivory Coast 5-0 in their second game


Beat Portugal 3-1 today but due to Argentina’s result will contest the 3rd place playoff against Brazil.


Lot of dual nationals in the team most notably Chelsea’s Musiala who has appeared for Germany before and they’re desperate to get him on board, they name him in every official squad even when he chooses England.

Louie Barry is a top talent too and has appeared for Ireland.

Charlie Patino is English and Spanish.

Dembele eligible for England, Scotland and Ivory Coast, scored for England against IC.

Liam Delap is the son of Irish international Rory!
 

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16s beat Brazil 4-0 in the 3rd place playoff, they completely outclassed them by all accounts. Brazil resorted to some nasty tactics with a player sent off for a bad stamp on Dembele at 1-0 and another player sent off at 4-0 late on for a second yellow.

Goals

Dembele
Delap
Musiala
Barry


3rd place very respectable with such an elite field but they will probably feel they could have done better given the context of the loss against Argentina.
 

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It really is a good time for English football, lots of talent coming through. Fingers crossed some of them make it to the top
 

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Jude Bellingham made his debut last night for Birmingham in the League Cup aged 16. He was their only player to play well by all accounts.

A bit surprised to see that Birmingham signed Dan Crowley, former England youth international but now declared for Ireland. He was a good player in the Erdivisie, just shows that outside of a few teams the Erdivise is about Championship level.
 

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Crowley was a youth player for us. Arsenal signed him when he was about 17 and that was bad move for his career, seemed to get a big time attitude as he was being constantly sent back early from loan spells. Move to Holland seems to have switched him on mentally again and he'll be starting week in week out at the Blues.

Holland is a good league for any young English player to move to I think, English widely spoken and not too far from home and standard of play isn't that much of a step up from championship.

Think I'll just use this thread to point out when Morgan Gibbs White starts a game. :D
 

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u17 World Cup winner Jon Panzo to start for Monaco in their first game of the season hopefully. The progress of centre backs from England's successful youth sides in 2017 has been far from great so hopefully he can make an impression.