Your midfield 3?

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  1. Aug 13, 2019 at 10:10
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    I don't believe there should be a set midfield 3. I believe Lingard, Fred, Pereira, need game-time, in the midfield and 10 in Fred's case, and in 10 in the other cases, because they should be fighting for their futures and showing they belong. This season is a test for those players, hopefully a transformative one. Gomes can also come in at times but that shouldn't be with a burden of expectation.
  2. Aug 13, 2019 at 10:13
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    Bestietom Full Member

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    I'm all for giving Gomes a chance, but as a 10.
    In tough games against the top 6/7, I would play Mctominay, Fred, Pogba.
    Home games against the lower teams I would like to see Mctominay, Pogba, Gomes.
  3. Aug 13, 2019 at 10:28
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    Gomes got the technical and passing ability, and is suprisingly good at shielding the ball when pressed by one player despite his size.
    If we are able to press more as a cohesive unit, his lack of size will not be as important(look at how Xavi was able to function in Barcelonas pressing despite being neither fast nor strong). Additionally, if our aim is to become better at ball retention, then Gomes is one of the few players in the squad capable of doing this at a high level.

    Pereira can pass when given time, but does not perform well while pressed.
    Matic can play when against team sitting low and not pressing. Against oppositions that press or can move the ball he will struggle.
    Garner is not Carrick. Dylan Levitt is the one most similar to Carrick, and would be the one to potentially play the controlling/passing role. Garner is a B2B player, Jack of all trades, but a master of none.
  4. Aug 13, 2019 at 10:39
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    Fred
    McT Pogba
    Gomes
    Rashford Martial

    Fred for Greenwood/James/Lingard etc when we’re chasing a game.
  5. Aug 13, 2019 at 10:58
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    In normal circumstances I agree however we're talking about the EPL here. Can you see someone like Gomes battling around defenders such as Maguire for most of the 90 minutes? That doesn't mean that he hasn't got a future with us. He'll be more suited on the left wing, battling out the right back and then shift deceivingly inside the small box

    I am also not that comfortable with playing Gomes as no 10 when Pogba is still around. I don't think that Pogba is suited for a 2 men CM and if he is, then you need a beast like Kante or Keane near him not McT.
  6. Aug 13, 2019 at 10:59
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    I can't help thinking that Periera is more suited as a winger or a mezzala rather then as a CM. His crossing is quite good.
  7. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:03
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    McTominay, Fred and Pogba as a 10.
  8. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:05
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    Didn't Phil Jones used to play DCM at Blackburn? Maybe give him a run in that position in the early cup matches, see if he has still got it?
  9. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:10
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    He doesn't really have that burst of pace that's needed for a winger. Everyone seems to think he's a lost cause but I just think with regular game time he'll begin to show a lot more, he's far more talented than people give him credit for. But yeah he's got an excellent delivery, we'd also be much stronger from set pieces with him in the team.
  10. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:13
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    If we are able to press as a cohesive unit, like Barca and City, then this mitigates the need for having extremely fast players like Rashford sprinting in the press. That being a big IF, because it is very difficult to achieve. Liverpools pressing is not as cohesive but they are good at it and with Firminhos positioning it makes it easier.

    Gomes as a player is more suited to a possessionbased team and would suit well with the style Guardiola prefers. Same as Mata would.
    Pogba and Gomes could play together if we were better at keeping the ball, and we would be better at keeping the ball if they played together...

    What you suggest with playing on the wing and drifting inside is the most likely position he will get playtime this season.
  11. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:14
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    The 4th option
  12. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:17
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    What has Fred done so far in his Man Utd career? Can anyone suggest any moment when he's looked even remotely competent? In the absence of such evidence, I would have to go with Pereira, McT and Pogba, with a front 3 of Rashford, Martial and Lingaard. Plenty of creativity in that team and Rashford and Martial to swap places on the pitch repeatedly throughout the game as part of a fluid attacking trio - just need Rash to find his shooting boots.
  13. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:22
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    Pogba, McTominay, Garner.
  14. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:23
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    I'd say Pogba, Fred and McTominay, but Solskjaer is obviously looking at 4231, so I'd go with Pogba, McTominay and Lingard or Gomes until we can bring in a DM.
  15. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:25
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    Fred, Pogba and McTominay for me. Quick, powerful and good pressing. Really am hoping Fred will push on this season
  16. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:30
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    ----Pogba
    Fred -- McTominay

    Thou Periera is currently more suited to the premiership than Fred. Fred has great attributes to become a very good deep laying playmaker and I feel this season he could begin to show it.

    I would also like to see a Midfield (4) diamond:


    ---------------Lingard
    ------
    -----Pogba-------------McTominay
    ---------------
    -----------------Fred
  17. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:31
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    I'm not Lingard's biggest fan but I would like to see him being the most advanced midfielder - with McTominay and Pogba working behind him. If not Lingard, then Mata in the #10.
    I don't see what Pereira or Fred can offer us at the moment, based on their previous appearances.
    I believe that would also see James and Greenwood given plenty game time on the right flank.
  18. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:31
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    I think the general consensus is that Fred must be a much better player than he showed last year. At Shakhtar he was touted as a high energy, technical midfielder who can win the ball back and play Hollywood passes from deep. Perhaps it's wishful thinking he'll improve but he definitely should be given chances considering our lack of options.
  19. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:31
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    I'd love to see us at least give Pogba, McTominay and Gomes a go. Having two players as technically gifted as Pogba and Gomes could go some way in helping us control the midfield. Gomes might prove that he's not quite ready but I'd like to see us try it.
  20. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:35
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    Why do you think so? I think they have similar drawbacks, but Fred is a lot more physical and has no problem getting himself into the action.
  21. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:42
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    Would love this, but it's hard not to be concerned that we are leaving our defence with very little protection.
  22. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:46
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    Yes I agree with you with the drawbacks. Periera seems to handle the speed of the game better and physically too (going forward shielding the ball). Fred does get stuck in more and is better defensively.
  23. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:50
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    I beg to differ on that. Pogba is Pogba. He'll give you minutes of absolute brilliance followed by lapses of concentration. A Pep run team would probably hate Pogba because he does lose possession and he won't run enough to win the ball back.

    Under such circumstances you simply to have to build the team around him. That means a three men CM with him, a defensive minded midfielder and a box 2 box one. You might be able to play with a 2 men CM however you would need an absolute beast like Kante to do so.

    Gomes can and should have a career with United. However I think he's better suited on the flank. His magic would be fully exploited there while limiting any issues coming from his lack of physique
  24. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:50
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    Ole will have to find a solution for midfield until he is able to reinforce our squad. I think we are far behind other teams in this area and it could be where we lose some games this season. I hope that we find someone for the January window.
  25. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:56
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    He's not James if that's what you're asking. However he's got enough pace to be a good inside forward. Its all about the players we'll be playing and the system we'll be using. If we got 3 CM that have enough quality and workrate to let inside forwards up for most of the time then someone like Angel Gomes would be an absolute nightmare to play against. He'll sit just between the full back and the CB causing all sort of havoc
  26. Aug 13, 2019 at 11:58
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    What they said.
  27. Aug 13, 2019 at 12:04
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    We don't play with a midfield 3.
  28. Aug 13, 2019 at 12:08
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    Pogba,Mctominay,Fred in a midfield 3...,Although I still have doubts about the quality of Fred and Mctominay,but given the options at our disposal right now,these 3 should be our midfield 3...
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    Pogba, McTominay and give Fred, Garner, Gomes chance to win 3rd spot.
  30. Aug 13, 2019 at 12:25
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    Big/Important Games:
    Fred --- McTominay --- Pogba​

    Vs Small Teams:
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    McTominay --- Pogba

    Sub: Gomes (*sub him in 2nd half at #10/CAM*)​
  31. Aug 13, 2019 at 12:27
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    No white text?:lol:
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    Basically what Ole put out against Chelsea but I'd really love it if Fred could get up to speed. He doesn't seem Ole's fancy.
  33. Aug 13, 2019 at 12:40
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    Ideally Jones will see if he has still got it at another club.
  34. Aug 13, 2019 at 12:48
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    McTomminay, Pogba, Gomes by a fecking mile.

    The other 3 arent good enough
  35. Aug 13, 2019 at 12:50
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    That underrates Gomes hugely.
  36. Aug 13, 2019 at 12:57
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    Our play would immediately improve with Gomes in the team. We are crying out for a player of his ilk.
  37. Aug 13, 2019 at 13:03
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    We've only seen Gomes play youth football, preseason and the odd token sub appearances late in a game. He has obvious quality but if anything I think he's getting over-hyped. He's yet to start a game for the first team and already people think he's the new messiah. I'm backing him to become a great player for us (if he stays..) but you talk about him like he's already an accomplished player when he's an 18 year old prospect.
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  38. Aug 13, 2019 at 13:05
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    Nope, don't recall asking that at all :lol: Just don't think he's got the pace to be an exciting option out wide.
  39. Aug 13, 2019 at 13:08
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    He played there several times for United under Fergie as well plus a few times for England under Capello and did very well but its years ago now

    With the likes of Fred and Matic not in the first team at the moment, it unlikely that Jones will be needed there again
  40. Aug 13, 2019 at 13:14
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    Yes, but in isolation he is extremely vulnerable defensively --> IF we are able to play/press/spacing as a unit then Gomes should be played as a midfielder.