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Maybe you're right. I just thought these two goals were a little bit similar, not too much, but a bit:
Impossible to know. Ibrahimovic has stated many times that he's been tired, actually from December when Mourinho used him too much. Even Mourinho said that he didn't want to use Ibra that much but was 'forced' to (Europa League position was difficult during that period).
He's a lot closer to goal there.
I know that's why I said it was a bit similar, not too much. But Ibrahimovic did this in the 88th minute, which was pretty good for him, tired and all.
There is "no way" he would have scored a 1-on-1 with the keeper? Right..
15-20 years of data with Zlatan, 2 years of data with Rashford..
He doesn't have the pace to score from that position in the first place and his one on one finishing has been especially poor this season. He was through on goal one on one a few games ago, closer to goal than that and they play caught up to him before he shot.
It was a cracking finish vs Palace no question.I know that's why I said it was a bit similar, not too much. But Ibrahimovic did this in the 88th minute, which was pretty good for him, tired and all.
I still hope Mourinho will use them in 4-4-2. It's worth a try before deciding what to do. Play with 1 or 2 strikers, if it's 1, should Rashford be the starter?
I'm lost as to what your point is.
How do you work that out considering on Thursday, Zlatan said he was extremely tired.
And I'm saying they don't, there's a lot more to it.
I don't need help, not in that sense anyway.
It's true that he couldn't have scored in the same way as Rashford did yesterday because he's obviously too slow, but you said there's no way he'd score even if the defence didn't catch up with him, which is a bit cynical. Just because he's missed a few 1-on-1's this season doesn't give him a 0% chance to score on the next one.
Vardy only scored 13 goals in 40 matches this season including only 11 in the league , 3 of them were in one match vs City , with the same team he had scored 24 goals in the league only previous season.
Ahmed you are putting a fight to defend Zlatan just as you do in kooora Cafe
I'm actually not defending Zlatan here but if we took this stats strictly , then Vardy should be better than Aguero , Costa and Sanchez , something that's clearly not true.Ahmed you are putting a fight to defend Zlatan just as you do in kooora Cafe
He might not be better, but he is not that far away. He is a very good striker and if we had him this season he would have done a big difference in draw series that we had at OT specially if he comes on from the bench.I'm actually not defending Zlatan here but if we took this stats strictly , then Vardy should be better than Aguero , Costa and Sanchez , something that's clearly not true.
I saw you in the newbie thread while I was there and have my doubts that you're from Kooora so good to confirm my doubts
. Nice to talk to you again.He's definitely a good striker, but I just believe the whole thing about "conversion rates" are not very accurate because as you see it made Vardy the best striker in the league and better than all strikers of the top 6 teams which can't be true , even if he's better than Zlatan he can't be better than Aguero or Sanchez as the stats made. That's my point.He might not be better, but he is not that far away. He is a very good striker and if we had him this season he would have done a big difference in draw series that we had at OT.
Your doubts are true
I've not checked the stats for the forwards you've quoted but for Costa and Kane, because they play for the two teams fighting for the title and that's what United should be doing.
I agree with this, but then I don't expect Ibra to score 35 league goals per season.
Just curious, why shouldn't Ibra score a stupid amount League goals? For the sake of argument, say he'd missed the same number of big chances Costa has he'd have 25 league goals. This is a striker that scored 50 times last season.
Good read, I think another problem in this regard is Pogba with 136 shots contributing a rather pathetic 10 goals in all competitions. (whoscored)
Van Persie was on the top the 'Big Chances Missed' ranking - 23.
The top 7 goalscorers in each team looks like this right now:
This does not contradict the idea that most teams have a key striker who supplies most their goals.
Yes, and there are seven league games for us left to play. Its very conceivable, based on Ibra's chance conversion rate, that he will finish the season with a higher big chances missed number than any of those strikers. I mean, he's already missed the same amount of Big Chances as Kane and Lukaku did in the entirety of the last league season.
That is worse than I thought.
Well, you can't be sure how his stats are going to be in the last 7 games. He could get 10 more chances missed, but he could also stay at his current 18, which won't be that bad if you'll compare it with others.
In a sense he's his own worst enemy, the overt self embellishment of his own talent means he'll always be open to criticism whether fair or not.
It really gets annoying sometimes with his style of talking. He's always loved Muhammad Ali so it's no surprise that he tries to do something similar. I really like that he doesn't take interviews seriously but sometimes he exaggerates too much. You just have to take the bad with the good.
You know that most of the time he's joking that way, right?
Exactly.
I believe the best way to settle this is to have a compilation video of big chances missed by both RvP and Zlatan and do a research how they have affected the final outcome of the game.
