It wasn't aimed at individuals, but scatter gun insults are still not conducive to constructive debate, particularly in one that touches on race.
Zlatan tells Lukaku "‘Go do your voodoo s***, you little donkey"
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I don't know, you tell me? People practicing voodoo don't, yet you believe they do.
The problem for me is that I don't think that it's that common for people to make references to that cultural aspect of west Africa. That's why I'm wondering if Lukaku didn't say something and Moshiri built a story around it, I don't think that it's accurate because he talked about voodoo but the origin of the story could come from Lukaku himself.
Tbh most religious/spiritual rituals come off as weird for people unfamiliar to it.
Hang on, what the hell is a voodoo doll then. Not voodoo?
In the west most people only know of voodoo dolls I'm sure through dodgy tv programmes where mentalists are sticking pins in dolls. That's how it's portrayed anyway.
Does anyone have evidence of Lukaku practising voodoo at any point in his life? Because if he does/has then that puts Ibra's comments into perspective.
Having read more about it, Moshiri seems to have got it from the fact Lukaku completed a pilgrimage to Lourdes and that's about it.
I'll just get my crystal ball out
Right.
Ah okay, Moshiri is an idiot then.
Obviously I meant by way of a media story or something.
Leave your crystal ball out of this mess.
It's actually relatively easy to define, and is only applied to a small fraction of fights and arguments in football. Which leads me to believe you have no intention of trying to understand what is and isn't racist, and why.
"Romelu is very Catholic and voodoo is not part of his life or his beliefs. He simply had no faith in Everton and no confidence in Mr Moshiri’s project. That is why he did not want to sign on any condition. He wanted to make the next step in his career and wanted the security to be able to leave."
That's what we know about the connection between Lukaku and voodoo. Seems pretty clear to me.
This is easily sorted, they both slap some gloves on and someone makes it a PPV. I’d gladly pay 19.99 to watch Lukaku beat the snot out of Zlatan. All proceeds go to the Kick it out campaign or something.
To be honest this is the kind of thing that probably always goes on just now with no crowd we hear it a lot better when there are proper war of words between people.
To be honest this is the kind of thing that probably always goes on just now with no crowd we hear it a lot better when there are proper war of words between people.
When two players are giving it large just them then fight.
I'm not defending what anyone said. I was responding to the below post:
I'm not sure why either of you are inserting an "I"or "I'll" into what Lukaku said.
When you say 'feck you' to someone you are not telling them you are going to feck them. It's just a general insult.
I'd bet on Zlatan. He's been training martial arts all his life.
As a wise man once said;
"The Voodoo hoodoo what you don't dare do people"
And I think we should all live by that.
"The Voodoo hoodoo what you don't dare do people"
And I think we should all live by that.
I would bet on Lukaku's first touch, he will probably knock out Zlatan when trying to grab him.
Man the amount of times we all called Lukaku a useless donkey. Zlatan must have read these forums.
Not having it I’ve seen Lukaku hitting the pads he even whiffs past Zlatan and Zlatan will fold like a deck of cards.
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The inter players are missing a trick here if they don’t start humming Jim Hendrix - Voodoo Child, anytime they’re around Lukaku.
“Dewnderderdewn........”
“Dewnderderdewn........”
Still that 3rd person shit
He’d have to hit the target first though.
Bloody hell, that's quite the leap
Well I'm a Caucasian male, living in the UK but I do play on all fours... and have horns.
Where I am from, we call it juju.
'In Zlatan's world'
Jesus Christ
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'Some better than others'
Sly.
Jesus Christ
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'Some better than others'
Sly.
Are people being obtuse. If kids wanted to insult the African kid at school, stuff involving “voodoo” would be on the list, it’s a racial stereotype. Even black Caribbean kids used to use it against African kids in school. Just because it’s not common, or not targeted against black people in general, doesn’t mean it’s not racist.
not even worth answering such a stupid reply.
So that's that then. Case closed. Zlatan has spoken.
More likely miss and smack the referee
Or he said it because he 100% knew it would wind Lukaku up.
I would be offended if someone said I practice voodoo just because I am Nigerian.
So Lukaku himself has make it clear, he is taking this whole voodoo as religious thing rather than racist thing then?
Then Ibra can't have said voodoo shit as it makes no sense whatsoever, then again neither does wooden shed.
I'm betting on "you earn shit" or words to that effect.
I'm usually the first person to support a player who claims racism as long as there is evidence however I'm not sure how people are hearing "Voodoo" and "shit" here after a few listens instead of "wooden" and "shed" which is being said with a slightly strange pronounciation (which probably explains why there is partly a misunderstanding here).
If you imagine a russian or german saying "wooden" and "shed" the w in wooden become a slightly stange Vee sound (as with most W's in German) and the D in shed is being mangled slighly probably again due to Zlatan's accent which whilst he may have been brought up in sweden his accent has aways sounded anything but to me, and has always sounded more eastern European hence him sounding slightly Russian to me more than Swedish (I'm aware he was born in Eastern Europe hence why he would sound this way) .
If you imagine a russian or german saying "wooden" and "shed" the w in wooden become a slightly stange Vee sound (as with most W's in German) and the D in shed is being mangled slighly probably again due to Zlatan's accent which whilst he may have been brought up in sweden his accent has aways sounded anything but to me, and has always sounded more eastern European hence him sounding slightly Russian to me more than Swedish (I'm aware he was born in Eastern Europe hence why he would sound this way) .
Really? Are you sure? Have you been to African school, or did you just make that one up?
I am not trying to be too sceptical, but its first time I heard about using this term being racist.
Lukaku was born in Antwerp, Belgium.
Isn't Ibra a fully-fledged endorser of the Kick it Out campaign? it would seem strangely out of character for him to display racism.
So, according to this, Lukaku said "I'll shoot you in the head"?!
Well, to me this ought to be the real eyebrow raiser. Not so much wether Zlatan said "wooden shed" or if it was "voodoo".