Chelsea's FA Cup Draws

[Pexbo]

Bloody hell it's a bit of a joke now isn't it?

Here's their draws up to the semi finals each year.

05/06
3rd Round: Huddersfield
4th Round: Everton
5th Round: Colchester
6th Round: Newcastle

06/07
3rd Round: Macclesfield
4th Round: Nottingham Forest
5th Round: Norwich
6th Round: Spurs

07/08
3rd Round: QPR
4th Round: Wigan - Away
5th Round: Huddersfield
6th Round: Barnsley - Away

08/09
3rd Round: Southend
4th Round: Ipswich
5th Round: Watford - Away
6th Round: Coventry - Away

09/10
3rd Round: Watford
4th Round: Preston - Away
5th Round: Cardiff
6th Round: Stoke

10/11
3rd Round: Ipswich
4th Round: Everton

11/12
3rd Round: Portsmouth

Games in Blue are Games played at Stamford Bridge.
Teams in Bold were not in the Premier League.


To Summarize the 23 Draws:

1. 18 were drawn at Stamford Bridge.
2. 17 were against Non-Premier League Teams.
3. 1 Away game against Premier League opposition before the neutral stages.
4. Every single 3rd round draw has been at home, against non-Premier League opposition.

 

[rcoobc]

From the other thread.

Their "Double" makes me physically sick. I may sound bitter, but its true. Watford home, Preston away, Cardiff home, Stoke home, Villa neutral, Pompey neutral.

It just makes me forever hate them, they barely deserved the Premier League either.

Yup. Hate it. It devalues the competition, whether its random or not (and I'm sure it is).

It makes me want the FA Cup to become seeded, which is something I want more and more each passing year. Away's to smaller teams are great, for both them and the apathetic Old Trafford ticket holders. It is something a bit different instead of the Premier League monopoly. 3 of those followed by bigger games, whether over 2 legs or replays, would be fantastic.

But yeah, makes me hate them.

 

[Pexbo]

From the other thread.


Yup. Hate it. It devalues the competition, whether its random or not (and I'm sure it is).

It makes me want the FA Cup to become seeded, which is something I want more and more each passing year. Away's to smaller teams are great, for both them and the apathetic Old Trafford ticket holders. It is something a bit different instead of the Premier League monopoly. 3 of those followed by bigger games, whether over 2 legs or replays, would be fantastic.

But yeah, makes me hate them.

To be honest I never want the FA Cup to become seeded, it would kill every single thing the cup stands for and every reason the Cup is so cherished and it would never have the history it has if there was a seeding system in place.

I just wish lady luck would stop sucking Abramovich's cock.

 

[Ole's_toe_poke]

From the other thread.


Yup. Hate it. It devalues the competition, whether its random or not (and I'm sure it is).

I'm sure you thought our double in 1994 was a shit achievement too.

Sheffield United, Norwich, Wimbledon, Charlton, Oldham and Chelsea.

 

[Cutch]

18 out of 23 at home is incredibly fortunate

 

[Pexbo]

I'm sure you thought our double in 1994 was a shit achievement too.

Sheffield United, Norwich, Wimbledon, Charlton, Oldham and Chelsea.

1. Premier League
2. Premier League
3. Premier League
4. Division 1
5. Premier League
6. Premier League


Yeah, not a bad FA Cup Run at all.

 

[rcoobc]

To be honest I never want the FA Cup to become seeded, it would kill every single thing the cup stands for and every reason the Cup is so cherished and it would never have the history it has if there was a seeding system in place.

I just wish lady luck would stop sucking Abramovich's cock.

The thing that kills me about the Cup, is when Championship clubs talk about not putting out their first teams, the once chasing Premier League promotion anyway. I understand it, but it kills the competition. It would be nice to give them real incentive, like playing rounds last 16 onwards over two legs, for more money. It does kinda swap the Fa Cup and League Cup's histories a bit, and obviously everyone who cares about stuff like "The 3rd round being in the 1st week of January" will hate it, but for me the FA Cup is in crisis.

I'd like the FA Cup winner to face the 4th place Prem team for a Champions League spot, for it to be seeded, or it to be over 2 legs after Last 16, and for Prem teams to enter at Last 128, instead of 64. But all I actually care about is that the FA Cup returns to its rightful place as a major competition.

The other thing is, La Liga cheats by putting its top teams in at the Last 16 stage, which means they always get big games. How can the English game compete with that.

But on Chelsea, fecking cnuts

 

[KM]

To be fair, that draw is bit of a joke.

 

[SteveJ]

One of the CE lot will be along in a minute to blame the last government for Chelsea's easy draws.

 

[rcoobc]

I'm sure you thought our double in 1994 was a shit achievement too.

Sheffield United, Norwich, Wimbledon, Charlton, Oldham and Chelsea.

Oh no 5 Premier League teams. Even if it was poorer than others, 1996 and 1999 make up for it:

1996: Sunderland (Division One (first)), Reading (Division One), Manchester City (Premier League), Southampton (Premier League), Chelsea (Premier League), Liverpool (Premier League, 3rd).

4 Premier League teams, 2 rivals and 3rd place.

1999: Middlesbrough (Premier League), Liverpool (Premier League), Fulham (Division 2), Chelsea (Premier League, 3rd), Arsenal (Premier League, 2nd), Newcastle (Premier League)

5 Premier League, 1 rival, 2nd and 3rd place teams.

 

[rcoobc]

Looking at it, I don't think Chelsea have played a top 6 team in those rounds in 7 years. Tottenham where 8th when they played them. English Premier League 2006-2007 Table - statto.com

 

[Team Brian GB]

And in the previous five years we played Liverpool and Arsenal three times, get over it.

 

[rcoobc]

And in the previous five years we played Liverpool and Arsenal three times, get over it.

Sorry TB just one of those things. I want the FA Cup to be almost as hard and valuable as the Premier League, it's not Chelsea's fault but it still saddens me.

 

[Mockney]

The FA Cup should never be seeded. You get what you get, you shouldn't try and manufacture it.

 

[Team Brian GB]

As I say, after winning the FA Cup in 2000 we played Man United, Arsenal, Arsenal, Arsenal in successive years - when Arsenal was at their early 2000s peak.

I cannot recall Man United fans complaining then.

 

[rcoobc]

The FA Cup should never be seeded. You get what you get, you shouldn't try and manufacture it.

"Half" the people on here don't even care about it anymore. The Copa Del Rey has never looked stronger, with Barcelona and Real Madrid looking almost guaranteed to produce a 2 legged game juggernaut, or a epic final against each other annually. Yet the FA Cup is meant to be many times more important, and Championship teams don't care.

You're right we shouldn't feck about it with it, as bsc would say, but it's value is disappearing.

 

[Mockney]

I don't really want an FA Cup where the top two teams in the country fight it out in the final every single year. I actually quite like the fact that Portsmouth won it a few years back. If it was that easy to win/not important, how come we've struggled in it for 5 or so years now whilst striding through the Carling pretty much every year?

I'd love to win the FA Cup, but yeah it's the 3rd priority for most big teams. There's not much you can do about it, it's not the format's fault, it's just that the money/promotion, or the CL are more important to the modern team.

 

[rcoobc]

Heart break.
2011 - City FA Cup Semi. Possible Treble when we lost, failed to stop City.
2010 - Leeds United. Old Rival, and poor performance.
2009 - Everton on Penalties. Possible Quadruple when we lost. Semi final.
2008 - Portsmouth Quarter Final. Possible Treble when we lost. Battered them for 90 minutes.
2007 - Chelsea in extra time in the final. Let Chelsea become the first team to win the FA Cup at new Wembley as well as the last at old.
2006 - Liverpool Quarter Final. Alan Smith's leg break (I think).
2005 - Arsenal Final. Battered them for 120 minutes, lost on penalties.

Personally I think its a curse because we missed the 2000 FA Cup, it just didn't kick in for 5 years.

I really don't know why we have done so badly, we've often fallen at the last hurdle or to a rival. 2 Finals, 2 Semi's, 2 Quarters, and 2 rival defeats isn't exactly a bad record. It's just heart breaking.

 

[Carl]

Yeh it's fortunate but that's cup competitions for you.

 

[Grinner]

What an embarrassing, bitter thread.

 

[rcoobc]

What an embarrassing, bitter thread.

I am 100% bitter. Don't think Pexbo is.

 

[Plan M]

What an embarrassing, bitter thread.

Agreed.

And the FA Cup needs to go back to the BBC, I hate the ITV coverage of our famous old trophy.

And I still get very excited about the competition and I know many other people who do. The Champions League seems to be the be all and end all for many football supporters these days. The cup is a welcome challenge for those people who follow the smaller clubs and relish the opportunity of maybe seeing their team play at Old Trafford or Anfield one day.

 

[MrMarcello]

Mockney - the same Portsmouth that knocked off United due to the incompetence of officiating? The same Portsmouth that later went into administration?

How great on them to win the cup when they should have been eliminated much earlier and overspent in a ridiculous attempt to compete with the top clubs.

I rooted for Cardiff.

 

[Denis' cuff]

What an embarrassing, bitter thread.

a bummer over-reacting - who'd've thought it?

 

[Pexbo]

What an embarrassing, bitter thread.

What's there to be bitter about? I was just saying that they have had a massive rub of the green. I didn't say it was down to a fix or anything daft. It's a massive coincidence and I thought it worthy pointing out.

 

[Mockney]

Mockney - the same Portsmouth that knocked off United due to the incompetence of officiating? The same Portsmouth that later went into administration?

How great on them to win the cup when they should have been eliminated much earlier and overspent in a ridiculous attempt to compete with the top clubs.

I rooted for Cardiff.

Not specifically Pompy. A little side/underdog. The Cup can't win. Big sides in big finals? The rich, elite teams ruining the competition. Small sides in small finals? Boring and devalued cos the big boys don't take it seriously.

Clubs other than the usual should win things occasionally. The FA Cup is, technically, the best chance they've got.

 

[MrMarcello]

I can agree on that. Except when small clubs win the lottery and float hundreds of millions of dollars in a very short span.

I'd be in favor of the PL clubs being excluded from the CC (or at least those in European cup play) so the lower levels have a better chance at winning something of note. But that won't happen as it would devalue the CC in regards to sponsorship and televising rights.

 

[Mockney]

I generally care very little about the CC to be honest. I wouldn't bat an eyelid if we pulled out of it. I can however see the huge value of it as a blooding ground for players, but still, my feelings towards it are completely "meh" all the way up to the final.

Sugar daddy clubs should automatically be considered elite and should never win anything ever.

 

[rcoobc]

I can agree on that. Except when small clubs win the lottery and float hundreds of millions of dollars in a very short span.

I'd be in favor of the PL clubs being excluded from the CC (or at least those in European cup play) so the lower levels have a better chance at winning something of note. But that won't happen as it would devalue the CC in regards to sponsorship and televising rights.

What would you rather do with those midweeks? Most leagues play league games there and have a winter break, is that what you would prefer?

 

[Devilton]

We shouldn't gripe about other teams...we've had easy draws for years in the Champions league.

 

[Cling Bak]

The FA Cup should never be seeded. You get what you get, you shouldn't try and manufacture it.

I wholeheartedly agree, as much as Chelsea's draws annoy me and that they're the worst double winners ever.

 

[Northstand]

What's there to be bitter about? I was just saying that they have had a massive rub of the green. I didn't say it was down to a fix or anything daft. It's a massive coincidence and I thought it worthy pointing out.

You're right, there's nothing to be bitter about and Chelsea's extraordinary run of luck in the FA Cup draws was worth pointing out. By way of comparison, United have drawn premier league opponents in 13 of the last 16 third round ties, which is also statistically unlikely.

 

[Jopub]

We shouldn't gripe about other teams...we've had easy draws for years in the Champions league.

(but you should'nt mention that!)

 

[Pexbo]

We shouldn't gripe about other teams...we've had easy draws for years in the Champions league.

Thats actually a little different in that it's seeded, so we won't get the top teams in our group, and then we have done well to win the groups so have had a favorable draw in the first knockout.

2007 we got Lille, Roma and Milan. Hardly favorable.

2008 we got Lyon, Roma, Barca and Chelsea. Favorable?

2009.... Inter, Porto, Arsenal and Barca.....

2010..... Milan and Munich.

2011.... Marsaille, Chelsea, Shalke and Barca Probably our easiest year.


I wouldn't say that we have had it favorable at all really. Last year was perhaps a bit easier but with the seeding and the fact we can't draw english teams, getting anything other than a "favorable" group stage is very very unlikely.

 

[Orton]

Champions league is hardly comparable since it uses a seeded system which makes it easier for the top teams. Look at all the other groups from the top teams over the years.

 

[wr8_utd]

Say this every year and I'm sure I'll be saying this next year as well but the FA Cup is basically handed to Chelsea every year.

Their draws are a joke.

 

[Wonder Pigeon]

Conspiracy.

 

[Plan M]

It's not Chelsea's fault that their handed easy draws though, is it?

And we've got to worry about ourselves. We let Leeds and Portsmouth knock us out in recent seasons - nothing "difficult" about them home ties on paper but we still managed to feck it up.

You can only play (and try to beat) the team that's put in front of you.

 

[rcoobc]

* Separately to that, I am going to one day think about having a long look at Chelsea's cup draws of the last decade. Is it me, or are they nearly always at home and usually against lower league opposition? (I've asked around. It's not me. They are nearly always at home, and usually against lower league opposition).

12.42: You've got a point about Chelsea's cup draws. It seems Manchester United draw Premier league teams virtually every round in the FA Cup. Liverpool and Arsenal get pretty hard draws too a lot of the time. Chelsea seem to get easy games most years.
Alan, Birmingham

People are picking up on it.

 

[Crustanoid]

'feck - we're so shit even our fixed draws can't get us past Birmingham..... I need to pay the FA more money'