Would you be satisfied if we only won the league?

Of course the league is priority. We really are spoiled when we have to question that! Imagine being a Liverpool or an Arsenal right now, all they dream about is the league. Just because we win it so often we can't ever forget how lucky we are to see so much success as supporters.

At the same time I am desperate to beat Madrid. To be 12 points clear at the top in England and Madrid 16 points (I think) away from the top in Spain we need to beat them to keep the pride in the premier league especially after City and Chelsea embarrassing themselves. If we beat Madrid, regardless of how much further we go, and win the league I would be delighted
 
If offered the PL at the start of the season, I'd have said yes. But now, no - I'd prefer to roll the dice, take the small risk of finishing with nothing, and hope for a double or a treble.
 
I don't like it when our own supporters think we can't win the CL.

We are a home win away from knocking out the tournaments second favorite team, not to mention the reigning Spanish Champions. And a team that nobody gave us a shot against. Ray Wilkins, who seems to hate us, said we had 0 chance of getting past Madrid.

We can win the CL. And if I were guessing, I'd say we will.
 
Definitely. This is clearly a team in transition and is playing at nowhere near it's full potential. Winning a league whilst we're in the midst of replacing our most recent great goalkeeper, possibly our greatest ever defence and two of our greatest ever players in general would be an amazing achievement.
 
Of course I'd be satisfied. The number of people saying no is all the evidence you ever need of how spoiled our fans are. getting the league back would be a massive, and hugely important achievement, and we're nowhere near winning either of the other two yet.

Considering we have 4 more matches to win, I'd give us a one in three or one in four chance of winning the cup. Champions League I'd say around one in eight or worse. So I'd say it's more likely than not that we'll win neither.

Although it does of course remain on like Donkey Kong, people getting excited about the treble should bare these odds in mind. Even at 1 in 3 for the FA Cup and 1 in 8 for the ECL, that's 1 in 24 for both, and that's before you add in that we haven't got the league wrapped up yet.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
We can win the CL. And if I were guessing, I'd say we will.
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Of course we can, but to say we will is just stupid.

Even if we were clearly the best team, we would be more likely to not win the Champions League than to win it, after one leg of the round of 16.

It's basic probability. This is why Barca are only 2/1 to win it and we are 9/1.
 
Will Absolute said:
If offered the PL at the start of the season, I'd have said yes. But now, no - I'd prefer to roll the dice, take the small risk of finishing with nothing, and hope for a double or a treble.
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Insane.

You'd risk us undergoing the biggest collapse in memory to hand City a 2nd consecutive title so that we can get into the lottery of a couple of cup competitions?

I'm desperate for an FA Cup victory, and would love us to get within 1 European cup of the dippers, but the one thing we absolutely definitely totally have to do from our current position is close out the league. If we don't do that, we may as well cancel football for the next decade and just give City 10 more league titles. I'm not sure I'd be able to bear to watch a single ball being kicked until about 2025 anyway.
 
Plechazunga said:
"If I were guessing, I'd say we will win it" is a very interesting sentence semantically.
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True ***.:lol:

I demand to know what LCB would say in the following scenarios:

1. If he were making a calculated estimate.
2. If he were omniscient and just telling us what actually happens (note: Please us spoiler tags for this one).
3. If he were tripping his tits off with some guy he thought was Emmanuel Eboue but was actually just a taxi driver from Hull.
 
To be fair to LCB I think he's put it together about right to get across what he's trying to - giving a counterfactual in which he's making a prediction about the future of both that parallel world and this one in which he isn't making a prediction.

You could actually use that sentence quite well to illustrate the lack of a future tense in English. A construction with 'will' isn't a true tense, and it denotes strong prediction rather than a statement of what the future holds. (And his sentence actually contains two constructions with 'will', one the past tense 'would' used conditionally.)

For your omniscient one you really need the present tense, as in 'On 25th May at Wembley we win the Champions League'.

I'll shut up about this now in case sincher's looking.
 
I'd be very satisfied, because I know for a fact we will never win the FA Cup again because it has put a curse on us. Look out for the heartbreaking Semi or Final defeat to city this year. Champions League is like a luxury.
 
Plechazunga said:
To be fair to LCB I think he's put it together about right to get across what he's trying to - giving a counterfactual in which he's making a prediction about the future of both that parallel world and this one in which he isn't making a prediction.

You could actually use that sentence quite well to illustrate the lack of a future tense in English. A construction with 'will' isn't a true tense, and it denotes strong prediction rather than a statement of what the future holds.

For your omniscient one you really need the present tense, as in 'On 25th May at Wembley we win the Champions League'.

I'll shut up about this now in case sincher's looking.
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I hate you so much I can hardly breathe.
 
This Saturday we all hate Plechazunga so much we all asphyxiate ourselves.
 
I'd take the league every time if you asked me at the start of the season. The CL and anything else are all just a massive bonus. Your home territory is your priority dominate there and move forward from there.
 
Sir A1ex said:
Of course we can, but to say we will is just stupid.

Even if we were clearly the best team, we would be more likely to not win the Champions League than to win it, after one leg of the round of 16.

It's basic probability. This is why Barca are only 2/1 to win it and we are 9/1.
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No, you're over-analyzing. I'm just saying that United would be my prediction.
 
Sir A1ex said:
True ***.:lol:

I demand to know what LCB would say in the following scenarios:

1. If he were making a calculated estimate.
2. If he were omniscient and just telling us what actually happens (note: Please us spoiler tags for this one).
3. If he were tripping his tits off with some guy he thought was Emmanuel Eboue but was actually just a taxi driver from Hull.
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I'd say that you should check if your Mum and Dad are also Brother and Sister...

Plechazunga said:
To be fair to LCB I think he's put it together about right to get across what he's trying to - giving a counterfactual in which he's making a prediction about the future of both that parallel world and this one in which he isn't making a prediction.

You could actually use that sentence quite well to illustrate the lack of a future tense in English. A construction with 'will' isn't a true tense, and it denotes strong prediction rather than a statement of what the future holds. (And his sentence actually contains two constructions with 'will', one the past tense 'would' used conditionally.)

For your omniscient one you really need the present tense, as in 'On 25th May at Wembley we win the Champions League'.

I'll shut up about this now in case sincher's looking.
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... And that you really need to get laid even if it is your Sister.
 
The league is the priority this season and you have to be happy if we win that, I certainly never expected anything more than that at the start of the season. I do just have a sneaky feeling we will pick up the league and a second trophy though, not sure why.
 
More than happy how the season has went. 12 points clear I'd be delighted if we win the league title back, any cups a bonus really. But also been very happy happy with the development of the younger members of the squad especially Rafael and DDG for me this and the league has been the highlight of the season for me.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
I don't like it when our own supporters think we can't win the CL.

We are a home win away from knocking out the tournaments second favorite team, not to mention the reigning Spanish Champions. And a team that nobody gave us a shot against. Ray Wilkins, who seems to hate us, said we had 0 chance of getting past Madrid.

We can win the CL. And if I were guessing, I'd say we will.
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Not sure why he is so bitter but he annoys me no end with his Chelsea stuff.
 
Hell no. Like I said before, a team of our stature needs to have won the Champions League more often and we have to be at least in the semi finals pretty much every year to try and justify our position as one of Europe's elite.
 
RDCR07 said:
Hell no. Like I said before, a team of our stature needs to have won the Champions League more often and we have to be at least in the semi finals pretty much every year to try and justify our position as one of Europe's elite.
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In the last fourteen years nobody has been in more CL finals than United and only Barca have won more. And, if you're going to complain about my selectivity, we've also been in three of the last five finals and nobody else can say that. So explain to me again this idea that we have to justify our position in Europe's elite.
 
I'd be delighted with just the league. feck the other tin pots. Over commercialised distractions is what they are.

The league is what really counts.

It sounds ridiculous, even to me but I can't help thinking that the premier league is the hardest club competition to win, in the world.
 
The Don said:
I'd be delighted with just the league. feck the other tin pots. Over commercialised distractions is what they are.

The league is what really counts.

It sounds ridiculous, even to me but I can't help thinking that the premier league is the hardest club competition to win, in the world.
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Agreed. Liverpool are living proof of this.
 
Invest the question and ask 'which of the three would you be most disappointed not to win' ?
 
I'd be very happy with just the League. The FA Cup would make me happier still and it would be cock out time if we won the CL again.

That said I very much doubt that we have the midfield to win the CL this year.
 
ravelston said:
In the last fourteen years nobody has been in more CL finals than United and only Barca have won more. And, if you're going to complain about my selectivity, we've also been in three of the last five finals and nobody else can say that. So explain to me again this idea that we have to justify our position in Europe's elite.
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I meant in terms of winning the Champions League itself. All the elite teams like Barca, Milan, Bayern and Real have more and hell even Liverpool and Ajax have more than us. We need to be up there with them in terms of trophies won is what I meant. Plus I want Ferguson to win one more before he retires.
 
Raoul said:
Invest the question and ask 'which of the three would you be most disappointed not to win' ?
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That is a much better question. But in terms of this year right? Then it has to be the league given the current position we are in.
 
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