Media didn't take pot shots at us back then?
We are everyone's favorite enemy all the time.
Anthony Martial
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We are everyone's favorite enemy all the time.
You are scaring me mate. Especially considering that at the very least 2 players in out team have openly said that LVG is very "strict". And i heard that fall out of Victor Valdes with LVG was only because he didnt play enough reserve team games. I thought the only reason y we didn't (ever) go for Zlatan was his behavior.
And then you are buying a guy who is 19 and has severe attitude problems and probably is overpriced as well.
Hmmm, I didn't know of that quote and I remember we were interested in him anyway. Still if you see the quote you posted we were planning to go for him in January because of injury and SAF says that had Newcastle not bid he would still be at Everton. At Everton, not Newcastle, so he was not worried about Rooney going to Newcastle. All said, if somebody forced our hand, it classifies as panic buy. So even with what you are saying, it is still a panic buy.
I am aware of Newcastle back then. They were far better than now but not exactly a team realistically worrying us for top targets. Chelsea had started to get bigger by then and we knew it would be matter of time before they become big. This was not the case with Newcastle even then.
We have spent £405m in the last 5 years, and we are still behind Chelsea and City in the spending stakes. 50m is a lot for this guy as he is an unknown entity and I would rather we buy a recognised striker and Martial. As Lacazette he isn't leaving as he has signed a new contract and with Fekir I wouldn't mind him coming but I don't see it happening.
Martial while raw could become a stroke of genius if given the right amount of game time and coaching. We need a new winger to provide assists and a new goalkeeper to stop the ball rolling into the net, ala Gomis goal. Keylor Navas as a swap for DDG would be good, just a straight swap as right now we are desperate and I don't see LVG playing DDG the rest of the season if he stays, such is his arrogance.
Don't waste your time mate.
LVG will play DDG. He is not that arrogant or stupid.
Why do people want this guy?
He's not a particularily good goal scorer and right now we need an established goal scorer not someone that might come good in a few years.
Id rather us sign Charlie Austin at this point at least he can guarantee to score goals. There's no telling what an inexperienced foreign player that hasn't actually scored many goals will do. Especially for the price that's been mentioned.
He's not a particularily good goal scorer and right now we need an established goal scorer not someone that might come good in a few years.
Id rather us sign Charlie Austin at this point at least he can guarantee to score goals. There's no telling what an inexperienced foreign player that hasn't actually scored many goals will do. Especially for the price that's been mentioned.
He is probably a player we bookmarked for the future we just decided to move for him a bit earlier.
But the bridges between them may be severely fractured, especially with LVg's comments about DDG refusing to play, which the DDG camp have vehemently denied...This is just one big mess..
We felt bullet proof because of Fergie. Plus the way we brought players were also not this much trouble. Post fergie, every transfer window, we seem to have lost someone and then the whole world seems to laugh at our stupidity. Bids for Neymar, Muller? How do such things even end up in the paper?
This transfer windows started well, but DDG, Otamendi, Pedro mess ruined everything and add Rooney's incompetence to it and we are a bigger mess. LVG walking out of the press conference is evidence enough that he too is feeling the heat. Things are not going well for United.
Hes selling Hernandez and leaving us with Rooney and then buying Martial who has scored 11 career goals. Say what you want but it sounds arrogant and stupid all in one go. We should have signed Pedro for the RW and didn't and we should have got another striker in 6 weeks ago when RVP and Falcao left.
Maybe it's just me - but we have actually underpaid for most of our signings this summer - we have a negative net spend. Why do people care if we pay well over the odds for a couple of players - knowing it's a drop in the ocean of what we have available ?
Just get the necessary players in before it's too late. If that means paying €20 million more than Martial is worth - WHO CARES ? That is peanuts compared to not reaching the CL
Just get the necessary players in before it's too late. If that means paying €20 million more than Martial is worth - WHO CARES ? That is peanuts compared to not reaching the CL
How do things end up in the paper? Sometimes it's just made up.
We did have troubles with bringing players before you know. It's that why our midfield was neglected or we didn't get Hazard for instance.
Also when did LVG walk out of the press conference, I missed that?
We sold Hernandez, we bought Martial?
We should have got a striker, that's true, but believe me LVG will play DDG if he stays.
LVG, and our club (in Woody), are showing that they are arrogant and stupid in the last windows.
Playing Romero and keeping DD on the stands instead of fixing the issue even if we loose money.
Playing Blind next to Smalling because we tought we could bring Ramos there
Refusing Pedro, who score one and gave an assist in his first two games
Selling RVP and buying 50M (50 FU***** MILLIONS) on a 19 year old kid who is not special at all
That's stupidity because LVG said that he wanted ALL his players on the US Tour, and it's arrogant to splash the cash trying to solve issues you created
Playing Romero and keeping DD on the stands instead of fixing the issue even if we loose money.
Playing Blind next to Smalling because we tought we could bring Ramos there
Refusing Pedro, who score one and gave an assist in his first two games
Selling RVP and buying 50M (50 FU***** MILLIONS) on a 19 year old kid who is not special at all
That's stupidity because LVG said that he wanted ALL his players on the US Tour, and it's arrogant to splash the cash trying to solve issues you created
Of course not. It's just before yesterday we probably weren't desperate enough to pay €50m+ for an unproven teenager.
THere was an article about DDG expecting to get nr. 1 position if he stays and maybe that relationship isn't that bad, it's maybe media assumption or Marca lies.
Screw it why don't we offer them £100m + Rojo + Woodward + can of Boddington + portion of chips'n'curry. That'll confuse them.
While i agree Martial will not be the difference between reaching and not reachong the CL.
He is young, very raw and not a great finisher. He would be one for the future, atm we have better options than him in our first 11.
Witchking is in full meltdown mode and facts are of no consequence. Hekeeps stating how embarassing this all is so mind his feelings dude.
Personally I'm loving the irony of those accusing United of being in a panic also calling for us to get rid of the manager
I think there is a level of arrogance involved but mostly I think we're just naive. Everyone can see we can't get Bale, or Muller, or any of these other players at Bayern, Barca, Real etc. unless they want to sell them. We seem to think because we have lots of money we can get these world stars but forget that these other clubs all have tons of cash as well and currently are much more successful on the pitch.
We've wasted so much time thinking we can just offer 100-150m for whatever player we want but it doesn't work like that.
for people panicking about the 36m£ pricetag, how exactly is that different from buying an 18 year old rooney for 30m£ 10 years ago? he's considered one of the biggest talents in france.
Did hazard not coming stop us from winning the league? If they are made up, you think they would need to get squashed by the players? I understand what you are trying to say and you say we must have done our homework on this guy and i say that we are panic buying, we both do not know what happened behind the scenes but right now from the way it looks, on the last day of the transfer window, ready to buy a 19 year old unproven guy from a low quality league(compared to the premier league) for 50 million euros should be considered as a panic buy.
It's just that such buys should not be a case for a club like United. The news started the moment we lost the game coincidence?
But you cant use one article to confirm that he is expecting to stay and be no,1 ...then when another article has a completely different view to that, you only consider it as lies..thats merely a confirmation bias , whats the difference between the two, both are articles which neither can be substantiated....Its likely that the fact that DDG had his professionalism questioned will not have gone down well with him.
We won the league but it's not like everything was rozy back then regarding our transfers. That's all I'm saying.
Well that's true, 2 opposite articles you choose which one you want to believe.
Don't know this guy at all (apart from looking at buying him on FM once) but I like the idea of buying a (seemingly) talented 19 year old as our number 1 striker backup. Rooney seems undroppable no matter what he does but a young guy could develop well behind him (And I haven't seen anything from Wilson that tells me he could be that guy). Can Martial play any other positions?
There's nothing that excites me about this deal.
Rooney had a good Euro 2004 and plus English tax.
He's more expensive than Hazard, who was French player of the year and helped his team win the title.
Rooney cost £25m in the end, he was an England international and had experience of the PL. Martial doesn't tick any of those boxes.
Absolutely not ! He's not considered at all in France. He's been called with the A because Lacazette is injured, because Gignac is in Mexico
Rooney exploded at Euro 2004 with his national team before and even played a season with Everton.
Martial played 2 seasons at Monaco, and is only a starter since last January....
36M£ for 6 good months `????
Sold Di Maria for 63Meuros and buy Martial for 55M euros
That's great
Its a process
I simply refused to believe that the club will be so stupid to sanction this
Because it's just so symptomatic. The whole world can see that we need another striker, but what do we do? Wait until the last day of the transfer window, when we are already four games into the season, and overpay for an unproved player.
But is it true that thee version you choose to believe may not be the right version? And just from what has happened, isnt it reasonable to believe that LVG and DDG'S relationship will likely be affected?
Staly do their business better
Witchking is in full meltdown mode and facts are of no consequence. Hekeeps stating how embarassing this all is so mind his feelings dude.
Personally I'm loving the irony of those accusing United of being in a panic also calling for us to get rid of the manager
What facts are being stated? Facts
If the numbers quoted were for a top striker who is established I wouldnt mind but that much for a kid who has yet to prove himself? Madness.
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