Supporters that dont want Mourinho: What will he have to do to win you over?

[Green_Red]

Personally, I am not in love with the idea that Mourinho will be in charge of United and for a number of reasons. But if reports are true it is looking more and more likely that he will be here next season.

I've asked myself, given his record what will have to happen for me to warm to him. It would be very hard to continue to have a negative opinion of him if he brings success.

I want to see him continue to give youth players a chance. Challenging for the PL and CL would obviously be hard to ignore too.

What will he have to do to win you over?

 

[Akshay]

If he gets results with senior players and doesn't want to play youth he deems not good enough, I can deal with that. If he wants to put ten men behind the ball against better teams (there are a lot of those right now), then fine.

But just, stop being a complete jackass. He's got a history of doing at least one very shitty thing a year and I'd like it to end if he comes here. No Eva type scandals, no poking eyes, no alleging drug abuse, and no voyeur style comments. Get us back challenging for titles and I'll be a happy man. Not a very high bar but that's about all we can afford right now.

 

[Pexbo]

Win the league. It's as simple as that and anyone who says it isn't is kidding themselves.

We're in a tough place right now, dire football and an unacceptable position in the league with an unacceptable exit from the Champions League an unacceptable exit from the League Cup, an unacceptable first leg in the Europa League and who knows what will happen tomorrow.


If Mourinho comes in and brings back winning ways, you can't overestimate how good that will feel. It's 3 years in the wilderness now and inconsistency has become standard. To see United winning game after game again, rebuilding fortress Old Trafford and getting under the noses of opposition fans will be a welcome return to habits of old.

 

[lysglimt]

Mourinho will improve us - probably a lot. But within 3 years, I except another meltdown. That is why I prefer someone else - even if I naturally prefer Mourinho to LvG

 

[sullydnl]

I do want him but only reluctantly. If there were better options available....

Two things I'd like to see Mourinho do to quell my worries: 1) Be very successful. 2) Behave like less of an asshole.

I think he'd do the first, I can't imagine he'd do the second. So if he gets appointed I think I'll mostly be okay with it as long as we don't actually back him when/if he does anything on par with the eye gouging or Eva Carneiro stuff. I'll always be worried his confrontational approach will see his time here come to a premature end though.

 

[khoazany]

Nothing.He rightfully has his own way and some people didn't get on with that, including me.

 

[sullydnl]

Nothing.He rightfully has his own way and some people didn't get on with that, including me.

Really nothing? As in even if he brought us a slew of PL and CL titles you'd still be unhappy to have him as manager?

 

[Rednotdead]

What will he have to do? Something he's never done anywhere - stay 3 years.

 

[buckooo1978]

conduct himself with a bit of dignity and respect the club

Mourinho is human and makes mistakes but the two things that define him are winning and being an absolute ballbag

 

[ZupZup]

Win and play decent entertaining football. It's as simple as that. The same way I would judge any United manager. If he set up more defensively and played 'boring' against the likes of Barcelona, I'd understand.

Until he's been given a chance, I'd reserve judgement.

 

[Barca84]

conduct himself with a bit of dignity and respect the club

Mourinho is human and makes mistakes but the two things that define him are winning and being an absolute ballbag

This 100%

I'd have it clearly spelled out in any contract:

• he will be given whatever funds necessary
• within 3 years he will be expected to win the league and challenge for the ECL at the very least. No less.
• how he is expected to behave as an employee
• he will be booted out for gross misconduct if he can't

 

[Insanity]

He is douche-bag and d-bag's don't stop being d-bags one fine morning because they got the United job. Let's not delude ourselves into thinking that Jose is going to change his ways or will suddenly become the champion of youth just because it's the "United way" or whatever. His philosophy is win at all costs and he'll do exactly that, especially with his best pal Pep in-charge at City.

Will he act like a tit? Yes
Will he act like a dick and be disrespectful toward other managers? Yes
Will he fall out with people within the club? Most likely

The hope is that he'll prevent this free fall that the club is in at moment, win a trophy or two and leave a squad that can compete long after he is gone. We can't escape the managerial go around anymore; without Fergie, we are like every other big club.

 

[Moonred]

I can live with his fanny antics as long as we are winning. So he doesn't have to do anything apart from getting results. And putting clauses in his contract? Like he is going to agree with any of that.

 

[sammsky1]

He does not have to win me over.... I've been desperate he take over since the day SAF announced his retirement.

He simply needs to make us win trophies again with a degree of dominnace. That in turn will ensure plenty of goals and excitement from high quality players.

I don't get the 'cut out the jackass' rhetoric. SAF's years were riddled with self righteous scandal but he was our jackass and I loved him for it.

 

[sullydnl]

He is douche-bag and d-bag's don't stop being d-bags one fine morning because they got the United job. Let's not delude ourselves into thinking that Jose is going to change his ways or will suddenly become the champion of youth just because it's the "United way" or whatever. His philosophy is win at all costs and he'll do exactly that, especially with his best pal Pep in-charge at City.

Will he act like a tit? Yes
Will he act like a dick and be disrespectful toward other managers? Yes
Will he fall out with people within the club? Most likely

The hope is that he'll prevent this free fall that the club is in at moment, win a trophy or two and leave a squad that can compete long after he is gone. We can't escape the managerial go around anymore; without Fergie, we are like every other big club.

Maybe we'll prove to be harder to fall out with than his previous clubs? Given we're both desperate and geared towards a dictatorial manager it might not be as easy to piss us off to the point where we sack him...?

 

[crossy1686]

He is douche-bag and d-bag's don't stop being d-bags one fine morning because they got the United job. Let's not delude ourselves into thinking that Jose is going to change his ways or will suddenly become the champion of youth just because it's the "United way" or whatever. His philosophy is win at all costs and he'll do exactly that, especially with his best pal Pep in-charge at City.

Will he act like a tit? Yes
Will he act like a dick and be disrespectful toward other managers? Yes
Will he fall out with people within the club? Most likely

The hope is that he'll prevent this free fall that the club is in at moment, win a trophy or two and leave a squad that can compete long after he is gone. We can't escape the managerial go around anymore; without Fergie, we are like every other big club.

Sounds like SAF!

 

[Barca84]

I can live with his fanny antics as long as we are winning. So he doesn't have to do anything apart from getting results. And putting clauses in his contract? Like he is going to agree with any of that.

Everybody has clauses in their contract of employment regarding behaviour. Everybody.

And Jose wants this job desperately.

 

[Man-United]

Is winning the most important about supporting United?

 

[sullydnl]

He does not have to win me over.... I've been desperate he take over since the day SAF announced his retirement.

He simply needs to make us win trophies again with a degree of dominnace. That in turn will ensure plenty of goals and excitement from high quality players.

I don't get the 'cut out the jackass' rhetoric. SAF's years were riddled with self righteous scandal but he was our jackass and I loved him for it.

A) I loved SAF but that doesn't mean his behaviour was always okay either. His plus points just outweighed his negatives to such a ridiculous degree that it stopped being any sort of issue.

B) Mourinho behaves worse than SAF did without being as good a manager, so it is more of an issue for him.

 

[Mrs Smoker]

What can change the nature of a man?

 

[Moonred]

Everybody has clauses in their contract of employment regarding behaviour. Everybody.

And Jose wants this job desperately.

We need him equally. He probably sits in a better position tbf. Point taken about complete bad behavior (however you define that in the clause is vague). But he isn't going to accept rigid rules and neither would we as a club put something like that.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

Have to admit something doesn't feel right about it, and it would be good if we at least looked at Pochettino, Conte, Simeone, etc, but for fear of us messing the whole thing up and ending up with Giggs, or worse still keeping LvG, then it's maybe best we go for Jose whilst we can.

 

[Q80]

How about asking yourself "who else is on the list?"

Conte, Simeone? Judging from our handling of transfer issues recently, chances of botching them up are quite high. So who are we left with?

Ryan Giggs? So how is that LESS of a gamble than Mourinho?

 

[Sad Chris]

Is winning the most important about supporting United?

As football is a competition: yes
I always play to win, never just for the fun of it.

 

[anant]

No reports of Man utd except related to our match, i.e no controversies.
Good positive football
Giving youth a chance especially Januzaj, Pereira and Wilson
Resignation after 2 years. Don't want to see that 3rd year where he basically undoes the good work of his first 2 years

 

[Insanity]

Maybe we'll prove to be harder to fall out with than his previous clubs? Given we're both desperate and geared towards a dictatorial manager it might not be as easy to piss us off to the point where we sack him...?

I'll keep my fingers crossed for that. Though, his record so far suggests that he creates situations that eventually leads to things going tits up.

Also, I was talking more in terms of the OP, where he is asking what will lead people to change their minds on Jose. If someone is not a fan of his antics or wants him to change his ways to the "United way", then I am afraid they are going to be disappointed.

I am not a fan of him, but do think he is the necessary evil at this stage.

 

[sullydnl]

Is winning the most important about supporting United?

No.

Wanting the best for United is though and winning is a massive part of that.

 

[Ole's_toe_poke]

Get his tits out for the lads.

 

[GloryHunter07]

Some kind of contractual targets to develop youngsters. Also an unbreakable vow not to poke people in the eye or treat the club staff like shit.

 

[BAMSOLA]

Behave like less of a retard, and not to make everything about him.

I've got absolutely no problem with the football his sides play, I even admire it and I can say I enjoyed watching Chelsea play during the early 2000's. However his attitude has to change including his gigantic persecution complex.

I share some of Sir Bobby's reservations as I think he has a classless streak running through him, however he is a phenomenal manager when it comes to the football side there is no disguising that.

If he comes I hope there is a clear understanding of exactly which parts of his behavior he has to leave behind and I hope that understanding is contractually enforced.

 

[Bojan11]

The comments about Eva are overboard. I can understand the eye gouging incident.

But Guardiola had run ins with the Bayern medical team yet nobody says anything about that. Fergie had a problem with Mike Stone because he deemed Rooney fit enough to play in the World Cup.

 

[Physiocrat]

I don't think he can for me as his character has sinister overtones which he's unlikely to change. SAF acted up on occasions but Mourinho has that dark aspect to him. That said if he didn't have as much of a safety first approach to football I wouldn't mind as much but again he's not going to change that.

 

[Red_toad]

I gave up caring about what everyone wants on redcaf a long time ago. Seeing posters slate Sir Alex as he was too old & had outdated thoughts & coaching about the game.
Now we're looking at our 3rd manager since he retired & so much crap being posted about all the candidates.
For me whoever gets it, if they make United a force again & a team to be feared. They will have my 100% support.

 

[do.ob]

Conduct himself in a more professional manner and present a philosophy.

 

[MoBeats]

I would want an epic introductional love in, a la Evra, the king of all cnuts.
Then I would want him to change everything about his managerial style. To be less confrontational, to keep his shit in house and to adopt an attacking style of football.
Then he might win me over.

 

[Judge Red]

Behaviour I approve of:

Poking rivals in the eye

Behaviour I don't approve of:

Misogyny

 

[kps88]

He can do whatever he wants as long as he's winning trophies. Similar to when Ronaldo was unpopular when he was trying to force through a move to Madrid. When asked if he was worried about the fan reaction he said something like "the fans will forget everything after I score a few goals". Everyone was fuming at the time but he proved to be right. It's next to impossible to hate a player/manager when he's directly contributing to your club winning trophies.

 

[Stack]

Play attractive football. Simple.

 

[Sigma]

I don't mind most of his behaviour, quite funny at times.

 

[devilish]

@Green_Red who would you like as manager? (Kindly be realistic ie no pep or Ancellotti at this point )