ODI Cricket Draft: KM vs PaulScholes

[Akshay]

Welcome to Day 2 of the ODI snake draft round of 16. Some basic rules to consider while voting:

1) Judge players only on the basis of their ODI records.
2) Base your vote on which team you think is more likely to win an ODI between the two.
3) The ground for the match serves only as a representative of the overall playing conditions of its country.
4) The poll will remain open for 24 hours after creation.

KM has won the toss and has chosen to bat first at the Melbourne Cricket Ground.

The XIs:

KM: 1. Watson 2. Dhawan 3. Root 4. Da Silva 5. Matthews 6. Buttler 7. Russell 8. Prabhakar 9. Donald 10. Gillespie 11. Ajmal

PaulScholes: 1. Rohit Sharma 2. Sehwag 3. Sangakarra 4. Faf du Plessis 5. Eoin Morgan 6. Kieron Pollard 7. James Faulkner 8. AJ Hall 9. Holding 10. Mendis 11. Rackemann

 

[Akshay]

KM:

Why I’ll win:

1) Explosive openers: While there’s a perception that both my openers are unreliable players, the stats say for themselves. Both of them has an average of over 40 and very good strike rate. If even of them get set, that means game over for the opposing team.

2) Solid Middle Order: Root, De Silva and Matthews are both capable of solidifying the innings, whilst all amassing quick runs themselves. So even if I lose an early wicket, I could turn to middle order to solidify the innings and take the game in the later stages for

3) Aggressive lower order batsmen: After the platform has been laid down by my top order. In Buttler and Russell I possess two of the most aggressive batsmen in the world right now. Buttler has England’s three fastest centuries in their history whilst Russell has an incredible strike rate of 130. I’ve also got Prabhakar who’s a very good batsmen in his own right.

4) Wicket Taking bowlers: In Donald and Ajmal I’ve two of the best ODI bowlers in a long time, both of them have an average under 25 and both are just world class. They’ll be ably supported by the likes of Watson, Gillespie and Prabhakar who are very good bowlers in their own right

5) Depth in bowling: In addition to the main bowlers I’ve listed, I’ve also got Angelo Matthews and Russell who bowl their full quota of 10 overs in their respective sides and have more than 50 or so wickets. If the ball is spinning, then De Silva and Root will provide me even more options.

6) KM: I’m a Caf mod and will infract you if you don’t vote for me.

 

[Akshay]

PaulScholes18:

Batting 2nd which I think suits my team just fine with Pollard and Faulkner who is one of the best finishes in today's game and with Rohit & Sehwag uptop anything is chaseable
Batsman

Rohit Sharma
Will look to get in first then start playing his shots
Only player in history to have 2 200+
Highest ever ODI score 264
Highest average as an opener to play at least 30 innings 53.35
SR 84.61
Over 5000 runs
100/50 10/28

Sehwag
Everyone we will go from ball 1 and get the RR down as quick as he can
Over 8200 runs
SR over 100 (highest SR for an opener with 2000+ runs)
Also has a 200+ to his name
100/50 15/38

Sangakkara
Just a world class cricketer, would get into any team in any era, will look to bat deep can pull out a big shot when he needs to

2015 World Cup which was in Australia and New Zealand he scored 4 100+ in a row including 1 at the MCG, avg 108 had a 105 SR also 2nd highest run scored
Overall he has a 41.98 avg
100/50 25/93

Faf du Plessis
Someone who will look to bat deep as wickets are important to hold back for the big push late on, look to rotate strike and hit the odd boundary

100/50 5/19

Eoin Morgan
A 360 degree player, very good at picking the gaps in the field

100/50 8/29

Kieron Pollard
Big hard hitting West Indian all-rounder with a 100 in Australia, very good against spin bowling, give me a couple of overs with the ball

SR over 90
100/50 3/7

Bowling
Avg 38.11 SR 41.05

James Faulkner
When 40 overs are up he's the next man in, sweet timer of the cricket ball and one of the best finisher in today's game
SR 111
100/50 1/4
Bowling
Avg 32.4 SR 34.54

AJ Hall
Handy with bat in hand but will hopefully will do the damage with ball in hand

Batting
100/50 0/3

Bowling
Avg 26.47 SR 35.17

Holding
Very quick and hard to play

Bowling
Avg 21.37 SR 38.54

Mendis
Top draw spinner, Has the best bowling SR of anyone with 50+ ODI
AVG 21.87 SR 27.33

Rackemann
A very good Fast bowler for Australia

Avg 22.35 SR 34.04

 

[Akshay]

@KM can you add the poll please?

 

[KM]

@Rado_N @brewlio I forgot this is the mains forum! Can either of you do the honours?

 

[Samid]

@Rado_N @brewlio I forgot this is the mains forum! Can either of you do the honours?

Guys this is what KM thinks about us. Keep that in mind while voting.

 

[Skills]

I see KM has been lying as well. Caf mod

 

[KM]

@Skills reported.

 

[Rado_N]

 

[MJJ]

 

[KM]

This is an outrage.

 

[KM]

On to the match, I think my bowling is much better than him. My openers are better considering the condition(Sehwag has an average of 22.5 in ODI's in Australia). Sangakarra is better ofcourse but after that number 4 and 5 of my team are better. Both have the equal firepower in the lower order, however I've more batting depth and IMO my bowling is just better than him.

 

[KM]

@paulscholes18 i've voted for myself in order to see the voting results. You do the same, cheers!

 

[prath92]

On to the match, I think my bowling is much better than him. My openers are better considering the condition(Sehwag has an average of 22.5 in ODI's in Australia). Sangakarra is better ofcourse but after that number 4 and 5 of my team are better. Both have the equal firepower in the lower order, however I've more batting depth and IMO my bowling is just better than him.

Tbf Andrew hall is also a decent batsman who used to play in the top order sometimes (I think). I think batting depth wise both are pretty similar though I don't rate pollard in ODIs (or any other formats for that matter).

 

[Akshay]

Sehwag has an average of 22.5 in ODI's in Australia

He's just a Maxwell wannabe anyway. I'm sure @MJJ will agree.

 

[Norris]

 

[MJJ]

He's just a Maxwell wannabe anyway. I'm sure @MJJ will agree.

I think I was doing him a service when I compared him to maxwell.

So who wants to bring up KM's dhawan posts?

 

[Norris]

I think I was doing him a service when I compared him to maxwell.

So who wants to bring up KM's dhawan posts?

Please do.

 

[MJJ]

Please do.

https://www.redcafe.net/search/28452066/?page=3&q=dhawan&o=date&c[node]=12&c[user][0]=38903

 

[Moby]

https://www.redcafe.net/search/28452066/?page=3&q=dhawan&o=date&c[node]=12&c[user][0]=38903

That's a goldmine.

 

[KM]

Busted.

 

[KM]

still think I should win this though. The bowling lineup is much better than that off PS18. I think this is gonna be an empty thread BTW. PS18 lives in UK and comes online late at night.

 

[paulscholes18]

still think I should win this though. The bowling lineup is much better than that off PS18. I think this is gonna be an empty thread BTW. PS18 lives in UK and comes online late at night.

Nope worked an early today, so I'm at home

 

[Akshay]

KM's batsmen can certainly all score in a hurry, and his bowlers can keep it reasonably tight. Watson might be the weak link in the bowling, though.

 

[Moby]

Ps has a great top order but KM's bowling seals it for me. His batsmen will prove to be a bit too good for Ps' bowling unit in my opinion.

 

[LeChuck]

This is an even match up. On face value ps18 has a better top 3, middle order id say is even, and bowling KM edges it.

A toughie.

 

[NM]

Tough one, leaning towards KM. Only problem is I on't rate his openers at all...

 

[NM]

@KM should we even consider Ajmal? He's been shit since he stopped chucking

 

[Moby]

Tough one, leaning towards KM. Only problem is I on't rate his openers at all...

A bit unfair on Watson to be honest.

 

[KM]

@KM should we even consider Ajmal? He's been shit since he stopped chucking

That's not a consideration to be made IMHO. At peak Ajmal was the best spinner in the world. He's a chucker but we are only counting peak performances. It doesn't say anthting about unfair means or.something.

Also I get the fact that my openers are a bit of a weak spot but I'm against Sharma and Sehwag ffs. Both of them are hardly solid too.

 

[Boycott]

Watson in ODIs is very good

 

[Moby]

Sehwag, Watson, Sharma, Dhawan - in that order.

 

[KM]

Sehwag, Watson, Sharma, Dhawan - in that order.

Sehwag is one of my favorite players ever but he has an average of 22.5 in about 20 matches played in Australia. The conditions must be accounted for in this case.

 

[NM]

That's not a consideration to be made IMHO. At peak Ajmal was the best spinner in the world. He's a chucker but we are only counting peak performances. It doesn't say anthting about unfair means or.something.

Also I get the fact that my openers are a bit of a weak spot but I'm against Sharma and Sehwag ffs. Both of them are hardly solid too.

But we have to right? I mean I can't bring myself to vote for a chucker. It's why I didn't pick him.. I may be being harsh, but its part of what pushed me towards voting for the other team

 

[KM]

But we have to right? I mean I can't bring myself to vote for a chucker. It's why I didn't pick him.. I may be being harsh, but its part of what pushed me towards voting for the other team

Well that's your personal choice then but we are rating them as players not as human beings.

 

[Skills]

It's a cricket draft, not some cricket court of justice. When he was playing he got away with it for a long enough time to qualify for this draft.

He just got caught after. Who knows who else was doing it years ago when testing wasn't in place. The likes of him managed to pass the old tests anyway, so imagine how many there could be when testing wasn't even in place.

 

[crappycraperson]

Saw KM's batting line up and was close to voting for ps but then saw opposition's bowling attack and meh.. very underwhelming..

 

[Akshay]

But we have to right? I mean I can't bring myself to vote for a chucker. It's why I didn't pick him.. I may be being harsh, but its part of what pushed me towards voting for the other team

Yeah, I think it has to be a factor. Ajmal isn't as good as his record says since he was chucking for at least some of that time. Just like how you can question a player's record if he didn't play against strong opponents or only in favorable conditions.

 

[KM]

If we're questioning Ajmal's record then surely the same applies to Murali etc who were bowling in an era where rules weren't that strict.

 

[Mani]

I don't have any issue with Ajmal's action or he's playing here, in fact he's one of the important factor for me to go with KM.Boycott had got good batting unit but chasing /batting second against the quality of Ajmal/Donald and Gillespie should be an issue.