The trojan horse Mourinho - in depth analysis

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Ok, I'm done with the club right now. This situation is actually far worse than the Moyes one. In Moyes we had a charlatan - however, he wanted to do his best and had intentions to win and take the club forward. He just didn't have the knowledge or tools to do so. He set us back to a level that can be compared to Tottenham 10 years ago.

LVG - as usual he will look even better when you look at it in hindsight. He's growing for every minute now and I wouldn't be surprised to see a little chapter on him in the club's cabinet. With only a bit of luck there might even been a small statue - of course not the size of the biggest legends, but something like a face sculpture. We could discuss this matter for a lifetime without reaching a conclusion. Let's just leave it with a FA cup title. People seem to underestimate the difficulty with reaching to the very top in that competition. It's one hell of an achievement!

So let's go over to Mourinho. Last night he really shocked me. I've gone from hating him to fearing him. It all started getting spooky when we lost to Feyenoord in september, right after a horrible defeat to City. I said then that was the worse performance in our club's history. It was just unreal. We followed that up with a 3-1 loss vs Watford :houllier: SAF would never have had that. He'd be fuming after the City loss and go on to win 5-6 games in a row!!

So just what the hell is going on? I'll tell you my thoughts.

Guys, I'm afraid we've got ourself a full blooded psychopath as a manager. If you look at his behavior at the club it's unheard of. Yes, LVG had his shit with Di Maria and Memphis, but never did he let it get personal. I'm talking about Schweinsteiger here. This has become a virus in the club and we are now seeing the results of it. Mourinho is not a team builder - he's a freaking monster. He's constantly seeking for confrontation to scare the players at his own club, opposition club or people associated with football in any way. He started out softly with including Rooney etc, but it was always in the plan to overtake the power at the club.

At Madrid he went straight into the wall. He went into a fight with Cassillias and we all know how that ended. The club was in deep trouble for a long while until they got rid of him. At Chelsea it continued. This is because of some mental problem he's been getting of lately. Just listen to the way he talks, he just can't behave in the public room, he's just got to attack referees or players or even his staff. He needs house-training right now.

I called this before we signed him and had to retreat from that opinion right away after being HATE ATTACKED by the CAF!! I wanted to hang on to LVG. I saw the trouble coming from a mile away with that staff bullshit at Chelsea. And look at where we are now. IN DEEP SHIT. And it will get worse. He's now buying himself time by taking Schweinsteiger back into training in the frist team. I bet Schweiny is just in there to get more humiliation.

This freak is so sick that he even signs players that he can bully if there are not enough victims in the club. Take Mhiki for example last night. WHAT THE feck WAS THAT CONTRIBUTE MORE BULLSHIT?? :eek:

He knows he's lost right now. Just where the hell is he heading after a failure at our club? No big club will want him and he will never take on a shit job. Unfortunately we're stuck with him because we're already paying wages for both Moyes and LVG and can never afford having a third guy on the payroll + new manager (and who the hell would be the new manager????). I think this will cost us millions of pounds and will take years to repair - if it's even possible to do. RIP MAN UNITED!!!!:(
 

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Personally I'm prepared to wait and see how things pan over a season or two, not after a matter of a few weeks.
 

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We played very well last Saturday, all the knee jerkers seem to forget that.
 

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A Trojan Horse would imply he's still working for someone else (Chelsea?) and sabotaging us from within.
I was looking forward to reading that ridiculous narrative and was sorely disappointed that you didn't even mention it...

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A Trojan Horse?
So he came/was sent here to sabotage Man United?

For all you know, Jose might be trying to clear the troublemakers out of the club.
The Miki situation is weird, but let's not jump to conclusions and make granduous declarations.
 

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I actually read all of that. I want those 2 mins 27 secs of my life back.
Well invested time. You'll see the bigger picture as we go forward. I don't expect any of you to agree with me right now.

Mourinho is a virus. He's even undoing the foundations laid by LVG, which makes it even more sad. I take it you're happy with our results of lately?
 

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The Miki situation is weird, but let's not jump to conclusions and make granduous declarations.
Is Weird? I would say it's a bit more than weird. He's showing clear signs of being a psychopath. Anyone who's been working a bit higher up in an organisation know these kind of people. He signed Miki to bully him.
 

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I expected something about Ruud van Nistelrooy in there. Disappointed.
 

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Well invested time. You'll see the bigger picture as we go forward. I don't expect any of you to agree with me right now.

Mourinho is a virus. He's even undoing the foundations laid by LVG, which makes it even more sad. I take it you're happy with our results of lately?
Jesus Mary and Joseph you say that like it's a bad thing. That's exactly what he's got to do!
 

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Is Weird? I would say it's a bit more than weird. He's showing clear signs of being a psychopath. Anyone who's been working a bit higher up in an organisation know these kind of people. He signed Miki to bully him.
Why would he sign Mikhytarian to bully him when he was coming to a club that had a player whom he ready successfully bullied out of a previous club?

Surely a psychopath would prefer to re-terrorize a previous victim than take a chance on a new one.
 

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Well, here is just a little table that I created to show how bad Mourinho is at the moment, and compare his statistics to David Moyes and Louis Van Gaal. For the record, only 3 ex-Manchester United managers since the club began have managed a loss percentage in their career of 25.00% or less. Furthermore, of José Mourinho shares the same loss percentage as David Moyes; 29.41%. Here is the image and the statistics will show how much we are in regression since Sir Alex hung up his Pumas:

http://prntscr.com/d337mb

Further to those statistics, Louis Van Gaals record against the top 6 reads:

First season (all competitions):

Played 11
Won 5
Drawn 3
Lost 3

Note that José Mourinho has managed three times against top 6 teams this season and has lost all but 1, which was a draw against Liverpool

However, just like any other fan, I was sticking behind Moyes, I was sticking behind Van Gaal, and I will continue to support José Mourinho.
 

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I expected something about Ruud van Nistelrooy in there. Disappointed.
I tried to make this text very compact. I know a wall of text is not something anyone would wish for. I didn't go into the extreme details like Rashford on the wing or losing to a Chelsea team containing a player like Victor Moses.

Jesus Mary and Joseph you say that like it's a bad thing. That's exactly what he's got to do!
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Aren't you the person with an abnormally low IQ? Not sure we should be listening to you on anything to be honest.
 

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Well, here is just a little table that I created to show how bad Mourinho is at the moment, and compare his statistics to David Moyes and Louis Van Gaal. For the record, only 3 ex-Manchester United managers since the club began have managed a loss percentage in their career of 25.00% or less. Furthermore, of José Mourinho shares the same loss percentage as David Moyes; 29.41%. Here is the image and the statistics will show how much we are in regression since Sir Alex hung up his Pumas:

http://prntscr.com/d337mb

Further to those statistics, Louis Van Gaals record against the top 6 reads:

First season (all competitions):

Played 11
Won 5
Drawn 3
Lost 3

Note that José Mourinho has managed three times against top 6 teams this season and has lost all but 1, which was a draw against Liverpool

However, just like any other fan, I was sticking behind Moyes, I was sticking behind Van Gaal, and I will continue to support José Mourinho.
I can't stand Mourinhos mentality when we play big clubs. He looks more scared for every time and then tries to talk like we had the chance to win against Chelsea if we only had put away our chances :houllier:. I'm fearing the Arsenal game will be one of our biggest defeats ever.
 

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Let's be honest we fluked a run that had Everton as the hardest team in our run. We hardly won it in style either.

LVG was never taking us further then that point.
 

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Ah, the good old Trojan story from Virgil:

After many years have slipped by, the leaders of the Chavs,
opposed by the Fates, and damaged by the war,
build a horse of Mourinious size, through Terry's divine art,
and weave planks of fir over its ribs:
they pretend it's a mutual consent to sack: this rumour spreads.
They secretly hide a picked body of Farias and prostitutes, chosen by lot,
there, in the dark body, filling the belly and the huge
cavernous insides with stupid selfies from Lingard.
[...]
 

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You'd swear we're bottom of League 2 reading all of that pessimism:lol: We have a big job to get back to where we once were, Jose does too. But we have the resources and ambition to get back to where we belong and we will. I have no doubt about it. You're clearly not a Jose fan but as you said, he's here to stay and we just need to back him. We have come back from much worse than this in the past, a few bad apples and a few busted flushes won't stop us.

Just keep thinking of the bigger picture, we're pretty average at the moment but it'll get better. Just remember the immortal saying:



"Hard work pays off, dreams come true. Bad times don't last but BAD GUYS do":devil: Cheer up hun xx
 

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Nah he ousted schweinsteiger to get the other lads on side after what he had heard about the trips to Germany etc.

He knew first things first was he needed the big players and old dogs on side.

Only once he had gone as far as alienating him and it been too far gone he realised the real backstabbing cnuts are still within the squad.
 
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