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Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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I corrected it to 'all the power.
The rationale is that having someone/anyone with a reasonable knowledge (and ideally a track record) of what it takes to build a successful team taking over from Woodward the oversight of our transfer strategy could only improve us as a football club.
Hard to disagree with that logic tbh.
Ferguson couldn't have said it better himself.
Whoever the DoF is, I hope it's done quickly and get the preparation done for the summer. Most important thing is Ed willing to give up control and let the DoF have most of the say on the football side.
Can someone please add to this list of pre-requisites so that I can work out who ticks the boxes?
The role of the Director of football
Must be a proper football man
Track record of recruiting players who immediately improve the starting XI
Working relationship with manager, nothing more (no input on tactics)
Doesnt take shite from Agents....
The role of the Director of football
Must be a proper football man
Track record of recruiting players who immediately improve the starting XI
Working relationship with manager, nothing more (no input on tactics)
Doesnt take shite from Agents....
People forget that a director of football is a single man too, so he is not supposed to make mistakes himself. I don't like to see a Chelsea style Dof, hence manager also should have a say in it.
It would not have helped if Pep was forced to play with Joe hart. That's the point I am making when I say manager should also have a say in it when he is managing a team.
Think we will see couple of people brought in, someone like Paul Mitchell as head of scouting/recruitment and the a sporting director or equivalent.
If Woodward didn't trust Jose with transfers, why would he trust a DoF?
He did trust Jose when he appointed him, he just failed to perform to the tune of £400m If a DOF performs badly he should also get the chop.
Saying the Woodward should get the chop if he keeps appointing people who fail.
I’m pretty sure we getting a transfer committee in.
This position is the key. It doesn’t matter if the caretaker does well, I hope we don’t rush to appointing him. Usually what happens with caretaker managers they have a good start and then they don’t do well once they take over full time.
What if our director of football wants those players?
We’ve had managers with track records of winning league titles and European Cups. Woodward still decided to tell everyone that he knows better. It should improve anyway because let’s face it, it can’t get worse.
At any cost? The DOF has to work within the budget constraints and should be hired with that in mind plus the understanding that more value is placed on younger players.
Well if he wants players who are heading past their prime like Willian, Perisic or Boateng then I would question why we appointed him.
You assume he was acting alone and speaking for himself there...
Then I suppose we hired a wrong man.
impossible. once some has the job title 'DoF' (with the little o) then they are sublime in the transfer market, signing only young dutch defenders and never players within 7 years of 30
Literally every other club that's doing well at the moment has a DoF\transfer structure and yet we have dinosaurs on here who think they know better. Hilarious.
Then we sign them. Assuming the manager is on board too. Whatever, at least we have two people with the requisite skills/experience involved in the discussion. Which is a big improvement on every transfer window since Fergie retired.
I do agree that DoF’s aren’t infallible but it’s hard to find any examples of modern, successful clubs that don’t have this model. So makes sense we get on board too. All the more so when our current structure is so blatantly unfit for purpose.
He didn’t decide he knew better he just didn’t want to spend fortunes on short term solutions and sacrifice players like Martial to do so.
His mistake was giving Mourinho a new contract and not ensuring the manager and the club were on the same page.
think most people are just making the point that it holds the same risk as the managers position. liverpools transfer committee didn't work out for a lot of years before this recent run of form. spurs have had disastrous flirts with dof. the chelsea guy seems to fall out with managers all the time. when it works it makes sense and when it doesn't it has the same potential to bring down a club as a bad manager
I’m sure people are oppose to a DoF just to try and be relevant. There’s mo suggestion in modern day football that you can do without one!
It’s receiving extra banter today but beyond the jokes it’s horrible to remember that this club ever gave Moyes a six-year contract.
True. That's the reason power concentrated at one person rarely works now. The team together has to make sensible decisions overall.
Hmmm. Was Paul Mitchell working with Poch at both Southampton and Spuds?
If we do go for PM, it might be with a view towards landing Poch, a-la Txitlisti and Guardiola.
If we do go for PM, it might be with a view towards landing Poch, a-la Txitlisti and Guardiola.
Because he doesn’t have a history of it?
Wait so now people are moaning they don't want a DoF? Textbook caf.
Absolutely. There's a great deal of risk involved with the appointment, just like there is with any significant hire made at a football club. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do it or that we should stick to status quo, which has proven to be untenable without someone of the level of SAF at the helm.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that, just that is needs to be set up well and the chances of woodward making a bollocks of it the first 4 times are pretty high...
a lot of the posts on here suggesting neville and van der saar seem to think anyone can do the job and you just throw them in and we will be wonderful. evra is another one
You might be onto something here. I mean... he did almost sign Ronaldo. And Suarez. And Varane...
DoF is a must. Manager should be the one who decides what happens on the pitch, the face of the club to media and fans, and responsible for improving players. Manager’s role should be limited to giving potential transfer targets and why.
DoF should handle who we actually buy to fill in a requirement, scouting, young players, contracts, etc.
DoF should handle who we actually buy to fill in a requirement, scouting, young players, contracts, etc.
We have to move with the times.
I don't have a great deal of faith in Ed either, but a key difference between this job and the manager position is that you're primarily evaluating the ability of a person to build an operational group rather than evaluating the ability of a person to coach the team. You would hope Ed would be able to evaluate the former more comfortably than the latter. It could still easily go tits up, but at least this is a bit more in his wheelhouse.
Yeah, those suggestions while well intentioned are the opposite of what we want. The first requirement for the position should be someone with experience rebuilding a clubf's football operations. None of those guys, nor any other former United players, have any applicable experience with that
Evra has reappeared recently.could he be the new DOF? I'm not advocating for him just wondering if that's what was happening.
Only 5 years late. Well done board.
Post of the day
Watch how we still manage to delay hiring a DoF until after a new manager is appointed.
No and if he is then Woodward is really clueless.
Some of the names of the potential DOF on the last few pages...Evra, Neville, etc 
The club aren’t that stupid. The DOF will be proven in his area, it will be someone like Paul Mitchell or Monchi.
The club aren’t that stupid. The DOF will be proven in his area, it will be someone like Paul Mitchell or Monchi.
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