So far he's actually worse than him, if that's even possible.
Should've taken a smaller step and gain some experience.
Thierry Henry replaces Jardim as Monaco manager | Replaced by err...Jardim
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Should've taken a smaller step and gain some experience.
Though never going to be 100% correct all the time - I always find midfielders to be the type of player who is suited to management.
Strikers are historically predatory & have to be selfish, Defenders can be somewhat a reactive role.
Midfielders however have to think much more equally about passing, positioning, defence, attack, being selfish & being non selfish, being accurate, timing runs, etc being very deep in everything you do whilst also carrying a lot of different aspects to look at.
It is just something I noticed that so far some of the better newer generation managers tend to be midfielders. Anyone who has played as a midfielder whilst playing football will know what I'm talking about & the difference in aspect a forward has to a midfielder - and why I think that position legitimately has a role to play for some ex players when going in to management.
Strikers are historically predatory & have to be selfish, Defenders can be somewhat a reactive role.
Midfielders however have to think much more equally about passing, positioning, defence, attack, being selfish & being non selfish, being accurate, timing runs, etc being very deep in everything you do whilst also carrying a lot of different aspects to look at.
It is just something I noticed that so far some of the better newer generation managers tend to be midfielders. Anyone who has played as a midfielder whilst playing football will know what I'm talking about & the difference in aspect a forward has to a midfielder - and why I think that position legitimately has a role to play for some ex players when going in to management.
Maybe he needs to spend some time in the wings before assuming a central role.
One of the very best managers ever were attackers or strikers - Lattek, Fergie, Cruyff, Zagallo, Busby, Clough, Hitzfeld, Lobanovskiy, Michels.
Others were defenders like Beckenbauer, Trapattoni, Herrera, Paisley, Happel, Lippi, etc.
Of course there is a plethora of midfielders like Capello, Ancelotti, Miguel Munoz, now Guardiola.
Not sure if there is a correlation in it to be honest, but those who were really visionaries in the past were either attackers or defenders. Midfielders generally got great results and were successful but didn't really create an ideology or something revolutionary in management.
I still don't know how anyone can comment about his abilities, he currently has to play 3rd stringers and genuine academy players. The medical staff needs to be investigated though.
I totally get that but football to me now a days is much more scientific than it was; something that needs tactics at a different level. I'm not for once putting down the tactics of ex managers - just that the game is almost put on a pan these days with players that look after themselves and need to be put in systems that get the upmost best of them.
For that in a midfielder may be marginally better; a player that has to look in front and behind them whilst timing everything that needs to be done. Guardiola, Zidane, Simeone, Enrique, Southgate, just the top of my head have some play time as a midfielder.
I only say this because I have a sneeky feeling that either Butt or Carrick are the ones who get us running again potentially.
They playing the team above them tomorrow.
Surely he has to be winning that? I think the board could end up being nervous if they lose that.
They currently don't have a better team than the team above them, so I don't see why they would have to be winning anything.
I'm sure Neville will leap to his defence and say how "disgraceful" it is that he's not been given time. Henry should be given the time, money and resources to plummet the club to the depths of the French second tier. It's what proper football management is about.
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Would be ridiculous and sad at the same time when they officially get relegated, which is by their form isn't that surprise any more. Still 3 points away from safety but they don't look like a team to make it.
Maybe Henry should invest some of his own money in the team?
Or maybe we should look at the owner and ask where all the money the club received from their massive transfers has gone? It's a disgrace, and it's sad that Henry couldn't get a better opportunity to start his professional career. No one can succeed in these conditions.
What do you think about his back three? Personally I'm not a fan of it, when you couple it with the lack of pressing and the relatively low defensive line, his team is always on the back foot.
There was me thinking legendary players could just walk into their old clubs, put smiles on faces and everything would get better. Right Mr Ince? 
Tbf Monaco has like 10 injuries, Henry doesn't have much to work with.There was me thinking legendary players could just walk into their old clubs, put smiles on faces and everything would get better. Right Mr Ince?
Think there might be a difference in quality of player as well...There was me thinking legendary players could just walk into their old clubs, put smiles on faces and everything would get better. Right Mr Ince?
Since when was Henry a Monaco legend?There was me thinking legendary players could just walk into their old clubs, put smiles on faces and everything would get better. Right Mr Ince?
They have signed Fabregas can’t imagint they will be relegated with him running midfield in such an average league.
Yes of course. I was obviously joking because of the Rio Mike Ashley stuff .
they're improving, drawn the last 3, I think he can keep them up
Cesc Fábregas will save their asses.
The pre-Arsenal Henry was basically a young prodigy playing for AS M.
One of the greatest players I have ever seen in the premier league. A great smile too. But just not manager material.
He is a Monaco youth product, legend would be a stretch.
Henry is well and truly a Monaco legend.
So is Anthony Martial.
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Too lazy to use wikipedia right now: didn"t he win a Ligue in 97 or 98?
You must remember Monaco knocking MU out of CL in 98, so it's 97.
Oh come on, Ole has managed to turn both Jones & Matic into footballers since arriving, when everyone thought they were completely lost causes.
I don’t think Jones has turned into a footballer.
Can't say if serious or trolling...
We have 2 clean sheets in the last 2 games, he's done well(ish).
This, they are more than down to bare bones.
They have drawn with Nice now and surely with the Fabregas signing they will have enough quality to turn it around
Not implying that Ole didn't do a fantastic job, just saying Henry's situation is extremely difficult.
worse than Neville, as he was in a new country which is always culturally different, a league he'd never played in, with a team that he didn't speak their lingo.
If they were to go down what do you think would happen with the club? Surely a mass exodus and fire sale of all their top players which would put them in a dire financial situation. On the "bright" side it could give them a full season to develop their young player and get back to Ligue 1. Nonetheless I just can't see them going down I think they will hit a patch of form and get out of it.
From what I'm hearing of what's happening to Monaco I think this was simply a job that was destined to fail and shouldn't be a testament to Henry's capabilities as a manager just yet. Somewhat similar to Solskjaer's stint at Cardiff in that sense maybe?
Falcao,Cesc, Golovin,Chadli,Tielemans,Jovetic,Raggi,Glick
Look at the quality and tell me they are going down
Look at the quality and tell me they are going down
Are they all fit though? Injuries have really hit them hard this season.Falcao,Cesc, Golovin,Chadli,Tielemans,Jovetic,Raggi,Glick
Look at the quality and tell me they are going down