Are we?We're going to score more goals than we have at any point since Fergie left. That would be fun as something we've struggled with and while not impossible I don't know what would necessarily lead them to that conclusion as we haven't brought in any top attacking talent. Ole factor? Well from when he took over until season's end we scored 36 in 21 @ 1.71 per game, under Mourinho it was 29 in 17, also @ 1.71 a game. 65 to 72 isn't a huge gap to bridge and there's always variance anyway, just not seeing the signs I suppose.
Are we?
I reckon that we will concede significantly fewer goals than last season; certainly more than the three suggested above. AWB will obviously help, but I'm hoping for better organisation and a regaining of the confidence that Jose destroyed last summer by telling the world our defence was shit. Despite it quite obviously not having been in the previous season when we finished second. I'm not opposed to the signing of Maguire but don't believe he'll make that much difference.
I just don't see where all these extra goals are going to come from. We should score more simply by virtue of playing more expansive football, but with a goal shy midfield it's a hell of a lot of pressure on our young forwards.
With the added 66 goal difference, just to rub it in.6th "again"
Brutal.
That's an interesting point, though Ole's rotation seems to have been all rather random so far, rather than with that sort of plan in mind.According to them, not me. That's why the rest of my post was sceptical about it.
Sure, it can happen, but I don't know why they'd necessarily predict that. After giving it some further thought the only thing I can come up with is that perhaps our Europa League involvement might mean we'll heavily rotate in that competition. If so, and we were to find ourselves 2 or 3 goals up in certain league games ahead of a EL match there's no need to conserve energy for the midweek game as the same players wouldn't be playing so they could continue to go for it.
In general though, not really seeing it as we didn't score more per game under Ole than we did Mou last season and we haven't signed any top forwards either. Don't really get how they've decided that.
Are you being serious?This is utter crap. Don't know why it's a thread. Just even more negative threads to add to an already depressed forum. Sort it out.
So you think the results of an independent data based experiment is what we should be basing our thoughts on? Since when has data or stats told a full story?Are you being serious?
If the results of an independent, impartial data-based experiment are too negative for you then you might want to sack off watching games next season and instead find somebody who can let you know each time we win so you can follow United without all that annoying negativity.
Under their algorithm it will be to do with Rashford and Martial being a year older I'd guess. Expected goals would drop if we were to sell Lukaku.We're going to score more goals than we have at any point since Fergie left. That would be fun as something we've struggled with and while not impossible I don't know what would necessarily lead them to that conclusion as we haven't brought in any top attacking talent. Ole factor? Well from when he took over until season's end we scored 36 in 21 @ 1.71 per game, under Mourinho it was 29 in 17, also @ 1.71 a game. 65 to 72 isn't a huge gap to bridge and there's always variance anyway, just not seeing the signs I suppose.
Hehe. Sesame Street are even devoting that number to you.With the added 66 goal difference, just to rub it in.
Statistics is never the full story. It provides us with a good estimate of the full story though.So you think the results of an independent data based experiment is what we should be basing our thoughts on? Since when has data or stats told a full story?
There's very little information in the article on their methods. They just say Machine Learning, as if that is self explanatory.Do they update the data and associated predictions according to changes in squad personnel that happen during the remainder of the transfer window?
You should base your thoughts on whatever the hell you want, they are your thoughts.So you think the results of an independent data based experiment is what we should be basing our thoughts on? Since when has data or stats told a full story?
The lack of transparency in their method is disappointing. Still, the inner workings of models like this tend to include IP valued by companies as being worth million of pounds. Being deliberately obtuse and protective of the actual formulas and metrics that produce outcomes like this mirrors all of my experiences with private sector 'big data's companies thus far.There's very little information in the article on their methods. They just say Machine Learning, as if that is self explanatory.
Now I really hate them.
These sort of analyses give Analytics a bad name
My issue is with their definition of a simulation, which looks to be deterministic (no probability included) or a single point stochastic run (one possible outcome is displayed as their prediction).
A sensible analysis IMO would state what the probability is that United finish 1st or 2nd or 3rd or... and so on for every club.
Probably should have put some sort of stats abuse trigger warning in there when I shared the link. Apologies for the oversight.There's very little information in the article on their methods. They just say Machine Learning, as if that is self explanatory.
Now I really hate them.
There’s a complete lack of transparency to their methods which they haven’t explained. Unless you can explain it to me? How did they get to this? Or do you just believe anything you read? Because although it looks realistic based on last seasons finish I still stand by my comment about this being absolute garbage. Good day pal.You should base your thoughts on whatever the hell you want, they are your thoughts.
It's your assertion that posting an independent data-driven simulation of the upcoming season is negativity unworthy of discussion that is silly.
Does it 'tell the whole story'? Well no, the season hasn't happened yet. Unless you can invent a time machine and travel a year in the future I think you will be out of luck if you're expecting to learn the story of next season before it's happened.
Good day to you too sir!There’s a complete lack of transparency to their methods which they haven’t explained. Unless you can explain it to me? How did they get to this? Or do you just believe anything you read? Because although it looks realistic based on last seasons finish I still stand by my comment about this being absolute garbage. Good day pal.