Agreed, needs the fans and more importantly Woodward and the glazers not to crack under pressure. Hopefully the football being better while playing one of the youngest squads in the league if not the youngest is enough cover for Ole as it’s gonna take time.
It didn't seem like one worthy of anymore attention. Seems like nonsense but that's how this all starts. What do you make of it?
Meh. Could be true, could be bollocks but that's always how they do start. Am personally pretty certain they didn't tell him he could finish 10th at the start of season expectations meeting
The only thing that did disturb me a little is the notion that yet again, the manager is being singled out without any sort of rumor or noise that maybe the one above him is the problem.
True. Make no mistake people don't think they are blameless, it's just no one expects them to sack themselves from the club
Meh. Not too sure about him. Of course he did well to get as far as he did in the CL with Ajax last year but to me it seems like he's now having trouble to get anywhere near last season's footy. Of course they lost Frenkie and De Ligt but still. I don't know. Makes me wonder. Maybe last season was more down to the quality of the players than the coach. Ten Hag lacks charisma too. To be honest I still think Peter Bosz is the better coach. He did well at Ajax, was a bit unlucky at Dortmund but is now impressing again at Bayer Leverkusen. He's more charismatic and has a very clear offensive playing style.
Last year Manchester city had 17 shots on goal those three games... 13 is not that far of... city lost at home to Crystal Palace 2-3 last year. City had 6 shots on goal in their 3-1 win over Southampton away last year. We had 8 the last game. We are NOT as bad as the doomsday advocates try and paint it. We are on the right path... Give the boys time to find their mojo.
He's playing Lingard as a starter, or a key sub. Letting Rashord shoot from where ever he wants, Pogba playing as a DM, Fred, Gomes, Greenwood getting nothing or scraps....some of these decisions are Ole's completely and the blame should rightly be placed at his door.
The problem with this approach is you can't sign anyone but average players when you have finished 10th in the league. Why would any top talent want to join us when there are better options with more proven managers available?
But if we sack him and finish 2 places higher that doesn’t help either, a real project would even if it is slower than we all would like (impatient bar stewards that we all are)
You don't think finishing top 4 vs top 6 makes a difference? I think it does, massively.
Sorry thought we were talking about 10th to 8th
True though innit!
Haha true, doubt wherever we finish outside the top 6 would make any difference.Sorry thought we were talking about 10th to 8th
Oh yes 4th is a big difference, I doubt it’s something we need to concern ourselves over though.
Because we tell them we’re building a project and it’s going to take time, plus here’s an extra 50k a week for your troubles and maybe we tell them if we’re not in the champ league in two seasons we will agree to sell. There’s ways around it.
We have been building a project for approaching 10 years now. I doubt players are going to continue buying that rubbish. We are simply a club with no direction who scrap their approach and start anew whenever their approach inevitably fails.
It’s a great moral point. Like saying women footballers should be paid the same as men, but forgets that they are essential two different businesses with different revenue streams and if one subsidises the other it will go bust.
I guess you would prefer seing Jose football then. When you have
1990 called. They want you back in your seat.
If Sancho only wanted trophies and money he would never have left Man City. If we can show stability and progress I am sure we're a very enticing prospect for someone like him where he will be the main man down the right wing.
Care to explain what that means?
Haha yeah it was funny watching the Salford stuff. For someone who constantly badgers about giving managers time he was battling to sack the co managers even though they were top of the table and had only been there that season. Think they’d lost a few games and the football became bad and he was ready to sack them. I like Neville but he came across as a gigantic hypocrite with that. With Neville it’s almost as if his default is ‘stick to the manager’ so that on the occasion sticking works, he can say I told you so.
I like Ole and the dirty work he is doing, but yes, if one of the few genuinely world class managers comes available, we need to get them in. The other thing with Poch, which is more important than people realise, is he’s done it in the Premier League, which means he’ll be given time. It’s amazing how much more time the red top press and the less educated fan will give to someone that is proven on these shores. Look at the treatment of Sarri; he’d have had a lot more slack at Chelsea if his Napoli achievements had been in England.
Don't think anyone would disagree with that. I think Ole will lay some good foundations for Poch at least.
Getting rid of so many poor players shows he's already started.
Yes if our style of play has significantly changed to one that's positive and effective, and one that just needs a few more tweaks in the transfer market to really get it going. Perhaps with some good runs in the cups. Though 2 years out of the CL will reduce the money we get from the Adidas sponsorship so maybe Ed wouldn't think the same and look for someone more experienced.
People have been asking for signs of improvement, and I think this is it. Time will tell, but I believe if this is kept up, then results will surely follow. Top 4 is still a realistic target despite all the doom and gloom around these parts. Points wise we are still just 2 behind Arsenal, while ahead of both Chelsea and Spurs.
A club of our stature shouldn't be going for anything less than top 4, rebuild or not. Top 6 is failure. We should be rebuilding by getting a minimum of top 4 until we are ready to challenge for the title again.
Thanks secretary, but impressive as your skill is, it’s when you can take calls from the future that I’ll give you that pay raise.
Obviously it’s too early to judge anything about final position. But people judging us against arsenal and spurs etc should realise that both those teams have already played each other and the two best teams in Europe
So you really think that the ship is sinking. Once is sinks, there is no coming back. United are an institution and I can guarantee we'll win another at some point.
He’s ruthless. His plan is to get Salford promoted to championship league year after year, with maybe one year without promotion. It’s based on heavy expenditure financed by his SE Asian Billionaire friend, the club makes a loss £2-£3m every year so they have to get to the championship to start breaking even or making a profit. But it exposes how he has no patience with managers.
Proper tin foil hat stuff.
