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Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Was LVG or Jose not competent enough regards coaching and tactical awareness?
Do you honestly believe a new manager will suddenly get these players performing above their natural level?
Might have been better. I would have liked Blanc, he was suggested here by many members. Not sure if the club ever considered him or what he's up to.
DOF? Good idea.
Jose wanted Maguire.
Giggs recommended James.
So he deserves the role simply for signing AWB?!
It’s akin to a police officer solving a petty crime and being offered a role in MI6 as a result.
This idea needs to stop.
Also, shocking tonight. Well, I say shocking, I’m not even shocked by performances/results like that anymore. That in itself speaks volumes.
Jose wanted Maguire.
Giggs recommended James.
So he deserves the role simply for signing AWB?!
It’s akin to a police officer solving a petty crime and being offered a role in MI6 as a result.
This idea needs to stop.
Also, shocking tonight. Well, I say shocking, I’m not even shocked by performances/results like that anymore. That in itself speaks volumes.
We aspire to be like AZ.
This is the same Gary Neville that ranted for about 10 minutes the night before we played Newcastle last season when the papers were running with the story that Mourinho was being sacked regardless of the result? When and what was the criticism?
Sure, he gets paid less than Mourinho did but there are only 5 managers in Europe who is getting bigger paycheck than OGS.
I seriously doubt that Klopp would get much more from this bunch. I do wonder if Ole and Ed sat down during the summer and convinced themselves that Mata, Lingard, Fred, Pereira, Matic, Dalot are good enough to compete for top four? Our squad is paper thin and it only takes a couple of injuries to turn us into Brighton. The bright spots are that the three signings from the summer all look good and that Tuanzebe and Greenwood are going to make it.
If I could see some hope that the squad is coming together and there is a team forming somewhere in there then I would be all for keeping him. But the reality is there is nothing. Absolutely feck all apart from some soft talk every time we have a shit result which is pretty much every game now. We are a shambles and definitely regressing.
11pts from our last 12 league games. Sorry but that's more than enough to judge him. That works out at 34 pts over a season. And honestly there is no sign of it turning around at all.
The job is beyond him. He has to go.
11pts from our last 12 league games. Sorry but that's more than enough to judge him. That works out at 34 pts over a season. And honestly there is no sign of it turning around at all.
The job is beyond him. He has to go.
Get rid of him ASAP. He should be sacked now.
The worst manager we've had post SAF.
Not a single Prem team would hire him as manager and we did.
The worst manager we've had post SAF.
Not a single Prem team would hire him as manager and we did.
Should have shown some balls tonight, hauled off Mata and Matic at halftime, Greenwood and Gomes moves to their best positions.
He looks desperate and like someone out of ideas already. I think his just isn’t capable and has a poor squad and it’s a terrible combination that only ends one way.
He looks desperate and like someone out of ideas already. I think his just isn’t capable and has a poor squad and it’s a terrible combination that only ends one way.
Once we get Martial we will be fine. Just missing some good quality up top. If given a choice i would have swapped Martial injury to pretty much any other player on our team and we would be in a better position.
Some of you lot have completely lost the plot
The team has achieved almost the same amount of points in the league over the sa.e amount of games between Ole and Jose.
ITS NOT THE MANAGER
The squad is threadbare. The veteran players are past it. The kids are young. And we have no proven goalscorer. What do you expect? We are in for some long years. Clearly ole has a plan to go forward. They buys have been good. The culture and playing style of the youth team has been good. The time now is to back him heavily in the next 2 or 3 transfer windows and see what that gets us. We aren't going to be Top 4 this season. The squad isn't good enough. We needed to sign a Dybala and Fernandes but we didnt and now we are going to struggle. It's time you come to terms with that.
The team has achieved almost the same amount of points in the league over the sa.e amount of games between Ole and Jose.
ITS NOT THE MANAGER
The squad is threadbare. The veteran players are past it. The kids are young. And we have no proven goalscorer. What do you expect? We are in for some long years. Clearly ole has a plan to go forward. They buys have been good. The culture and playing style of the youth team has been good. The time now is to back him heavily in the next 2 or 3 transfer windows and see what that gets us. We aren't going to be Top 4 this season. The squad isn't good enough. We needed to sign a Dybala and Fernandes but we didnt and now we are going to struggle. It's time you come to terms with that.
Greenwood played as a striker a lot during the game and showed nothing. He switched positions with James several times. Gomes didn't perform. They're young players. It happens. Why you would blame Ole for that is beyond me. Be happy that he's giving them chances. They would never have played as much under Mourinho or most other managers.
Yea i feel this. He needs results soon, as in Newcastle and by 2 goals as well. A dodgy one nil against Newcastle wont suffice.
If i were a betting man i would say like you say 8 to ten weeks and he is gone.
Look i want him to do well and the last thing we need is another manager change.
How can it be beyond you did you not watch the game?. He switched them round pointlessly and allowed Mata to stink up the game for 82 minutes.
I’m glad he’s playing them but he’s doing a shit job that’s just the reality, Jose is irrelevant he’s gone time to forget about him.
The 0 shots on target was the real kicker tonight. Impossible to defend that stat.
martial really isn’t that amazing, his stock always rises to a ridiculous level when he’s injured, which is often. We do miss him, but he’s hardly a consistent player who can be relied upon.
Clearly, United has the better players. AZ has only two exceptional players: Stengs and Boadu (but he's very young, just turned 18). Then they have some good/decent players like Koopmeiners, Wijndal, Bizot the goalkeeper, Idrissi, mitsjö. But the difference is AZ is a very organised team. United is no team.
Sanity, it exists on the caf!
Another change is just gonna set us back another season.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
I back Ole and want him to be given time but how the feck is not having a win in 10 straight away games not an issue? No excuses, just fix it.
Ole, 10 away games without the win, what's the reason?
Well...today is because of the decision of the referee and we'd be sat here smiling
Give it a rest Ole, we ain't mugs.
The 7 touches inside the opposition area was worse. I mean WTF ?
Yes, we should be extremely happy that all our club is good for these days is giving opportunities to young players and subsequently ruining their careers. Wow, what an achievement. Hopefully, one day, we're awarded a trophy for this.
Players are clearly not good enough but you can’t ignore fact every game is passing by with zero plan....no tactical pattern....no idea how to break down a team.
I don’t think he’s a coach and it seems evident to me were lacking that anywhere on the staff. I think he’s trusting them to figure it out themselves on the pitch. Problem is when players aren’t good enough, then this is what you get.
Whether you want him gone or not, it’s irrelevant - he won’t make it till the end of the year. Next 7 games will take its toll.
I don’t think he’s a coach and it seems evident to me were lacking that anywhere on the staff. I think he’s trusting them to figure it out themselves on the pitch. Problem is when players aren’t good enough, then this is what you get.
Whether you want him gone or not, it’s irrelevant - he won’t make it till the end of the year. Next 7 games will take its toll.
Gone by the end of the season 150%
This club is dead, we won't be anywhere near the top for a long, long time. Accept it and move on, our glory years are over.
Goals scored in our last 22 games.
0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 4, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 2, 0, 1, 2, 1, 0
0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 4, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 2, 0, 1, 2, 1, 0
He has been worse than Moyes, and I thought that would be literally impossible to be achieved.
He didn't switch them around pointlessly. They were free to switch positions. They do it to try and surprise or catch out the opponent. And I saw Greenwood play up top for large parts of the game. Didn't you? Mata didn't play well no but neither did Greenwood, Gomes, Fred, Matic or Rashford. Williams was one of the worst performers the first half too.
That was the problem though, no shape or rhythm at all. The rough line up was Gomes on the left, James ST, and Greenwood on the right. All playing out of their natural best position.
At least Pogba is under contract until 2021. Keep him until the very last day.
We endeavored to give them a hard game
No it wasn't. The problem was the players couldn't even do the basics right, like pass a ball to a teammate or control a ball. And I bet Greenwood played more as a striker than as a winger. Another problem was our off the ball movement.
Until this last match, I was all for giving him time, provided he starts learning quickly.
Given that he seemingly has no intention of doing so, any potential upside isn't worth what we're witnessing right now.
With that said, I think he needs to leave as soon as possible since the season is still very salvageable and every point matters. Especially with our rivals being uncharacteristically weak, we need to take advantage and aim for a Europa League win and/or top 4 spot.
Ole on current form will offer neither.
Given that he seemingly has no intention of doing so, any potential upside isn't worth what we're witnessing right now.
With that said, I think he needs to leave as soon as possible since the season is still very salvageable and every point matters. Especially with our rivals being uncharacteristically weak, we need to take advantage and aim for a Europa League win and/or top 4 spot.
Ole on current form will offer neither.
Could you please detail this “plan” Ole has going forward? I really want to know what it is.
All I see is a team void of any tactical nous, of any attacking prowess, and of any plan.
Why is it acceptable for a manager to take over a squad, control a transfer window, and make the team WORSE?!
There is no way if we’d have brought, for example, Lampard in at the same time as Ole, that people on here would be cutting him anywhere near this amount of slack.
Sentiment is clouding people’s sanity. And those who are calling Ole out for what he really is, a terrible terrible manager, are the ones being accused of losing the plot.
No shots on target against this team tonight? No away wins in 10? Not more than one goal scored in however many games? 10th in the table? 25% win ratio?
It beggars belief.
The manager turned down both those players you said we needed yet it isn’t the manager (in caps)?
Holy shit long wait then
His interviews sound like his pretending to be a manager
.End of the season??? Just the thought of so many games under Ole makes me want to cry. He is worse than Moyes.
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