I think we're giving up on Williams rather then Shaw. Shaw and Telles are like night and day. It's like comparing Ji Sung Park with Nani. I think Williams will now move to RB to cover/compete with AWB. Dalot will be sold
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Shaw will and should remain first choice.
We haven’t. It’s obvious Williams is planned as RB cover.
I just think Shaw is not as good as most fans think he is. Didn't Jose do that infamous press conference where he said he had to tell Shaw where to stand. I think he was out of order Jose, but I dont rate Luke Shaw as a left back..Yes mate Tierney and Robertson are better than Shaw.
I rate shaw but I don’t rate his fitness. A LB is a must. If this guy can stay fit and contribute in attack, we’ll already be in a better position.
A Bola were the first ones to report this I think a couple of days ago.
It doesn't matter if he is better or not than Shaw when Shaw is not fit half of the time. Thing is, if we don't sign anyone, Shaw is our left back only for half of the season, with the other half being Williams or TMF or whoever is available. If Telles is only as good as Shaw, then by virtue of him being always fit, he would be a massive upgrade.
I think so. Telles had once said that he's better defensively now then when he joined Inter. Mancini had worked alot on his defensive skills. However if he's going to bomb forward then he'll leave space behind that needs to be covered. Add to the fact that Ole just came out saying that VDB can play with both Pogba and Bruno then expect the defence to have its hand full. Unless of course we're reverting to some sort of diamond 4-4-2 with Matic-VDB-Pogba-Bruno in midfield and Martial & Rashy/Greenwood upfront.
I arranged it so there's no misunderstanding. For the record I agree fully with you
Wouldn't use Jose as a stick to beat Luke Shaw when he's the Same one that said "now you see why Lukaku"
I wish we would sign a left back that can actually put in a whipped, dangerous cross. We already struggle with AWB on the right.
I think we have two very good defenders at fullback. AWB is one of the best defensive players in the world I think. However, a team is limited massively when both fullbacks are defensive. Ole has clearly identified AWB as the better defender and therefore concluded that it’s the left side where we need an attacking option at fullback. Would be very good business in my opinion if we can bring an attacking LB in.
Why would we give up on him immediately after signing him to a big contract?
The boy we've recently given a shiny new contract to? Yeah that doesn't really seem very likely. You might have given up on him, which is madness, but I very much doubt the club has.
Still seems like giving up on him as a LB. Wouldn't be surprised if William's is considered backup RB, if Telles or another LB is signed.
Probably Sandro.who's the third name on the list? Just so I know how to react to the Telles news
Read the full post mate
I think Williams will now move to RB to cover/compete with AWB. Dalot will be sold
Next time I will, I promise. Fair enough. Night night.
He's from the same club?!?! Then he MUST be terrible!Ah so this is the 2020 equivalent signing of Dalot, even from the same club as him no less
The 2018 repeat summer is complete
Feck this club
So, apparently, we've agreed terms with Telles? Like how we've agreed terms with Sancho..?
Until someone says we've agreed terms with Porto I ain't paying this s-t any mind.
Until someone says we've agreed terms with Porto I ain't paying this s-t any mind.
That twitter thread is quite good, main take away for me is that he, like bruno, is always looking for a risky pass. could benefit if we can get our movement in behind right, and VDB will help a lot there the days he is far forward
That's fair, a back up LB is definitely a priority and much needed. My point is that Telles isn't worth €20 million with a year left on his contract, his goal/penalty numbers have exaggerated his value. Liverpool have just signed Thiago in the same circumstances for a slightly higher amount. It'd be frustrating to see us to give in to such a deal, when there's a chance we're turning down the opportunity to sign a potentially world class player in a position we've been starved for so long because of finances, that's all.
Whom are you talking about?
I don't think Telles is gonna be backup. Even if he is slightly worse than Shaw, partnerships are important in defense (as is having an attacking fullback with AWB being crap at attacking).
He agreed a 5 year contract with us, which is handy because it will take Ed 5 years to reach an agreement with Porto for the fee.
I wouldn’t believe any speculation that comes out of Portugal.
Clubs link is every year with the latest hyped player. For every Ronaldo and Bruno there are a dozen crap players who aren’t good enough, but hyped up.
Telles vs Chilwell
https://www.thechelseachronicle.com...ft-back-targets-ben-chilwell-and-alex-telles/
Defensively, Chilwell is slightly better than Telles. Chilwell won more tackles per game (1.6 to Telles’ 1.2), more clearances per game (2 to 1.2) and more headers (2.2 to 1.7).
Meanwhile, Telles had the edge in interceptions (1.5 per game to Chilwell’s 1.1) and in facing advancing opponents (Telles was dribbled past 0.7 times per game on average to Chilwell’s one per game).
Telles provided more crosses per game (2.3 to Chilwell’s 0.7), more key passes per game (2 to 1.2) and had more shots per game (1.4 to 0.6) this season.
I do not know much about Telles except that he has been talked about for years and is still at Porto.
This makes me concerned - he is more of a progressive crosser/passer than a progressive runner
https://www.thechelseachronicle.com...ft-back-targets-ben-chilwell-and-alex-telles/
Defensively, Chilwell is slightly better than Telles. Chilwell won more tackles per game (1.6 to Telles’ 1.2), more clearances per game (2 to 1.2) and more headers (2.2 to 1.7).
Meanwhile, Telles had the edge in interceptions (1.5 per game to Chilwell’s 1.1) and in facing advancing opponents (Telles was dribbled past 0.7 times per game on average to Chilwell’s one per game).
Telles provided more crosses per game (2.3 to Chilwell’s 0.7), more key passes per game (2 to 1.2) and had more shots per game (1.4 to 0.6) this season.
Agree about needing an attacking fullback especially against the low block.
I do not know much about Telles except that he has been talked about for years and is still at Porto.
This makes me concerned - he is more of a progressive crosser/passer than a progressive runner
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I think that's pretty much the plan with Laird also offering potential in the next couple of seasons.
Does it matter? Bruno - who is only one year younger - was at Sporting until we signed him this January.Telles vs Chilwell
Defensively, Chilwell is slightly better than Telles. Chilwell won more tackles per game (1.6 to Telles’ 1.2), more clearances per game (2 to 1.2) and more headers (2.2 to 1.7).
Meanwhile, Telles had the edge in interceptions (1.5 per game to Chilwell’s 1.1) and in facing advancing opponents (Telles was dribbled past 0.7 times per game on average to Chilwell’s one per game).
Telles provided more crosses per game (2.3 to Chilwell’s 0.7), more key passes per game (2 to 1.2) and had more shots per game (1.4 to 0.6) this season.
Agree about needing an attacking fullback especially against the low block.
I do not know much about Telles except that he has been talked about for years and is still at Porto.
This makes me concerned - he is more of a progressive crosser/passer than a progressive runner
I ain't sure that these transfers are related. Worst case, we can take a hit on Smalling and sell him for 3m less than what we wanted, in order to fund Telles' transfer.
Do we have any Porto fans in here?
It would be nice if they were as positive as SCP fans were about Bruno.
I'm not saying they're directly related, I'm just saying it'd be frustrating to see us spend €20 million on Telles with a year left on his contract, a bad value for money deal, whilst turning down to opportunity to sign Sancho, a good value for money deal.
Let's just hope that it's at least closer to compete than cover.
@SportingCP96 Give us your opinion on the player too mate..
He seems to be dangerous with set pieces aswell. I'm all for this for the stated prices.
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