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Back to the old school straight KO this year and that will make for some crackers.

Already we had the first shock today. Monaghan beaten by Cavan AET by a last minute score. Brilliant.

I think its going to be a Final of Kerry v Dublin or Ulster Champions.

Dublin - will canter through Leinster for sure.
The winner of Donegal v Tyrone face Dublin and either of them can beat Dublin this year.

Kerry will win Munster and Mayo or Galway in the west - I think it will be Mayo and then Kerry will have too much for Mayo/Galway.

I tip Kerry to go all the way this year. If it was a normal year I would have went with Dublin.
 

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That kick from the Cavan keeper was pure class under the pressure on him.
 

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Looking forward to both Ulster games today. Can't beat intercounty Championship football. The league is grand and all, but this is another level.
 

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The winner of Derry v Armagh is obviously going to win the All Ireland..
 

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The winner of Derry v Armagh is obviously going to win the All Ireland..
Great match to watch and put ya asleep.

Still celebrating the schooling we gave Davy and the yellow bellies here this morning

Match of the day will be Lim v Tipp later. I can't call it.
 

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Great match to watch and put ya asleep.

Still celebrating the schooling we gave Davy and the yellow bellies here this morning

Match of the day will be Lim v Tipp later. I can't call it.
1:27 to 0:17 is some stuffing alright.

I’d go for Tipp..
 

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Back to the old school straight KO this year and that will make for some crackers.

Already we had the first shock today. Monaghan beaten by Cavan AET by a last minute score. Brilliant.

I think its going to be a Final of Kerry v Dublin or Ulster Champions.

Dublin - will canter through Leinster for sure.
The winner of Donegal v Tyrone face Dublin and either of them can beat Dublin this year.

Kerry will win Munster and Mayo or Galway in the west - I think it will be Mayo and then Kerry will have too much for Mayo/Galway.

I tip Kerry to go all the way this year. If it was a normal year I would have went with Dublin.
Ahem, corcaigh abu, the taoiseach will be a happy man tonight his son in goal and all
 

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Ahem, corcaigh abu, the taoiseach will be a happy man tonight his son in goal and all
This is why I dont gamble :lol:

Kerry left it behind. They'll be kicking themselves.
Mayo will fancy themselves now to get to the final.

Some win for Meath
 

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Great win for Cork last night. Would love to see Meath or Kildare do something similar in Leinster but not much hope.

Mayo worth a few quid for the AI, if it’s every gonna happen it’d be in a year like this one. Paddy Durcan is some baller.
 

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Great win for Cork last night. Would love to see Meath or Kildare do something similar in Leinster but not much hope.

Mayo worth a few quid for the AI, if it’s every gonna happen it’d be in a year like this one. Paddy Durcan is some baller.
Meath will have to beat Dublin in the leinster final - I think they can definitely give Dublin a better game than last years showing but I just cant see them beating Dublin.

Dublin v Donegal
Cork/Tipp v Mayo

Mayo will fancy their chances now.
 

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Meath will have to beat Dublin in the leinster final - I think they can definitely give Dublin a better game than last years showing but I just cant see them beating Dublin.

Dublin v Donegal
Cork/Tipp v Mayo

Mayo will fancy their chances now.
Mayo still have to get over Galway which won’t be easy. Cork in a semi won’t be either but Mayo probably warm favourites to get to a final.
How dare you write off Armagh!! ;)
 

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Mayo still have to get over Galway which won’t be easy. Cork in a semi won’t be either but Mayo probably warm favourites to get to a final.
How dare you write off Armagh!! ;)
I work with a man from Keady and he never shuts up about 2002. :lol:
 

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The AI semi final in 2002 against us ( Dublin) was a good game. Great atmosphere that day

Roof still on the Nally, cage still on the hill.

Armaghs goal was dodgy - Whelans was a great strike!
Ray Cosgrove was one of my favorites at the time :(:(:(
Big Joe Kernan ! There must be a statue of him outside some diesel laundering plant at this point :wenger:


The Big Tree afterwards was epic!
 

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The AI semi final in 2002 against us ( Dublin) was a good game. Great atmosphere that day

Roof still on the Nally, cage still on the hill.

Armaghs goal was dodgy - Whelans was a great strike!
Ray Cosgrove was one of my favorites at the time :(:(:(
Big Joe Kernan ! There must be a statue of him outside some diesel laundering plant at this point :wenger:


The Big Tree afterwards was epic!
Jesus that was a tough one to take yesterday. Donegal obviously on another level but we showed no hunger at all after 15 minutes. Dubs will have a serious challenge in the semi final with them.
 

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Jesus that was a tough one to take yesterday. Donegal obviously on another level but we showed no hunger at all after 15 minutes. Dubs will have a serious challenge in the semi final with them.
Yeah they were good. There will only be a point either way in the semi assuming no major provincial shocks.

I fancy them to beat Dublin and to lose to them would be no shame. proper team.

Anyone but Mayo and in fairness if its 20 years until Dublin win again then so be it. The last 9 years have been great. Many great match days.
 

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Yeah they were good. There will only be a point either way in the semi assuming no major provincial shocks.

I fancy them to beat Dublin and to lose to them would be no shame. proper team.

Anyone but Mayo and in fairness if its 20 years until Dublin win again then so be it. The last 9 years have been great. Many great match days.
Hard to say where Dublin are at and we won’t know until the semi, should be a good one. Thought the one thing we did get right yesterday was Aidan Forker keeping Murphy relatively quiet. McCaffrey and Gavin are massive losses in their respective roles so yeah it’s going to be a close one.

Couldn’t begrudge that Mayo team an All Ireland in fairness, some absolute warriors of men and they really deserve one after coming so close so many times. Plus Paddy Durcan is an absolute joy to watch, one of my favourite players in the country at the minute.
 

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Hard to say where Dublin are at and we won’t know until the semi, should be a good one. Thought the one thing we did get right yesterday was Aidan Forker keeping Murphy relatively quiet. McCaffrey and Gavin are massive losses in their respective roles so yeah it’s going to be a close one.

Couldn’t begrudge that Mayo team an All Ireland in fairness, some absolute warriors of men and they really deserve one after coming so close so many times. Plus Paddy Durcan is an absolute joy to watch, one of my favourite players in the country at the minute.
Connacht final wasn't as close as scoreline suggest today. Mayo were in control but left themselves in danger by not pulling away. Walsh missed some kickable frees near the end.
Mayo will need to get better.

Dublin are not looking to sharp today. Fair few wides. Some of them shocking and some poor decisions. Laois started well but it's an 8 point gap heading to half time.
 

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This is a seriously pointless game
 

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Cavan - Holy Sh!t. didnt see that coming.

Dublin V Cavan
Tipp V Mayo.


Dublin blew Meath away - Cant see Cavan with another upset.
 

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Waterford Kilkenny'd Kilkenny. I didn't see it, but fair play to them. It sounds like they were dead and buried and destroyed KK in the 3rd quarter.

Galway Limerick today. Can't help but feeling foreboding :D It just doesn't feel like Galway's year.

Read an article today that the final is on Dec 13th and the date hit me. What a mad auld year.
 

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Cahill and Bevans are serious operators.

A more moronic, self-inflicted decision (the one to overlook them for the Tipperary job) you’re unlikely to find in sport.

Incredible.
 

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It’s a bit of a problem for the whole competition, when you think about it. What I don’t understand is how it took so long for Dublin to dominate, considering the relative populations.
Oh yeah, totally. The utter dominance probably casts a shade on all the other provincial titles right and diminishes them knowing the gulf between Dublin and everyone else.
 

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A brilliant win for Mayo yesterday which allows the media to build them up and sell this All-Ireland final as a contest, even though everyone knows it won't be.

Gaelic Football is in a particularly dark place at the minute in my opinion. Dublin are pulling away from the pack at an incredible rate. They will win 9 out of 10 All-Ireland's.


It is possible for this Kerry team next year or the year after to turn them over. But it would need to be at its absolute peak and catch Dublin on an off day. Kerry showed how far they are from Dublin with that defeat to Cork. Dublin would never be caught out like that by a team of Cork's quality. Not in a million years. Similarly, Donegal on their day might give Dublin a game. But Dublin would never be caught out by Cavan like Donegal were.

This Mayo team won't beat Dublin. I'd go as far as to say they can't beat Dublin. In fact, yesterday's result built Mayo up to the point where you can get even money on Dublin -4 or -5 in some places. That's an absolute steal for me. Dublin should beat that comfortably in my opinion.

I also don't want to take anything away from Dublin. They are an incredible team. They are awesome to watch. They have absolutely top class footballers all over the field. Proper footballers too. Not just corner backs who are top class corner backs, they have corner backs who could play anywhere on the field.


What does annoy me though is, how many former Dublin players won't even admit that there is a problem. They've won their All-Ireland medals. If anything, Dublin winning 6 in a row or 9 in 10 or 12 in 15 or whatever they end up doing, will devalue the medals they won. I know, it's your county, and you want to win, but the game as a spectacle is dying. The All-Ireland championship is on the way to becoming the same foregone conclusion that the Leinster championship already is.

I'm from a smaller county in Leinster but when I was growing up in the 90's, winning a Leinster title was a realistic ambition. We only won one in the 90's, but every year, you'd give yourself a chance if you came up against a Dublin, Meath or Kildare. No team was unbeatable. Now, there is no incentive to play for my county. There is nothing to achieve. The gap to Dublin is so insurmountable, that even with massive funding and impressive coaching structures, it would take decades to close the gap and that's if Dublin stood still.


I know, we hear the arguments that Dublin are the benchmark. It's up to other counties to get to that level. But I really think anyone that thinks that's possible is delusional. The advantages Dublin have are so insurmountable, that you effectively have to dis-advantage Dublin now, for the other Leinster counties to catch up. Dublin clubs have at least one (many have more) full time Games Promotion Officer. A fully trained up coach to guide coaching in your club; to up-skill coaches in your club; to coach children in the local schools and promote your club to them; to oversee the coaching going on at all levels of your club and to step in and take sessions with various teams, if they are not already specifically coaching one team/age group.

In my county we have four full time GPO's between 50 odd clubs. The cost of a full time coach is in the region of 30 grand a year. If a club can fund half of that, the GAA will fund the rest. So even aside from all the extra funding, the Dublin clubs with high numbers of members and better sponsorship opportunities are able to fund this. Small country clubs don’t have that 15k. One club in my county has recently set about employing a full time coach. They are a large town team and I think it’s a huge investment for them. But I think it’s a great move. In the last year that coach is in the primary schools every day and leading the coaching structures in the club in the evenings. It’s possible to see the benefits already.

But the reality is, it’s just not possible for most clubs. And that’s just one area where the rest of the country is miles behind the capital.

I also know that this comes across as moaning. But as someone who has been involved with coaching and administration at school, club and county level in my county, it’s so disheartening to see the effort being put in by a lot of really good people but the gap continuing to widen.

Don’t get me wrong, there have been mistakes in my county as a result of politics, incompetency or even people looking after their own interests and it’s important to get your house in order. But even the most orderly house in a smaller county, cannot compete with the current Dublin behemoth. It’s literally impossible in the current climate.
 

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A brilliant win for Mayo yesterday which allows the media to build them up and sell this All-Ireland final as a contest, even though everyone knows it won't be.

Gaelic Football is in a particularly dark place at the minute in my opinion. Dublin are pulling away from the pack at an incredible rate. They will win 9 out of 10 All-Ireland's.


It is possible for this Kerry team next year or the year after to turn them over. But it would need to be at its absolute peak and catch Dublin on an off day. Kerry showed how far they are from Dublin with that defeat to Cork. Dublin would never be caught out like that by a team of Cork's quality. Not in a million years. Similarly, Donegal on their day might give Dublin a game. But Dublin would never be caught out by Cavan like Donegal were.

This Mayo team won't beat Dublin. I'd go as far as to say they can't beat Dublin. In fact, yesterday's result built Mayo up to the point where you can get even money on Dublin -4 or -5 in some places. That's an absolute steal for me. Dublin should beat that comfortably in my opinion.

I also don't want to take anything away from Dublin. They are an incredible team. They are awesome to watch. They have absolutely top class footballers all over the field. Proper footballers too. Not just corner backs who are top class corner backs, they have corner backs who could play anywhere on the field.


What does annoy me though is, how many former Dublin players won't even admit that there is a problem. They've won their All-Ireland medals. If anything, Dublin winning 6 in a row or 9 in 10 or 12 in 15 or whatever they end up doing, will devalue the medals they won. I know, it's your county, and you want to win, but the game as a spectacle is dying. The All-Ireland championship is on the way to becoming the same foregone conclusion that the Leinster championship already is.

I'm from a smaller county in Leinster but when I was growing up in the 90's, winning a Leinster title was a realistic ambition. We only won one in the 90's, but every year, you'd give yourself a chance if you came up against a Dublin, Meath or Kildare. No team was unbeatable. Now, there is no incentive to play for my county. There is nothing to achieve. The gap to Dublin is so insurmountable, that even with massive funding and impressive coaching structures, it would take decades to close the gap and that's if Dublin stood still.


I know, we hear the arguments that Dublin are the benchmark. It's up to other counties to get to that level. But I really think anyone that thinks that's possible is delusional. The advantages Dublin have are so insurmountable, that you effectively have to dis-advantage Dublin now, for the other Leinster counties to catch up. Dublin clubs have at least one (many have more) full time Games Promotion Officer. A fully trained up coach to guide coaching in your club; to up-skill coaches in your club; to coach children in the local schools and promote your club to them; to oversee the coaching going on at all levels of your club and to step in and take sessions with various teams, if they are not already specifically coaching one team/age group.

In my county we have four full time GPO's between 50 odd clubs. The cost of a full time coach is in the region of 30 grand a year. If a club can fund half of that, the GAA will fund the rest. So even aside from all the extra funding, the Dublin clubs with high numbers of members and better sponsorship opportunities are able to fund this. Small country clubs don’t have that 15k. One club in my county has recently set about employing a full time coach. They are a large town team and I think it’s a huge investment for them. But I think it’s a great move. In the last year that coach is in the primary schools every day and leading the coaching structures in the club in the evenings. It’s possible to see the benefits already.

But the reality is, it’s just not possible for most clubs. And that’s just one area where the rest of the country is miles behind the capital.

I also know that this comes across as moaning. But as someone who has been involved with coaching and administration at school, club and county level in my county, it’s so disheartening to see the effort being put in by a lot of really good people but the gap continuing to widen.

Don’t get me wrong, there have been mistakes in my county as a result of politics, incompetency or even people looking after their own interests and it’s important to get your house in order. But even the most orderly house in a smaller county, cannot compete with the current Dublin behemoth. It’s literally impossible in the current climate.
Just want to acknowledge all this and say I didn't think it was moaning :D
 

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A brilliant win for Mayo yesterday which allows the media to build them up and sell this All-Ireland final as a contest, even though everyone knows it won't be.

Gaelic Football is in a particularly dark place at the minute in my opinion. Dublin are pulling away from the pack at an incredible rate. They will win 9 out of 10 All-Ireland's.


It is possible for this Kerry team next year or the year after to turn them over. But it would need to be at its absolute peak and catch Dublin on an off day. Kerry showed how far they are from Dublin with that defeat to Cork. Dublin would never be caught out like that by a team of Cork's quality. Not in a million years. Similarly, Donegal on their day might give Dublin a game. But Dublin would never be caught out by Cavan like Donegal were.

This Mayo team won't beat Dublin. I'd go as far as to say they can't beat Dublin. In fact, yesterday's result built Mayo up to the point where you can get even money on Dublin -4 or -5 in some places. That's an absolute steal for me. Dublin should beat that comfortably in my opinion.

I also don't want to take anything away from Dublin. They are an incredible team. They are awesome to watch. They have absolutely top class footballers all over the field. Proper footballers too. Not just corner backs who are top class corner backs, they have corner backs who could play anywhere on the field.


What does annoy me though is, how many former Dublin players won't even admit that there is a problem. They've won their All-Ireland medals. If anything, Dublin winning 6 in a row or 9 in 10 or 12 in 15 or whatever they end up doing, will devalue the medals they won. I know, it's your county, and you want to win, but the game as a spectacle is dying. The All-Ireland championship is on the way to becoming the same foregone conclusion that the Leinster championship already is.

I'm from a smaller county in Leinster but when I was growing up in the 90's, winning a Leinster title was a realistic ambition. We only won one in the 90's, but every year, you'd give yourself a chance if you came up against a Dublin, Meath or Kildare. No team was unbeatable. Now, there is no incentive to play for my county. There is nothing to achieve. The gap to Dublin is so insurmountable, that even with massive funding and impressive coaching structures, it would take decades to close the gap and that's if Dublin stood still.


I know, we hear the arguments that Dublin are the benchmark. It's up to other counties to get to that level. But I really think anyone that thinks that's possible is delusional. The advantages Dublin have are so insurmountable, that you effectively have to dis-advantage Dublin now, for the other Leinster counties to catch up. Dublin clubs have at least one (many have more) full time Games Promotion Officer. A fully trained up coach to guide coaching in your club; to up-skill coaches in your club; to coach children in the local schools and promote your club to them; to oversee the coaching going on at all levels of your club and to step in and take sessions with various teams, if they are not already specifically coaching one team/age group.

In my county we have four full time GPO's between 50 odd clubs. The cost of a full time coach is in the region of 30 grand a year. If a club can fund half of that, the GAA will fund the rest. So even aside from all the extra funding, the Dublin clubs with high numbers of members and better sponsorship opportunities are able to fund this. Small country clubs don’t have that 15k. One club in my county has recently set about employing a full time coach. They are a large town team and I think it’s a huge investment for them. But I think it’s a great move. In the last year that coach is in the primary schools every day and leading the coaching structures in the club in the evenings. It’s possible to see the benefits already.

But the reality is, it’s just not possible for most clubs. And that’s just one area where the rest of the country is miles behind the capital.

I also know that this comes across as moaning. But as someone who has been involved with coaching and administration at school, club and county level in my county, it’s so disheartening to see the effort being put in by a lot of really good people but the gap continuing to widen.

Don’t get me wrong, there have been mistakes in my county as a result of politics, incompetency or even people looking after their own interests and it’s important to get your house in order. But even the most orderly house in a smaller county, cannot compete with the current Dublin behemoth. It’s literally impossible in the current climate.
Agree with you and I'm from Dublin.
Im not even a slight bit apprehensive about tomorrow. If we win its Meh. If we lose its meh.
Its not fun anymore. Its great to watch the good players do their thing but its just ridiculous now.

Ive no idea how it gets fixed either.
The fact that Dublin GAA have now found the formula to leverage the population advantage is ominous. Dublin GAA are now self sufficient. Scary thought.
 

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Very dominant performance from Limerick yesterday. Probably saved their best performance of the year for yesterday.

Really felt for Waterford. They were up against it from the off and then losing Tadgh De Burca early on was a real blow. Limerick never really let them get going.

Limerick must still be kicking themselves over that first half against Kilkenny last year in the semi final. This team really should have three in a row.
 

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Anyone giving Mayo a prayer today? Seen a tweet there that the Dubs have more of a back room team than United. Crazy stuff.
I’m going for a Mayo win against all logic for no other reason than it’s 2020 so why the hell not.