Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch

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I don't understand why PSG are so fragile. There's something about their dressing room culture or spirit that's off. Maybe the CL thing has become too much of a desperation and seen off many managers, that it's taken its toll.
Same reason we were/are. Ole came in to a bunch of pussies and he even said himself it was mainly about changing the culture in the room.
In other words, its the subconscious mentality within the whole squad
 

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Still a better manager than Ole. Which is clearly what all this hate boils down to, if we're all being honest with ourselves.
You guys are incapable of responding to any criticism of Poch without bringing Ole into it. Do you post on r/OleOut, perchance?
 

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Still a better manager than Ole. Which is clearly what all this hate boils down to, if we're all being honest with ourselves.
I'm still not full convinced that Ole is going to win us a title/CL any time soon but there's not much evidence to suggest Poch would be doing better or have us any closer himself. If there is please enlighten.
 

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Didn't want him here because he can't seem to win a title. But people are acting like City have a 3-0 lead
Yes, PSG can come back. But usually City can pass and pass and come up with the 0-0 if needed. So it is going to be super tough for PSG to get the ball.

But more importantly, the way PSG lost it yesterday and the way they reacted after 2 fluke goals, reflects very poorly on the team's composure and as a result, reflects poorly on their coach.
 

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Still a better manager than Ole. Which is clearly what all this hate boils down to, if we're all being honest with ourselves.
Never ever proved but sure, try to make us understand why.

What have this mega-superduper - galactic - elite manager done in his career that he can put in trophy room?
 

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Just think what PSG will look like with Mbappe at another team? If he leaves it will be interesting to see who they splash the money at?
 

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If FFP is dead, PSG can go on a mad spending spree again right? I think they’re capped at £50m a season currently
 

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Poch got to a CL final, but Ole is about to finish higher in the PL than Poch ever did, neither won anything but that evens out. Ole has also won league titles, granted not in a big league but he has achieved still won a lot more than Poch.

The only thing Poch has won is the French Super Cup which was one game that he didn't even get them to in the first place.

I really don't see the hype with Poch at all.
Did I miss something are we winning the league this season?
 

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Don't know much about Bakker, so thought I'd check the consensus amongst PSG fans. Found this. :lol:
 

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Don't know much about Bakker, so thought I'd check the consensus amongst PSG fans. Found this. :lol:
He is young and clearly has qualities but he isn't ready for that level and he may never be ready.
 

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Yeah I can definitely agree with that too. I'm not going to lie a couple of rolls of the ball the right way and PSG were out of sight. I still give them a slight chance in the return leg. I actually like the kind of contrast because you can hear people screaming for us to be able to 'dominate' these type of games but in reality perhaps we can become the perfect counter to teams like City and Bayern by finding the right players to destroy their football by perfecting the countering game (although that team would obviously have to be able to dominate the likes of Burnley in a different way).
Yeah I think that would make for a really exciting contrast.

To "dominate" City you'd have to join in the passing for the sake of it mentality . Five passes when one could do it. I think two teams doing that would be incredibly boring to watch.

I like what PSG did last night in the first half. No idea why Poch is getting stick. Who outplays City like that? Then nothing he can do about his goalkeeper.
 

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Yeah I can definitely agree with that too. I'm not going to lie a couple of rolls of the ball the right way and PSG were out of sight. I still give them a slight chance in the return leg. I actually like the kind of contrast because you can hear people screaming for us to be able to 'dominate' these type of games but in reality perhaps we can become the perfect counter to teams like City and Bayern by finding the right players to destroy their football by perfecting the countering game (although that team would obviously have to be able to dominate the likes of Burnley in a different way).
I think that it is why many people loved the way Bayern and Dortmund played pre 2013. They were the perfect counter to Barcelona tiki taka and Real Madrid blistering counter attacks.
 

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To be fair: it's not Navas fault that DeBryune had all the time in the world to make that perfect cross - which is especially surprising since it's one of the textbook situations of how City likes to score.
Second goal isn't on Navas but mostly Kimpembe (partly Paredes) for chickening out big time and to some degree to the headless chicken approach PSG went for after conceding the equalizer which resulted in multiple fouls in bad positions and they ultimately even lucked out that City didn't punish Gueye's red-card (see = headless chicken).

Psg might as well win the second leg but overall they're just as patchy as they were since the start of the season - except that they now don't have those never ending injuries/red-cards (lol)/ covid-cases as excuses anymore.
 

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I'm still not full convinced that Ole is going to win us a title/CL any time soon but there's not much evidence to suggest Poch would be doing better or have us any closer himself. If there is please enlighten.
Just from watching the football his teams play. Spurs and United aren't even comparable, given the vast amount we've spent on our teams and the number of players that cost £50, 60, 70, 80, 90 million at our disposal.
 

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Just from watching the football his teams play. Spurs and United aren't even comparable, given the vast amount we've spent on our teams and the number of players that cost £50, 60, 70, 80, 90 million at our disposal.
And his football at PSG? Its not easy getting big names on board, its why he gradually lost the dressing room at Spurs when their egos grew.
Ole gets unfair stick for the money jibe, his first choice front 3 didnt cost the club a penny
 

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Poch fans seem to say that the reason he won nothing at Spurs is because he didnt get the spend needed yet in his final summer with Spurs he finally did get to spend big and the team actually went backwards after this.
And his ethos of trophies being for the ego etc and repeated bottling of the biggest games does not bode well for managing the very top clubs where silverware is expected.
Suits Spurs type clubs for me
 

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He is but Bakker and Florenzi are the equivalent of free samples.
I guess PSG didn't want to spend money on a LB since when Bernat is fit again, he will bring back the quality to that positiion.
As for the RB position, it's a position that having a worldwide drought in terms of talent: not many talented RBs available on the market, unless you gamble on rough diamonds.
 

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I guess PSG didn't want to spend money on a LB since when Bernat is fit again, he will bring back the quality to that positiion.
As for the RB position, it's a position that having a worldwide drought in terms of talent: not many talented RBs available on the market, unless you gamble on rough diamonds.
Stopped watching PSG on a regular basis mid-season but until then Florenzi was quite the man. Bakker is a solid mid-table LB I guess - seemed always a bit more terrified by his (superstar) teammates instead of opponents. I guess it's not that easy to establish yourself as a (regular) talent besides Neymar and Mbappé.
 

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Stopped watching PSG on a regular basis mid-season but until then Florenzi was quite the man. Bakker is a solid mid-table LB I guess - seemed always a bit more terrified by his (superstar) teammates instead of opponents. I guess it's not that easy to establish yourself as a (regular) talent besides Neymar and Mbappé.
Florenzi is quite decent, tbh. People are blaming the defenders for a poor judgement from Navas and a lucky free kick by Mahrez. PSG played well and deserved more.
 

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Florenzi is quite decent, tbh. People are blaming the defenders for a poor judgement from Navas and a lucky free kick by Mahrez. PSG played well and deserved more.
Florenzi had a severe injury at Roma (?) I think which took him off the radar - I didn't know about him - and he's quite "old" so not a real flair player but offensively he's great imho. Very solid, good passing/shooting technique and his crosses are very good. Bakker can cross sharp and precise as well only he's rarely given/taking the opportunity because it's always Ney or Kylian taking over at the final third. I thought he was doing good under Tuchel given the circumstances - but he's extra risk averse which makes him look timid - I think he can come good in a more healthy environment with a little less expectations/pressure.

A draw would have been a fair result maybe. But City didn't look as badly balanced in their bad phase within the first half as PSG looked completely outta control at times in the second half. Will be an interesting second leg.
 

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Pochettino can't be blamed for PSG being behind against City. However, his team is playing as though they have never watched a Man City defeat. I am not, nor will I ever be, the coach that Pochettino is. However, I can tell you from seeing us and Chelsea and Leeds beat City lately that, if you want to have a chance, you gotta maximise your opportunities on transition. His attackers' tendecy to slow it down, give City time to get back in numbers and compress space is killing PSG. If, after half time, we don't see evidence of PSG dawdling less and being more direct you have to question his reputation for tactics and patterns of play.
 

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@Amadaeus not been online since the first leg.... will he reappear tonight....
he’s standing outside the etihad, fangirl screaming at the top of his lungs. that’s not snow on the pitch, he just caught a glimpse of maurice getting off the team coach and climaxed.
 

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What's "chubby fraud" in French? According to Google Translate it's fraude potelée
 

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Nothing changed about PSG's approach at halftime. Nothing.

People will say Poch had X, Y and Z injured. However, does he have less at his disposal than Bielsa did when Leeds beat City with 10 men?

City aren't just winning, they're winning with ease. Hasn't managed the situation at all.

Losing to a Guardiola team isn't a crime. Yet playing into their hands, letting them defend compact and press you without going direct and trying to hit them on the transition? There's blame in that and a lot has to fall on Poch.
 
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