Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

[tomaldinho1]

This is not fanboy stuff. I just think that we are far better team with Pogba and that he would be hard to replace.
If we will win PL with Jones and Lingard in midfield then great.

I personally think we should be a better team with him but it's also fair, in my mind, to think it's very possible we could sell him and replace him with someone not as 'good' individually but who makes us better overall.

Ole's midfield system is two defensive CMs, ball winners and then ball carriers when needed with Bruno free in front of them. Pogba can't fit into that CM role (probably to the detriment of our style of play but this isn't an Ole In/out thread) and Bruno is better in this setup than him, hence why he's been in this weird LW slot. Essentially he can't dislodge the three first choice CMs and since Rashford's form nosedived LW is up for grabs and we slotted him in there. Bear in mind if we had a really good LW, Pogba might well just have been benched for most of this year.

If you asked me would I want Pogba in my team in general, than yes of course I would but in this team, specifically this tactical setup, he has struggled since forever for consistency.

 

[sugar_kane]

He'll be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Veron, for better or worse

No player post Fergie has done anything on the pitch to warrant a all time fan favourite tag imo

Probably one for another thread, but surely Bruno is there if not very close?

Would argue Zlatan sealed it as well, and probably Martial despite him being terrible all of last season (that's what scoring on your debut vs. Liverpool will do for your cult status....)

I think both Luke and Harry will also get there but not yet.

 

[Escobar]

This is not fanboy stuff. I just think that we are far better team with Pogba and that he would be hard to replace.
If we will win PL with Jones and Lingard in midfield then great.

People think Pogba adds nothing. We will miss him, even though he is far from the perfect player. If we lose him, we need to invest again. And there is no chance Saul or any of these players will be as good

 

[Judas]

Probably one for another thread, but surely Bruno is there if not very close?

Would argue Zlatan sealed it as well, and probably Martial despite him being terrible all of last season (that's what scoring on your debut vs. Liverpool will do for your cult status....)

I think both Luke and Harry will also get there but not yet.

Bruno still has a way to go, but he's going in the right direction, same for Shaw and Maguire. Zlatan no, Martial are you having a laugh?

 

[romufc]

Let’s sell Maguire, Shaw, Bruno & the rest of the senior squad. . .

What a stupid point to make.

I'm sorry but he is holding the club to hostage.. why would you want such a player at the club?

He got offered 350k a week, he wants 450k.... What has he done to even deserve the 350k?

 

[Highfather_24]

We can't get a decent performance out of him.

I dont understand how people can watch us play all the time, and still think Pogba isnt one of our better performers. Last season he was among our best players along with Shaw, Bruno, Maguire and Cavani. Stats also bear that out : in the whoscored rating, he is #4 behind Bruno, AWB and Rashford and he is followed by Maguire and Shaw.

Is he inconsistent sometimes? Yes. But that doesnt negate the previous point. He also had an excellent euros. He is not this shitty midfielder that people make him out to be(nor is he a worldbeater), he is among our better players.

However he doesnt really fit in our system, so he should go. He will go to a team that plays 4-3-3, and play brilliantly. I'm sure of it.

 

[charlenefan]

Probably one for another thread, but surely Bruno is there if not very close?

Would argue Zlatan sealed it as well, and probably Martial despite him being terrible all of last season (that's what scoring on your debut vs. Liverpool will do for your cult status....)

I think both Luke and Harry will also get there but not yet.

Bruno's probably the one who's most on his way, they'll all be hero's if they win us back the title

 

[RUCK4444]

I dont understand how people can watch us play all the time, and still think Pogba isnt one of our better performers. Last season he was among our best players along with Shaw, Bruno, Maguire and Cavani. Stats also bear that out : in the whoscored rating, he is #4 behind Bruno, AWB and Rashford and he is followed by Maguire and Shaw.

Is he inconsistent sometimes? Yes. But that doesnt negate the previous point. He also had an excellent euros. He is not this shitty midfielder that people make him out to be(nor is he a worldbeater), he is among our better players.

However he doesnt really fit in our system, so he should go. He will go to a team that plays 4-3-3, and play brilliantly. I'm sure of it.

Because their opinion is agenda driven.

They don’t like him so they create their own version of events.

 

[Infra-red]

This window has potential to be best in ages. Rw, world class defender, attacking right full back. But if we lose Paul then our central midfield becomes midtable at best. We just can't afford to lose Pogba (despite all the talks how good/bad he was for us). He is top and unique midfielder.

My opinion is that Pogba is not Bruno/Modric type of player; someone who makes team better on his own. Pogba is type of player who plays the best when he is in top squad. He is lets say cherry on top.
And now our squad will be great next season so he will be too.

Yeah, if we lose him i will be (football wise) devastated.

He has a year left on his deal and has rejected a new contract. It's not a case of "losing him" this summer - selling him is the best outcome for us now and would be a win for the club. It's either that or he leaves on a free transfer (for the second time!).

 

[Adisa]

PSG will leave this till the end of the window then lowball us.

 

[Bastian]

PSG will leave this till the end of the window then lowball us.

Would make sense for them to do so. Can we spend on a midfielder(s) in anticipation of that is the question.

 

[NotoriousISSY]

I'm sorry but he is holding the club to hostage.. why would you want such a player at the club?

He got offered 350k a week, he wants 450k.... What has he done to even deserve the 350k?

I'm not suggesting he is worth it, but as one of the Top 10 most marketable players in the world (has more followers on Social media than Manchester United), he has plenty of room to negotiate a 'highest paid' kind of deal wherever he goes.

No one can say he doesn't deliver on the pitch. He has clear strengths and obviously some limitations, but all things considered he is certainly one of the most gifted midfielders in the current game.

Put the 'influencer' status next to his obvious football ability and indeed he is worth the money for clubs, because like it or not, the influencer/social media concept is a ridiculously large tool for bringing in the money. Players surround themselves with agents who quantify this and as such they want and justify a slice of the cake.

Why are La Liga so keen for Messi to stay, even on stupidly high record breaking wages? Because he brings eyes to the screen everytime he plays. On a lesser scale for sure, Pogba absolutely does the same.

I don't like the way it works, and it simply highlights how different a product football is now to how it was in my youth.

 

[LoneStar]

Who is a good replacement that is currently available? Can't think of too many players.

 

[romufc]

Why are La Liga so keen for Messi to stay, even on stupidly high record breaking wages? Because he brings eyes to the screen everytime he plays. On a lesser scale for sure, Pogba absolutely does the same.

I don't like the way it works, and it simply highlights how different a product football is now to how it was in my youth.

I agree on the influencer theory, he is marketable but we have also just signed Sancho who is just as marketable. Sancho is not just a big buy on the pitch but commercially just as big.

Pogba however; through his agent does disrespect the club, why would we want to pay those wages for someone who every 6 months will disrupt things?

Also, comparing Messi is not really fair, he delivers the good on the pitch, Pogba is talent and gift but what Messi does is no where near in comparison to Pogba. Messi scores, creates big goals, carries the Barca team in ways Pogba can't.

 

[Idxomer]

I dont understand how people can watch us play all the time, and still think Pogba isnt one of our better performers. Last season he was among our best players along with Shaw, Bruno, Maguire and Cavani. Stats also bear that out : in the whoscored rating, he is #4 behind Bruno, AWB and Rashford and he is followed by Maguire and Shaw.

Is he inconsistent sometimes? Yes. But that doesnt negate the previous point. He also had an excellent euros. He is not this shitty midfielder that people make him out to be(nor is he a worldbeater), he is among our better players.

However he doesnt really fit in our system, so he should go. He will go to a team that plays 4-3-3, and play brilliantly. I'm sure of it.

They include the period where he was getting over covid that skewed some of the stats against him to confirm their bias. In their minds, he didn't need any period of recovery and he should've gotten back to form right away.

 

[JJ12]

This is going to end up with Madrid getting Pogba, Mbappe and Camavinga for free next summer

 

[NotoriousISSY]

I agree on the influencer theory, he is marketable but we have also just signed Sancho who is just as marketable. Sancho is not just a big buy on the pitch but commercially just as big.

Pogba however; through his agent does disrespect the club, why would we want to pay those wages for someone who every 6 months will disrupt things?

Also, comparing Messi is not really fair, he delivers the good on the pitch, Pogba is talent and gift but what Messi does is no where near in comparison to Pogba. Messi scores, creates big goals, carries the Barca team in ways Pogba can't.

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting Pogba and Messi are comparable on delivery, but both clubs are desperate for them simply because they bring an audience who would move quite fluidly to another club if they were to transfer.

Sancho probably can be a commercially big hit, but he's still someway off Pogba in having that kind of audience. Definitely has the potential to be a proper household name though, no doubts.

On a personal note and how I see football, I'd rather we cut ties and that level of drama disappeared. But from a business perspective I can completely see why United will fight to keep him, even at a higher fixed cost than before. Also add in the Adidas factor and it keeps your highest yielding sponsor happy.

 

[smi11ie]

Clubs are too soft with players. Sign or leave now. If you stay and run your contract down then you won't play.

 

[Posh Red]

I dont understand how people can watch us play all the time, and still think Pogba isnt one of our better performers. Last season he was among our best players along with Shaw, Bruno, Maguire and Cavani. Stats also bear that out : in the whoscored rating, he is #4 behind Bruno, AWB and Rashford and he is followed by Maguire and Shaw.

Is he inconsistent sometimes? Yes. But that doesnt negate the previous point. He also had an excellent euros. He is not this shitty midfielder that people make him out to be(nor is he a worldbeater), he is among our better players.

However he doesnt really fit in our system, so he should go. He will go to a team that plays 4-3-3, and play brilliantly. I'm sure of it.

Feel exactly the same. I’ve said it before it’s like I’m watching different games to these people

 

[Andycoleno9]

People think Pogba adds nothing. We will miss him, even though he is far from the perfect player. If we lose him, we need to invest again. And there is no chance Saul or any of these players will be as good

People look at Pogba through assists and goals which is ridiculous. He is central midfielder (most of times even dmc) whos main job is to be playmaker. To start our attacks. Our general game with Pogba and without Pogba is day and night.

 

[Adisa]

Would make sense for them to do so. Can we spend on a midfielder(s) in anticipation of that is the question.

We can't

 

[romufc]

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting Pogba and Messi are comparable on delivery, but both clubs are desperate for them simply because they bring an audience who would move quite fluidly to another club if they were to transfer.

Sancho probably can be a commercially big hit, but he's still someway off Pogba in having that kind of audience. Definitely has the potential to be a proper household name though, no doubts.

On a personal note and how I see football, I'd rather we cut ties and that level of drama disappeared. But from a business perspective I can completely see why United will fight to keep him, even at a higher fixed cost than before. Also add in the Adidas factor and it keeps your highest yielding sponsor happy.

Yes, I agree commercially he is very big to us, he is a big asset for Addidas too.

If we look at it in football terms, he is a fantastic player but no one really knows what position we want him in which has cost us balance in the team over the years, one season we are building around Pogba and the next making signing that play in his role.. Can you blame Ole and the club though? As a manager you need to know which players you can trust. Ole began by trusting Pogba and then he was injured and his agent saying its done for Pogba which makes it hard for Ole to build for the future.

 

[laughtersassassin]

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[MattofManchester]

Who do you suggest we sign instead? Who do you think could come in, replace him, make our midfield better and turn us into contenders? Or are you suggesting relying on McFred to win titles?

A midfielder who balances out the team creatively and defensively.

Too many of you want to act like Pogba is some kind of holy grail which Manchester United will fall apart without.
Funny enough, you keep referencing McFred as if Pogba displaced either of them last season.
Nevermind Ole shoehorned him at LM because there's nowhere else we can trust him.

He can be sold. He's not irreplaceable. In fact, based on last season, he's not even that important to the club anymore.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

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Always been a top proffesional by all reports that don't stem from Jose.

Majority fans don't question his professionalism anyway so this is just an old news about Pogba.

 

[Idxomer]

Nevermind Ole shoehorned him at LM because there's nowhere else we can trust him.

He can be sold. He's not irreplaceable. In fact, based on last season, he's not even that important to the club anymore.

Yet Ole played him in the middle 26 times last season.

Every player is replaceable.

 

[El Jefe]

The sooner he leaves the happier I'll be. Five seasons on and we still have the same debates about him. We survived Ronaldo and RVN leaving, Pogba even will be an afterthought the day he leaves this club.

Amazing ability but not worth the hassle or wages IMO.

 

[Hackman2210]

We cant let him go for free but he's holding all the aces in my opinion. We'll end up selling him for £15mil in January at the rate and before he goes hes due £250k per week and can do nothing to earn it. Thats another |£6m + we'll spend. Just get him out now - no point in keeping unhappy players - I'm sure a part ex would be the best bet here. Varane for Pogba - has this not been suggested for fecks sake, it works for all parties doesnt it??

 

[Rilz]

We can only sell him now if we bring in a replacement that’s ready to go.

Varane and Sancho additions to our current squad are enough to challenge, so an option is to keep him and go all out for trophies this season and accept losing him on a free, ideally we would sell him and buy a ready made replacement now but I don’t see that happening

 

[romufc]

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I am not really surprised about this, what his agent says is completely different to how Paul actually is.

Lets not forget that Paul is actually mates with some of the players like Lingard, Rashford etc.. so he isn't going to be a bad influence.

 

[Adisa]

Majority fans don't question his professionalism anyway so this is just an old news about Pogba.

Fans question it everyday, don't you read the posts here?

 

[Adisa]

Hope we get this dons asap, so we can replace him sharpish.
I will miss watching him play.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Fans question it everyday, don't you read the posts here?

Fans questioned whether he can fit into the system, whether he is worth significant payrise, and his fatty agent.

 

[Sayros]

Majority fans don't question his professionalism anyway so this is just an old news about Pogba.

Are you not reading this forum much? I have to constantly remind people there aren't any instances outside of Mourinho where Pogba has been designated as a diva, unprofessional, social media-chasing bellend by any of the people he works with.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Are you not reading this forum much? I have to constantly remind people there aren't any instances outside of Mourinho where Pogba has been designated as a diva, unprofessional, social media-chasing bellend.

Quote me 5 at least then.

 

[Sayros]

Quote me 5 at least then.

I have to go to work in 15m, I'm not about to do homework, just look back the last few pages here and you'll find 5 without any issues, guaranteed.

 

[Borys]

I expect Pogba to be sold on the second day after we get Varane. It's likely to be the end of transfer window for us (in terms of first XI players). I think we need a CM badly, but not sure we're getting one, as I think Pogba funds are invested into Varane transfer.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

I have to go to work in 15m, I'm not about to do homework, just look back the last few pages here and you'll find 5 without any issues, guaranteed.

I just did and I saw nothing. Stop lying!!

 

[Leonzo1]

I love Paul Pogba, nothing against the guy and I think that in the right system he is one hell of a player. But The fact is that in 59 pages of this thread and countless others people still have no idea about where should he play. He just doesn't fit. He didn't fit with Mourinho and he does not fit with Ole either. He was tried in about 4 different positions with different players each season and something just doesn't click for him here. How can some folks keep making the argument that he is irreplaceable is beyond me. The guy played around 60% of our games last season and most of them were from LW. I would love it if we somehow managed to fit him in and still have a balanced team but I just don't see it. 5 years since he signed for us and it's the same argument since day one.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

Pogba is a box to box or the most advanced midfielder. In box to box we have Pogba, Fred, VdB, and Mctominay . In the advanced midfield or no.10 position we have Bruno and Pogba. So if Pogba leaves we should be looking to get a no 10 or advanced midfielder to give competition to Bruno because he would be the only one left that can play that role in the team. VdB was meant to be that player too but he looks better as a box to box in our system to me. Meaning we are still kind of fecked if Pogba is sold and Bruno gets injured imo. None of our remaining midfielders in VdB or Fred or Mctominay can provide that bite in attack that they do.

If Pogba leaves his replacement should be someone that can play in Bruno's position. Aouar Sabitzer are some names that can play there and are available for cheap. We would still need a DM since Matic is the only one we have.

VdB(Fred) Bruno(Sabitzer)
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