We need to have 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2 as an alternative formation. Hannibal then can play in it naturally.
The future of Hannibal Mejbri - will he get a real chance this season?
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Hey I just ate you
And this is crazy
My name is Hannibal
Don't call me Mejbri
And this is crazy
My name is Hannibal
Don't call me Mejbri
I assume the transfer window is still open for loans outside the PL? He probably needs a loan to Championship or an equivalent league abroad.
He needs to play against Spurs and face down their keeper.
'Is that Lloris? Well hello Lloris'
'Is that Lloris? Well hello Lloris'
I think he is one of those gems who don’t need a loan to find a breakthrough.
How has he performed for his NT?
Quality wise maybe, but the positions he plays (AM, false 9, LW) he won't get a sniff given the depth we have currently.
Because Lingard has stayed. I cant see it.
I think he could play next to Fred from time to time but not really in any high pressure games yet IMO. Ideally he'd get a chance on the wing but given our ludicrous number of left wingers it seems unlikely!
based on his performance on several appearances toward the end of the last season, I feel he can comfortably slot into either LM or RM in a midfield of three. if we continue playing double-pivot or a diamond of four, it is very hard for him, and also hard for VDB to get chances.
They don’t play the same position as far as I’m aware
We will be lucky if he gets 3 starts this year.
Don't understand why united insisted on 25 million for a soon out-of-contract Lingard. The fact that he played well for WH shouldn't have raised his value that much as it only confirms that's his level. Players like Lingard, Mata hanging around just seems a bit unnecessary when some of the youngsters are really rated.
I hope he does but it seems unlikely......
1) The main reason is simply we have failed miserably this summer in terms of moving players on. Our squad is bloated, its huge. There are quite a few that maybe should have been moved on to free up places for more opportunity on the bench for a couple of younger players. Matic, Mata, Lingard, Martial are the obvious names that limit the opportunities that mayu would have been possible at times for the likes of Hannibal, Garner, Amad, Elanga, Pellestri. Was only very late in the window we thankfully moved on James.
2) Pogba - With our attacking options now, it does seem likely Pogba will be moved back into midfield. Wrongly for me, we all know the arguments and good things and bad he brings to that role now really. But regardless of whether its good or bad him there....its obvviously one more midfielder and less opportunity for Hannibal
3) Lets not forget the simple fact, he is 18 years old and attacking or deep lying, how many teenagers in world football do we see playing and breakign through regularly in that position. Apart from the goalkeeper its possibly the toughest position so young
Ive seen enough of him to know I really like him but certainly not enough to make an informed opinion of just how good he is....but personally I would like to see more of him on the bench with the players we have in midfield and the technique he appears to have being very different to our other options. Its early days in the season so plenty of time, but for the reasons above, I dont see it happening this season
1) The main reason is simply we have failed miserably this summer in terms of moving players on. Our squad is bloated, its huge. There are quite a few that maybe should have been moved on to free up places for more opportunity on the bench for a couple of younger players. Matic, Mata, Lingard, Martial are the obvious names that limit the opportunities that mayu would have been possible at times for the likes of Hannibal, Garner, Amad, Elanga, Pellestri. Was only very late in the window we thankfully moved on James.
2) Pogba - With our attacking options now, it does seem likely Pogba will be moved back into midfield. Wrongly for me, we all know the arguments and good things and bad he brings to that role now really. But regardless of whether its good or bad him there....its obvviously one more midfielder and less opportunity for Hannibal
3) Lets not forget the simple fact, he is 18 years old and attacking or deep lying, how many teenagers in world football do we see playing and breakign through regularly in that position. Apart from the goalkeeper its possibly the toughest position so young
Ive seen enough of him to know I really like him but certainly not enough to make an informed opinion of just how good he is....but personally I would like to see more of him on the bench with the players we have in midfield and the technique he appears to have being very different to our other options. Its early days in the season so plenty of time, but for the reasons above, I dont see it happening this season
He won’t start one game this season
It’s enough to name Pedri and Bellingham. There is also Camavinga.
You do need to play at professional level on a weekly basis at 18 years old. It's rare for players to become anything when it's not the case, there are known exceptions but they are not to be used as models.
I’m not sure about that. Pogba was 19 when he signed for Juve. He was the first player I thought of so there are surely plenty more. Especially late developers.
Doesn’t the fact you can name only 3 tell you something?
Even Dortmund have suffered over the last year by giving Bellingham minutes, the amount of times their midfield has been swamped has been a real problem for them and Camavinga is coming off a poor season
It's not that weird in the context of it being United. The club have had the bloated squad issue for years with players either surplus to requirements or not good enough. Admittedly Solskjaer has done reasonably ok clearing out some of the during his tenure but there is still plenty stinking out the place.
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Didn't I mention that there were known exceptions? And Pogba had turned 19 a few months before moving to Juventus. If you want me to say 18-19 years old it's fine, the point is the same, players need to play at a professional level around that age. Mejbri turns 19 in january it's not really a period where you expect him to play at a semi-pro level.
Needs a loan
I don’t disagree with your general point. If Mjebri isn’t playing regular professional football either this season or next then that’s a problem.
Exactly, it will be a huge problem.
Probably pushing for a loan after Xmas if he’s not been used here at all. Fair enough. Championship would be a really good start for him, hopefully show him how to use his aggression and frustration as fuel. I’m surprised we didn’t just loan him out in August tbh.
I don't see how he gets a chance when VDB can't even get into the team. Hannibal has a much higher ceiling than VDB but right now they're at a similar level.
Agree with your general point, and in the case of MejbriI it is probably correct (as he is too good to be playing non-competitive football like U23). But I think there are so many exceptions that I’m not quite sure it is accurate.
If you look at the players from Man Utds acadamy who «made it» (lets define it as more than 100 games in the PL or similar), quite few of them played much senior football before the age of 20. Giggs did. Wes Brown did. Maybe Phil Neville too? I also think Evans got a few loans spell.
Correct me if I’m wrong but Scholes, Butt, Beckham, Neville, Fletcher, Pique, Savage, M. Keane, Cleverley, McTominay etc did not?
That being said, I think Chelsea have been great with their «loan system». It is a nice way of giving young players exposure early if they are ready for it.
Maybe for attackers, but it’s rarer for centre backs and central midfielders that are already at big clubs. I do think we should have looked at loaning him out this season though.
The vast majority of defenders don't come from big clubs, in fact the vast majority of top players don't come from big clubs or at least they don't come from the biggest clubs but clubs where there is room for playing time at a relatively young age.
In a 25-man squad - I'd say we're one midfielder short. So he could be that 25th man.
But we're over stacked in the attacking positions, so he probably won't get game time.
But we're over stacked in the attacking positions, so he probably won't get game time.
Lingard’s G/A ratio is terrible for us. Could it get any worse if we played a young player there?
My point isn't about players that played 100 games but players that became top players. There are late bloomers like Kanté or even someone like Vardy but the norm is for top talents to play professionally around the age of 18-19 years old, outside of the class of 92 the players that you mentioned played regularly around that age or have become squad/fringe players. Regarding Fletcher and Butt they played relatively big minutes at the age of 19 years old.
Of course. Thats just basic probability though.
The chance of an 18 year old being ready for full time top flight football is relatively small, then even smaller for a central midfielder, then even smaller again that this player is already at a big club and they have space to play him.
So yes, the majority of top players don’t come from top teams, but that’s not solely down to playing time at 18.
God this place is miserable.
I'll be surprised if his playing time for the first team is over 100 mins this season.
Ole's not going to play youngsters until our season is over, not when we're supposed to be chasing for a league title after signing Sancho, Varane and Ronaldo.
Ole's not going to play youngsters until our season is over, not when we're supposed to be chasing for a league title after signing Sancho, Varane and Ronaldo.
VDB was refused a loan as well, but do you see Ole with a plan to play him? Got no confidence that H will be anything more than maybe a sub at the end of a league/FA cup match we are winning by 3-4 goals.
Hoping he gets to play against west ham in the cup in a few weeks so I can see him play live. He seems ready for a chance and we’re short in midfield.
He won’t play much, if at all. I’d be willing to bet good money he makes less than 3 appearances all season.