Well that is fair. I'll stop being as supportive when we stop progressing.
The problem is that we've been continiously progressing as a team. This result isolated isnt a concern for me, with 11 men we don't lose.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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The problem is that we've been continiously progressing as a team. This result isolated isnt a concern for me, with 11 men we don't lose.
Next is Atalanta and Villarreal. As if we are going to win it. Both are tactically we drilled teams. Europa , here we come.
Hes an awful manager.
It's not just Ole, it's Carrick and McKenna too, they're all way out of their depth and get found out in situations like tonight. You'd think we'd had two or three players sent off the way we went about it.
I'd be happy to keep Ole but he needs experience around him and not a pair of yes men.
I'd be happy to keep Ole but he needs experience around him and not a pair of yes men.
Progress.
I’d kill for Conte. We’d win the league at a canter. It’ll probably go tits up the season or two after but it’d stop an 8 year period of wilderness.
3 of those losses were against top European competition in his first half-a-season, one of which ended up not mattering because we won the return tie and went through.
The last red I remember from us is the 6-1 defeat to Spurs, where we again just gave up.
Time and time again he's shown his incompetence. We had enough quality to win that game even with 10 players. This loss is all on the manager really.
Im relieved this is just a group game and not a semi-final or final. But seeing that the same has happened in the past, I reckon Ole doesn't learn from his mistakes and his assistant coaches do feck all.
Yeah we should be beating a team with a name like "Young Boys" 6-0 right?
He is not helping himself now. His in game management is horrendous. Playing like cowards just because you have a player sent off is weird. Poor poor management.
Hes reliant on it because thats his style of play. He doesn't enforce and regulate tactics because he favours expression
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That’s fine and your opinion but he ain’t going anywhere.
We had zero chances after the sending off. That was down to the manager's tactics, or lack of.
The poor subs cost us a draw. Always a battle a man down for that long. But Martial and Jesse were bloody pointless subs - when we needed to hold up the ball further up and slow down the play.
He hasn't played for about 2 years.
Like I said, he got it wrong. The subs were laughable, game management was non existent.
Martial and Lingard, shouldn't be anywhere near the club, but here they are playing in the CL. Bringing these two on in any game is wrong, tonight it was totally fcuking wrong.
But, identity and tactics means fcuk all if seasoned professionals including 2 world cup winners can't organise themselves on the pitch against one of the worst teams in the CL with 10 men.
What a mistake to put Lindgard on for CR7. He had Martial available. What about Greenwood? Ole needs to be ruthless with players like Lindgard. He should have been sold. Now he needs to be benched. If Ole cannot display ruthlessness after this game, he deserves the sack, and it will come sooner rather than latter.
Ole is going to stand there and take all the blame as he always does. But isolated, Jesse cost us the point here.The difference in this thread when United win vs when they dont or they lose. I wish the people who are so quick to criticise would be fair and praise too when theres a good win.
Dont get me wrong, I think today is mostly on him (AWB daft tackle aside when YB were hardly creating anything). But his subs and formation changes were just bizarre. He got it wrong (but even so, we were ok at 1-1, and then Lingard does that... ugh).
And yes, I know he was subbed on by the manager, but still, thats very very bad. It wasnt even underhit, cos if it was hit any stronger, its going out wide of the box. It was like the perfect assist.
Bizarre decision to take off Sancho and not replace him with Greenwood or anyone with any sort of pace. Left us with no out ball and someone to carry us up the pitch, which meant we resorted to hoofing the ball away at every opportunity and gifting them back possession constantly.
It really wouldn’t. 1-1 was not a good result.
We are quick to demand we sell our deadwood players but we forget that the worst of the lot is sitting in the dugout. I have never known a manager so capable of pulling defeat from the jaws of victory.
Much like England with Southgate, the team we now have is far too good to be wasted on a failing managerial experiment.
Much like England with Southgate, the team we now have is far too good to be wasted on a failing managerial experiment.
Which is fair, but it won't win him things. As we seen so far.
It's not one game. We have a fair share of absolutely disgraceful performances, like today, against Wolves and even Southampton it was crap. Quite often we manage to escape with a win because we have top squad but we don't perform anywhere near as well as we should.
Yikes. There’s clearly no point having a conversation with you on this judging by that reply.
Red cards and errors happen. But Explain the total lack of compusure of the team. It looked like we were down to 9. The last time we went down to a big team we got thrashed. Contrast that with Chelsea with 10 men. Tuchel came in and Chelsea shot up the table with the same squad. That's the difference between a poor to average manager and a good one. It's not about individuals and individual errors. It's not about this sub or that sub. It's about the entire structure, composure of the team. It's the coaching and the tactics. Frankly I'm done with him.
Today is the first time I'm saying it, but he needs to go.
Close to an hour with 10 men on a plastic pitch away from home in the first game of the group stage? It would've been a good result.
If we go to Europa there is now way he could survive that again
People keep saying one game this or that. We literally got played off the park by Wolves and drew with Southampton. We haven’t played a good team so far this season
He’s just not good enough. Put him in charge of any one of Brighton, Burnley, Newcastle, Palace, Southampton, etc. Any of them, clubs who usually stay up comfortably, and I guarantee you he would get them relegated. 100% guarantee.
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Ole should have played the above team and bringi in Greenwood at the later stage.
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Ole should have played the above team and bringi in Greenwood at the later stage.
We should because they are very very bad compared to us. We should be struggling against them right? Based on their pitch being difficult to play on? Right?
Why? What has he done that warrants more time? He isn't going to win anything major with united and today is further proof that he can't deal with well organized teams. Or are we going to heap more praise on him for beating a shit Newcastle.
Yep. Im worried about our set up whenever we go to ten men. Seen it against Spurs, and PSG and again tonight.
We look like weve lost three men, and just cant pass. Everybody panics and then we have some weird set up. Instead of being structurally strong, it seems the plan is just try and put on as many defensive minded people, when the one area we struggle in is our defensive midfield.
This is a game we should win and at home. Villarreal and Atalanta definitely won't be easy. Although on passed form we will turn up for those games. Don't you find that when we have a good result we go into the next game with the wrong attitude. Sometimes we get away with it, tonight we didn't.
Chelsea sacked club legend lampard when they realised he couldn't take them forward anymore, brought in a manager that actually has a clue and look at them now.
It's obvious We've reached our limits with Ole and we should do the same or else it's out of Europe, out of domestic cups, hello top 4.
It's obvious We've reached our limits with Ole and we should do the same or else it's out of Europe, out of domestic cups, hello top 4.
Zidane is available!!!!!
I would even take Conte.
I would even take Conte.
The sentiment of a previous player being the manager is costing us, and will continue to cost us...
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