Drinking at seats in football grounds could be reinstated

[Oranges038]

To stop cnuts throwing around half empty beers and throwing cups at players or cups of piss for that matter, because we all know this will happen.

Have them bring their own resuable cups, then charge an extra £5 on every beer when you don't have your own and have a returns bin that gives a voucher for every cup returned.

 

[Dan_F]

It’s only going to cause a problem because it’s been banned for so long. Morons not acting normally because they’ve been prevented from doing something previously. Cups do get thrown on the pitch all the time all over Europe. It’s a small minority, and let’s be honest, doesn’t really cause any harm.

The people who want to get stupidly drunk are still going to get stupidly drunk beforehand and cause issues. An extra pint isn’t going to make a difference.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

It works in other sports. but then in other sports, you have people who support different teams being civil enough to be able to sit next to each other.

Hate the stereotype, but Football really does have some of the worst sports supporters. Having the ability to buy alcohol constantly would be quite... something.

But also the best too. I wouldn’t want football to ever turn as stale as Rugby or as stupid as Cricket. Don’t get me wrong they are all good days out but a proper away day in a football crowd is a top tier experience and the tribalism 100% facilitates that.

Having said that as much as I like beer, I just feel this is an unnecessary step.

 

[RUCK4444]

Look at the state of the England fans at the Euros before the final. You want that at every football ground on a Saturday? I love a pint and football but the vast majority of English football fans are absolute morons.

This, sadly @Gary_Walsh_Nou_Camp_Hell

Didn't really want to bring that up but it's true isn't it. Other sports don't have the same problematic fans football does, so it's very different and I can't see that changing.

I think this would be reverted back to a ban on booze in the stands in no time.

 

[djembatheking]

Should allow smoking as well, lets get it back like the 80s.

 

[Dirty Schwein]

Ronaldo will personally replace everyone's beers with water.

 

[FatTails]

It works in other sports. but then in other sports, you have people who support different teams being civil enough to be able to sit next to each other.

Hate the stereotype, but Football really does have some of the worst sports supporters. Having the ability to buy alcohol constantly would be quite... something.

This. All of it.

 

[Champ]

Surely if drinking pitchside is reinstated, then all that would happen is people wouldn't down their beers at half time, instead they would buy a couple, drink one at half time and take the other out to their seat. Pretty sure clubs would put a limit on how many pints you could take pitchside in one go anyhow.

No club will be willing to keep the bars open when the match is taking place,

so little if anything will realistically change, so i don't really see it being an issue.

 

[joi_division]

In Australia it's 4 per person as many times as you like. Throw a beer and you're out for 3 years. We have a snitch attitude here and there's a number to text message with your seat number to dob in beer throwers or racist types. Couldn't tell you how many times I've driven to games here and had to catch a train home

https://www.ladbrokes.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/beer-afl.png

 

[Withnail]

Yeah exactly. Not really worth being soaked in beer and p*ssheads stumbling about all for a warm beer in a plastic cup.

Why do you think people being allowed to leisurely sip their beer in their seat as opposed to having to skull it at half time will lead to people being more drunk?

There's no logical sense to your argument.

 

[FatTails]

Should allow smoking as well, lets get it back like the 80s.

A hookah would really elevate the experience IMO.

 

[RedDevilCanuck]

Grounds are making up for lost revenue. Support and drink up or shut up.

 

[Herman Toothrot]

I'm not sure it would be the right move. Drunk football fans have the reputation of becoming unpleasant to say the least. On the other hand perhaps it can improve the atmosphere in certain games.

Fans turn up shitfaced. The trouble-causers always find a way.

It would be so nice to have a beer in the stands. Shame we're serving fecking Carling this season.

 

[RUCK4444]

Why do you think people being allowed to leisurely sip their beer in their seat as opposed to having to skull it at half time will lead to people being more drunk?

There's no logical sense to your argument.

Eh? Well the difference being people can continually go back and forth getting beers through the entire game. What are you missing here?

One pint at half time or 5/6 in the stands during the game. Invariably somebody goes to the toilet and brings back a round for the group, then the next one goes, then the next.

I couldn't give a toss really, but we will see how it ends.

 

[Gary_Walsh_Nou_Camp_Hell]

I like a beer as much as the next guy bud, just don't think it's desperately needed at the stadium. It's one of them things that the smaller minority of idiots spoil for the rest.

The village idiots will only become louder with the racist nonsense, people getting up for a p*ss every 30 seconds, getting drenched in beer. It won't be me all that much but might spoil the experience a tad for kids/families attending... All for a pint of flat beer in a plastic cup?

Non of these things happen in the many sports around the world that have beer in the stadium.

If German football fans can do it and Aussie Rules fans can have a beer without any problem then so can English football fans.

 

[sullydnl]

Why do you think people being allowed to leisurely sip their beer in their seat as opposed to having to skull it at half time will lead to people being more drunk?

There's no logical sense to your argument.

Well it's 90min of drinking time versus 15min of drinking time, with them still being able to throw back whatever pints they want in the 15 min as well.

Also don't know why you'd assume the type of person who skulls back pints at half time now would turn into a leisurely pint sipper during the 90min, as opposed to happily throwing back as many pints as they feel like then too.

Basically I can't see any way this wouldn't lead to more net drunkeness without discarding how football fans actually behave.

 

[Gary_Walsh_Nou_Camp_Hell]

yes... most other sports dont have teams of police on horse back greeting opposition fans at the train stations either though

Funny how you don't realise that people who want a drink do so before the game, at half time and then after the game. 1 more beer sat in their seat isn't going to change anything.

 

[Gary_Walsh_Nou_Camp_Hell]

Should allow smoking as well, lets get it back like the 80s.

Drinking has no health consequence for the people are you.

 

[Withnail]

Eh? Well the difference being people can continually go back and forth getting beers through the entire game. What are you missing here?

One pint at half time or 5/6 in the stands during the game. Invariably somebody goes to the toilet and brings back a round for the group, then the next one goes, then the next.

I couldn't give a toss really, but we will see how it ends.

Anyone drinking 5/6 in an hour and a half wouldn't be limiting themselves to one at half-time and you'd have to think people like that would be in the minority.

Every other sport seems to manage just fine so the portends of doom seem a little over the top.

 

[Can7onA]

It will stop people drinking as much as they possibly can before the game, good call imo.

Will still get idiots but hey, that's the way of the world.

 

[Deery]

Pissed up English fans, what could ever go wrong.

 

[macheda14]

If you could maybe have drinking designated stands. Then this could work. But the mixture of boozed people and families is a bit much.

 

[RUCK4444]

Anyone drinking 5/6 in an hour and a half wouldn't be limiting themselves to one at half-time and you'd have to think people like that would be in the minority.

Every other sport seems to manage just fine so the portends of doom seem a little over the top.

Have you never seen England fans on tv at football matches? It's not exactly a myth is it, every year we see idiot's a huge numbers on the news.

All I'm saying is that it's naive to say 'oh well it's fine at the Rugby or the cricket' I think that's echoed here in the thread as well.

 

[BuzzKillington]

The vast majoriity of match day fans are not staying sober(ish) because they cant drink in their seats, its because it cost fecking £40+ quid for a ticket and they dont want to be watching the game through one eye. Plenty of time for a drink after the game. Yes, there will be a few pissed up idiots who'll abuse it, but those people are already there and get well oiled before kick off, them being able to drink in their seat is not going to be making much of a difference. Stewards tend to deal with the most egregious offenders anyway.

As for the cascade of bottles and cups people are expecting, said drunk people already have access to coke bottles and coffee cups, they're not throwing those currently, one or two overpriced pints of shit quality lager is not going to make a massive difference imho.

 

[Withnail]

Well it's 90min of drinking time versus 15min of drinking time, with them still being able to throw back whatever pints they want in the 15 min as well.

Also don't know why you'd assume the type of person who skulls back pints at half time now would turn into a leisurely pint sipper during the 90min, as opposed to happily throwing back as many pints as they feel like then too.

Basically I can't see any way this wouldn't lead to more net drunkeness without discarding how football fans actually behave.

When I go to GAA matches over here it's the same thing. We and many others have a few drinks before and one or rarely two at halftime and it is a bit of a rush.

I've also been to rugby games where you could drink during the game and didn't really drink a hugely different amount.

I'm really not getting the hysteria around this.

 

[Withnail]

Have you never seen England fans on tv at football matches? It's not exactly a myth is it, every year we see idiot's a huge numbers on the news.

All I'm saying is that it's naive to say 'oh well it's fine at the Rugby or the cricket' I think that's echoed here in the thread as well.

I'd be very surprised if there is any impact from this whatsoever.

 

[Green_Red]

It's been permitted at other sports as far as I can remember.

The only thing I would worry about is Dave from Daventry chucking his pint when Fred misplaces a pass.

Yea

One thing it would fix is the massive queues on the concourses at half time. They are a load of me bollox!

 

[711]

fecking hell we really are just a country of alcoholics aren't we? You don't need a fecking pint in your hand all the time.

Speaking as one of yer actual alcoholics even I think it's a fecking stupid idea.

 

[Ødegaard]

Alcohol free? Fine.
Alcohol? That's a no for me, and I don't think other sports should allow it either.

 

[Deery]

You’ll get scenes like the Hungarian’s throwing beer every week it’s a no from me Jeff.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Alcohol free? Fine.
Alcohol? That's a no for me, and I don't think other sports should allow it either.

Came to say this. Serve non alcoholic lager, it’s win win for everyone. Beer companies still make money, the idiots who have a skin full prior to the game get to sober up a bit/cause less issues & those who genuinely like the flavour can still get a drink they like.

If you can’t comprehend 2 hours without alcohol, bearing in mind you can have it before and after the game outside the stadium, you should seek help.

 

[iHicksy]

fecking hell we really are just a country of alcoholics aren't we? You don't need a fecking pint in your hand all the time.

Completely agree. It's honestly a little bit pathetic. I don't have an issue with the people who can just have one for enjoyment, but we all know football fans in a country with a binge drinking problem that this is only going to lead to problems. It was banned for a reason - hooliganism, nothing has changed in our society in terms of a dependence on alcohol to escape the working week.

 

[Tacitus56AD]

I actually think this could be a good idea. If fans want to drink and can`t get a beer in the stands they will make sure to drink as much as possible before kick-off and end up pissed before the game even starts - this could be stopped if they were able to strech their drinking over a longer period.

 

[el diablorojo]

On the one hand it's about treating all fans of sport equally - somebody sitting in my seat at "New Griffin Park" watching London Irish can have a pint but when I am there watching Brentford it's against the law to do so.

On the other hand all the negatives mentioned on this thread may very well happen.

 

[fergieisold]

It’s such a dumb rule. People just end up even more drunk downing pints before and during half time.

 

[Prodigal7]

hells yeah

 

[do.ob]

Have you never seen England fans on tv at football matches? It's not exactly a myth is it, every year we see idiot's a huge numbers on the news.

All I'm saying is that it's naive to say 'oh well it's fine at the Rugby or the cricket' I think that's echoed here in the thread as well.

Allow beer, ban English people. Problem solved?

 

[pastyfool]

Can drink at your seat here in the J League (although drinking in the ground is currently banned due to Covid). You're also allowed to pour a tin from ‘outside' into a cup at the gates and bring that in. Sometimes there are even 'Beer Girls’ (although it’s more of a baseball thing) who walk around the stands with a mini keg of beer on their backs (they work hard), so the beer can come to you.

Think the split of the fans here is around 60/40, male to female. Loads of kids with people even bring their babies.

Don’t have the same issue’s here with pissed up fans getting rowdy. It’s almost as if alcohol isn’t the problem...

 

[Deery]

I actually think this could be a good idea. If fans want to drink and can`t get a beer in the stands they will make sure to drink as much as possible before kick-off and end up pissed before the game even starts - this could be stopped if they were able to strech their drinking over a longer period.

That’s not how drinking works they’re more likely to just drink right through, rather than just leave it for the game.

 

[Norman Brownbutter]

I actually think this could be a good idea. If fans want to drink and can`t get a beer in the stands they will make sure to drink as much as possible before kick-off and end up pissed before the game even starts - this could be stopped if they were able to strech their drinking over a longer period.

Logically, this is correct. But my life experience tells me that people will just see it as an opportunity to have one very long drinking binge rather than two drinking binges separated by 90 minutes of singing, shouting, and calling people cnuts at the top of their lungs.