Ole Sack Watch

[Ekeke]

When the old boys stop saying to give him time and say he's had his chance

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

Not in 2021. Maybe after the new year, when he plays the same 11 in all the Christmas fixtures and we look totally gassed.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

We've just reupped his assistants so this has a while to run yet. The folks in charge of this club are not very smart.

 

[izec]

April 2022

 

[iammemphis]

Get rid.

 

[DOTA]

If you don’t mind me asking, why? We have three years of results to view, what could that one game show?

2 games. And they'll show whether things are as bad as they looked today or whether the squad can rebound.

 

[padzilla]

There is no indication any progress has been made beyond the fact the board and the manager now get along. Maybe that is the target with Ole’s appointment. If anything we are worse off than when Mourinho left.

 

[Dante]

Zidane was the managerial equivalent of smelling salts. He woke up the Real squad after they'd be sent to sleep by Benitez. It was already a strong team with a strong identity and a strong track record. They only needed reminding of how good they used to be and given their enthusiasm back.

Our next manager, on the other hand, will need to create a new team with a new identity from scratch. At the moment, it's a great collection of individuals but doesn't have a history of playing well together.

Ole's replacement should be somebody who can teach the squad to be something they've never been before. I don't see Zidane being that man.

 

[dove]

Hopefully soon.

 

[gerdm07]

After the Liverpool game. If we concede 3 or more he's done.

This. 3-0 or 4-1 loss to Liverpool and I think he is gone. I've been Ole-in all along, started having my doubts the last few weeks, and now I'm Ole-out. It's sad really.

 

[e.cantona]

I voted No. And yes. I'll change it to only yes

 

[Will Singh]

We can still rescue the season, all we have to do is sack him today sand next week bring in someone who knows what they’re doing!!

 

[Revan]

Me. I think we should reassess after Liverpool.

Regardless of what happens in that match, what new information would that match bring? In all honesty, what can happen in that match to make us know a bit more about Ole’s managerial capabilities that we do not know now (or for many, that we didn’t know 2 years ago)?

 

[Raoul]

This is beginning to look like his cardiff exit. He might not survive the week

.....thus says the Chief. But sadly, I think it will drag on a bit longer. Liverpool, Spurs, and City games will be grim.

 

[elmo]

The problem is, he just signed a 3 year deal.
We always seem to splash out these extensions just before they fall off a cliff. Did it with Mourinho too.

If anything, it means the club isn't afraid of keeping a manager just because he has years on his contract.

 

[DickDastardly]

I don't necessarily disagree, that it would be a good move to save some face and restore a little bit of his reputation with the fans.

I don't think it will happen though. First of all, he is probably still thinking he can turn it around and is going to fight until he gets the sack. Second, even if he is already set for life, it would be madness to effectively say no to £10-20m or whatever the amount is. I mean, has there ever been anyone whose time has clearly been up, who has gone voluntarily? I can't come up with any examples, but I might be wrong.

I agree. A utopian thinking.

I know what i would do. But then again, maybe he really thinks he can turn this around.... he's certainly a fighter, bailed us out as a player numerous times...that's his mentality.

I don't think anything about Ole is about money. Just doesn't rub me that way. I might be wrong.

And yes, he's definetely not gettting another managing Job anytime soon.

Then its the sack.

Off with his head.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

I don't think that would happen. The players would be alienated even further. But an experienced interim manager would make sense to buy us time to secure the right fit going forward and allow us to make a quick decision now to salvage the season.

Don‘t say I didn’t warn you if it happens…I’ve lost all hope with this club I really have.

 

[Jibbs]

It happened after Liverpool defeat with Mo. If history is to repeat itself, I am glad it is just 8 days away.

 

[Bobcat]

He needs to go i think, BUT...

We (the board) need to identify and find a good replacement first. Sacking him now and then hiring anyone whos available, or even worse, appointing a caretaker could make our season go from bad to complete shit really fast.

We got

1. Zidane. Does he even want the job?
2. Conte. He wins stuff, but like Jose is a bit of a "scorched earth" type of manager that leaves you in a bad spot
3. One of the young, up and coming types like Ten Haag, Rose, Potter etc. Do they have the stones to take this job and if they do, what do we expect from them this season?

I've backed Ole all the way and honestly think hes done a good job up until this season, but we cant keep playing like this if we want to win anything of note and that is 100% on him and his staff. Maybe we'll smash the scousers and go on a 20 game streak from here on out, but i sincerely doubt that

 

[Josep Dowling]

In what way we are better than when Mourinho left? A broken team, shitter performances than there, and probably not much more points (on average). With far less success (Europa and League cup vs nothing), far less points on their second full season when both finished second.

We have a better squad though, but that is what 420m do for you.

Squad wise we are in a much better position than under the previous manager. Looking at that team we basically need two decent CM. I still believe Donny could be one of them if given a chance. I also think we need a better RB going forward.

The fact we have such a strong squad is the reason why fans have already lost patience this season. We have not dominated any team so far. Maybe Leeds who have been awful themselves. The poor set up is down the manager. Our coaching staff lack any experience at the top level bar Phelan. I can’t understand how a club the size of United have allowed a bunch of unqualified staff to manage the team.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

The comical part is I’m pretty sure if we brought in the right guy we’d have a chance of pulling a Chelsea of last year and turn into a completely different side. It’s not like other years where the squad wasn’t good enough, this squad should easily be challenging even if the midfield isn’t quite good enough to win a title.

 

[largelyworried]

We’re at that point where a run of poor results looks inevitable but clubs rarely ditch the manager before the disaster actually unfolds. So it’s a weird sort of space. Im reminded of that time under Moyes when we had home games against Liverpool and City coming up and you just knew we were going to take a beating, but the club just waited for it to happen. Grim.

 

[ExoduS]

Ole is done. No coming back from this. He survived few disasters last year, but this is too much with the squad we have. Bye, bye. I feel bad, and I actually don't have high hopes that next manager is going to be much better. We just seem deeply fecked as a whole organization.

 

[padzilla]

He will only get sacked when some target in his contract isn’t met like a failure to reach top four. Anybody who thinks we are going anywhere under current management is deluded.

 

[Bobcat]

Probably when top 4 is impossible

 

[Giggsy13]

Hopefully Woodward has been making calls to Conte or Zidane. We can’t go on like this and be thoroughly embarrassed the next 8 weeks. Our season might be done by then.

 

[PlayerOne]

I would assume so, he is an internal promotion after all.

That's my worry too. Which was my issue with an internal promotion.

 

[Tyzer85]

Ole needs to go, I'd take Conte over him right now.

 

[Strelok]

Looking at our upcoming fixtures after the international break and our current form imo Ole is even more likely to be sacked than Bruce. Probably the biggest candidate.

I said this before the break.

Imo he should man up, bench Ronaldo, play Cavani and maybe maybe he would save himself. He won't survive Dec anyway if he keeps starting Ronaldo and Pogba at the same time.

 

[MrSingh2002]

Good to see United fans haven't lost their minds and know we need to change the manager.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

.....thus says the Chief. But sadly, I think it will drag on a bit longer. Liverpool, Spurs, and City games will be grim.

It depends. We get a 6-2 from Liverpool ala spurs last season. Now way he survives that. Mourinho on a similar run did not survive a bad Liverpool defeat

 

[Bastian]

Do say I didn’t warn you if it happens…I’ve lost all hope with this club I really have.

Of course we all know where the main problems stem, one just hopes those structural changes have been more than PR exercises and that now they are granting authority to people who aren't clueless. I would find it quite funny though if Carrick or McKenna was given the role, and funnier still if they did well for a few matches and then got it on a full time basis. And then I think I'd probably cry a bit.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

We're run by sadists.

 

[Judge Red]

The league is gone again and the fixture list is rough so I think he’ll be allowed to humiliate us up until the Arsenal match at the end of November. Then he’ll finally be gone and the next guy can start with the minimal pressure of finishing in the top half of the table.

 

[RedBanker]

Squad wise we are in a much better position than under the previous manager. Looking at that team we basically need two decent CM. I still believe Donny could be one of them if given a chance. I also think we need a better RB going forward.

The fact we have such a strong squad is the reason why fans have already lost patience this season. We have not dominated any team so far. Maybe Leeds who have been awful themselves. The poor set up is down the manager. Our coaching staff lack any experience at the top level bar Phelan. I can’t understand how a club the size of United have allowed a bunch of unqualified staff to manage the team.

Because this manager was backed in the market blindly unlike the previous manager.

 

[Man of Leisure]

Why doesn't the poll add up to 100%?

 

[GazTheLegend]

Sack him now. Bring in Zidane.

You can't be accused of being reactionary either. We've been absolutely awful all season, even in the games we've drawn or won. Wolves, Villarreal, and Everton will all feel hard done by to not beat us easily based on the balance of the games we've played. And with the squad available there's no excuse and no hiding anymore.

 

[DOTA]

Regardless of what happens in that match, what new information would that match bring? In all honesty, what can happen in that match to make us know a bit more about Ole’s managerial capabilities that we do not know now (or for many, that we didn’t know 2 years ago)?

Answered above. It's not his capabilities I think we'll find out about. It's whether the players are able to bounce back under him. If they are able to then I think getting rid at a crucial time is the riskier option, so would be inclined to stick with him. If they aren't able to then we've nothing to lose and are better off saying our goodbyes.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

How can anyone still doubt Zidane when we have Ole in charge playing shit on the stick football?

Zidane won 3 CL and La Liga playing good football.

 

[Ralaks]

Absolutely no reason to stick with him. Ignore the results. Look at the play. Look at the lack of improvements. Look at the moronic decisions (play for penalties in the Europa League, etc).

No reason to give him until its mathematically impossible to qualify for the CL. Change. Now.