Ole Sack Watch

[Acole9]

What makes me laugh is the whole we've made progress thing. I've never seen how we have, we've gone from winning no trophies to still not winning any trophies. How can that be called progress?! He has been in charge for three of those four years too.

The excuses have all dried up now. He's just a shite/lucky manager. Should've been sacked when we went into the bottom three at Christmas two years ago.

 

[DWelbz19]

Liverpool are going to get a United manager sacked twice in a row, aren’t they? cnuts

 

[Sir Alex Ferguson]

He should have gone way back but we have too much sentimentality. Mark my words he will never get another PL job

 

[sewey89]

It’s absolutely time to make the change, but no way we’ll bring a new man in with the fixtures we have coming up. We’ll wreck our season in the next 3 weeks and get rid of him in the next international break. I can’t see a scenario that he stays beyond that.

Hopefully DVB and Sancho look like stars under a new man

 

[Berbaclass]

98%

 

[FreakyJim]

If we swap Ole and Southgate would anyone even notice?

 

[Hisha]

Still no poll on Ole. The football and results are as bad or even worse than the last few months of Jose. But remember how fast we had a poll on Jose? It was like the mods were eagerly waiting to start the poll at the very first sight of trouble.

 

[Acquire Me]

What is this culture he has built?

Listen, we were toxic as feck when he came in. We are much better in that regard. But his not going to take this team any longer imo and we should act accordingly. Erik ten Hag should be on our shortlist.

 

[Bastian]

Sooner it’s done the better, whoever comes in has loads of work to do. There’s no playing style, no system or evidence of any plan on or off the ball.

The club can’t have a season plodding along and patting themselves on the back because of a cultural reboot. This season there needed to be evidence of huge improvement, it was never going to happen and sooner people in charge realise the better.

Board: "So we're looking for a new manager"
Candidate: "Yes, I'm up for it".
Board: "Can you coach them so they play like a team though?"
Candidate:

 

[JohnnyKills]

They won't sack him until we're out of the CL. They only sacked Mourinho because he was burning the club down.

 

[Revan]

Answered above. It's not his capabilities I think we'll find out about. It's whether the players are able to bounce back under him. If they are able to then I think getting rid at a crucial time is the riskier option, so would be inclined to stick with him. If they aren't able to then we've nothing to lose and are better off saying our goodbyes.

If the players bounce back under him, we still know that he has a very low ceiling. A ceiling that is far from competing for the big titles.

So what does it matter? Let’s assume we win the next 2 matches, 35-0 each. We still know that Ole is a pretty awful manager that won’t ever challenge for a title, and is completely clueless on playing against a low block.

So why prolong the misery?

 

[Winrar]

That poll is brutal

Well Glazers, you said you'd listen to the fans. Put your money where your mouth is

STOP THE COUNT!!!

 

[SirAF]

98%

STOP THE COUNT

 

[Robindinho]

Not with our board, we'll wait until it's mathematically impossible to get top four and waste another season, when everyone knows it's inevitable.

They'll be getting the leaks ready now of 'business as usual' and 'still retains full backing'.

 

[sewey89]

What makes me laugh is the whole we've made progress thing. I've never seen how we have, we've gone from winning no trophies to still not winning any trophies. How can that be called progress?! He has been in charge for three of those four years too.

The excuses have all dried up now. He's just a shite/lucky manager. Should've been sacked when we went into the bottom three at Christmas two years ago.

wtf that never happened

 

[I'm David Moyes damnit]

Bit of a leftfield choice but Mike Shildt needs a new job and he's done a fantastic job guiding the Cardinals to the last three postseasons.

Go all out for Ted Lasso, imo.

 

[FreakyJim]

Can't wait for the borad's next extremely stupid/hilarious appointment. Whatever will they think of next? Stay tuned, this is United Circus TV.

 

[Isotope]

Useless poll. No Eboue??

 

[Godfather]

Me. I think we should reassess after Liverpool.

Absolutely nothing that happens in that game would change that he isn't good enough. By any stretch of imagination.

 

[Raoul]

STOP THE COUNT!!!

STOP THE COUNT

 

[golden_blunder]

Honestly I don’t want to go down the route of Conte who is a contrast to the players we have or zidane who doesn’t want to manage in England.

so I’d like to see us go for a double Ajax swoop
Ten Haag as head coach and VDS to replace woody. We need a football man in that position

 

[Remember the geese]

I've been quite supportive of the manager up until now, but today has been a watershed moment for me. Ole and his staff need to go. There isn't an outstanding candidate in my opinion and many of the possible options are quite unrealistic, especially mid season. I'm thinking ten Hag, Luis Enrique or Zidane. However, I'm not sold on any of them and am happy to hear of any other alternatives.

On a day like today it would be easy to have big doubts about some of the players too. For instance, as time goes by I'm thinking more and more that signing Ronaldo was a mistake. I just don't think we can carry players, although I'd like to believe that with a top tactician in charge and improved coaching, we could function better. Could be complete delusion on my part.

 

[Revan]

If we swap Ole and Southgate would anyone even notice?

Possibly. Southgate is average, not completely incompetent.

 

[Hansi Fick]

Why doesn't the poll add up to 100%?

"multiple votes allowed"

 

[Ranchero]

Sack him now. Bring in Zidane.

Who has real trouble speaking English. Such a daft idea.

 

[PlayerOne]

Never seen such a one sided poll

 

[Josep Dowling]

Listen, we were toxic as feck when he came in. We are much better in that regard. But his not going to take this team any longer imo and we should act accordingly. Erik ten Hag should be on our shortlist.

The only culture United need is a winning one. If we continue with our current trajectory there will be another toxic changing room left for the new manager. That’s if the board don’t make a change soon anyway.

 

[golden_blunder]

Vote rigged! We need a recount in London!

 

[Irwin99]

Won't happen. At least not for awhile until top 4 is looking very grim and/or the big players throw a strop. He's too patchy as a manger as it is so for every bad spell he's had he always responds with a good one that keeps him in the job.

Unless the players revolt (possibly) or the match going fans (probably not) then I think he'll be here until the end of the season and we'll assess from there. I seem to be writing this every season he's been here but it's true

 

[MUFC OK]

We are an utterly ridiculous club, with a crazy board, awful manager and a religious cult of fans who worship the manager.

So likely, later rather than sooner.

He’s indefensible after today. That was arguably his biggest game as manager, with the pressure he is rightly under. The biggest calamity of a performance in that second half I’ve ever seen. We were lambs to the slaughter.

 

[Speako]

In ten years time, Ole may well be the best managerial fit for United. But right now, he needs to go, learn his trade, get vital experience under his belt, win a trophy or two, then return. Or, he’s a decent number two. I will still laud him for turning this squad around post Mourinho, but he’s simply not ready yet for a job this size, and there is no disgrace in that. He’s a good Sales Manager who’s been catapulted to CEO to steady a destabilised ship.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Still no poll on Ole. The football and results are as bad or even worse than the last few months of Jose. But remember how fast we had a poll on Jose? It was like the mods were eagerly waiting to start the poll at the very first sight of trouble.

There is a poll and has been for about half an hour in Raouls thread.

 

[Jacob]

He's served his purpose to oversee the repair work from Mourinho/LvG. Now bring in an actual manager with experienced staff.

 

[MUFC OK]

How can anyone say they wouldn’t prefer world class conte over ole? Same ones who think mctominay is world class. We have some utterly clueless fans.

 

[laughtersassassin]

No point delaying the inevitable

 

[golden_blunder]

Possibly. Southgate is average, not completely incompetent.

Youd swear we are bottom of the league the way you talk. He’s clearly not incompetent but he’s not the man to take us to the next level

 

[Judge Red]

Presumably the board refuses to sack Ole because it’s empathetic towards someone clearly out their depth. The board has failed in its job just as much as him and was doing so long before he arrived on the scene.

 

[Revan]

In ten years time, Ole may well be the best managerial fit for United. But right now, he needs to go, learn his trade, get vital experience under his belt, win a trophy or two, then return. Or, he’s a decent number two. I will still laud him for turning this squad around post Mourinho, but he’s simply not ready yet for a job this size, and there is no disgrace in that. He’s a good Sales Manager who’s been catapulted to CEO to steady a destabilised ship.

He’s a snake oil salesman. Completely awful at everything except talking the talk.

Considering the backing he has had, he has been as bad as Sir David Moyes.

 

[golden_blunder]

How can anyone say they wouldn’t prefer world class conte over ole? Same ones who think mctominay is world class. We have some utterly clueless fans.

I want ole replaced but I don’t want Conte. He’s a complete contrast and we’d need to rip it up and start again

 

[Yakuza_devils]

What is the manager and coaches doing in training? Teams like Wolves, Villa, Everton, Villarreal, Young Boys outplayed us.

We need change immediately. No more bullshit need time to implement style of play and whatnot.