He wouldn't have even scored 1 against Luxembourg with today's chances.
Ole: “maybe something has to give”
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When you do that with footballer managers, like you said about Ole, I've kept really quiet in this thread but I'll tell you something, you went down in my estimation when you said that
I tell you I will love it, love it if we beat Atalanta
Goodness me, I can actually picture this. Xavi sitting on the bench because he can't cover enough ground and can't tackle.
And I can also picture some fans defending that.
If we were playing like Keegan's Newcastle it would be a bit more palatable.very true....
all that attacking talent and chances are few and far between
He can also earn a lot of money yearly by spouting a lot of BS on Sky Sports or on Talkshite without pressure. I wouldn't care one bit considering the number of clowns already on the job for those.
Ronaldo and Pogba need to be benched.
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-------AWB-----------Varane------------Maguire--------------Shaw----
---Greenwood-----Donny----Bruno----Matic---------Rashford--
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-------AWB-----------Varane------------Maguire--------------Shaw----
---Greenwood-----Donny----Bruno----Matic---------Rashford--
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That's very debatable.
Why? too world class to fit in?
Serious question that I've wondered for a while. Does Utd have a problem with player cliques?
Seems like players that you'd think would be great for the team just don't work out and don't fit in just far too often.
Seems like the manager isn't strong enough to make players do what he wants. Is that the result?
Ronaldo doesn't press, which would be fine if everyone else was pressing but that isn't the case. Pogba more often than not doesn't press and when he does he's shit at it.
In midfield both bruno and pogba cannot play specially when ronaldo is also in the team upfront. Ole is playing all three of them and our midfield is getting dominated by mid table teams.
Very debatable.
Are you for real, we may want a change of manager but Ole will remain a club legend until the end of time.
Honestly people take things too far.
You wonder if bringing Ronaldo is actually hindering Bruno. I think he is a bit in awe of him. He was the main man.
Wtf
…..we don’t press as a team but let’s blame two individualsWe were never a pressing team. That’s my biggest gripe - that was the original plan and we kind of tried it just gave up. We rank lower than Mou’s United for pressing stats, let that sink in, it’s clearly not part of the plan and that’s data from last season. The Athletic even did an article on it. Now with Ronaldo we’ll be even lower.
Cavani chases the ball, usually alone, that’s just one player giving a shit there’s no tactical pressing going on.
As a player yes. As a manager I'll just remember him as helping us heal after Jose and being our manager when Liverpool won the league.
. If we end up in relegation battle and go to Championship, he would not resign. Would you? This is his first and last job at high level. After United his maximum will be Norway or ChampionshipEven my mom thinks good players turn bad at United.
We're rotten.
We're rotten.
Because if one doesn't press, the team doesn't press. Let alone two.Wtf
He should be praised for the first part of your statement but the latter has no bearing on his time with us.
Ronaldo and pogba will never press therefore bench them and get the starting xi to press as a team. Fixing the issue requires certain players to be benched.Wtf
Of course it does.
No longer a pressing team
. As If some have never watched us play. Our 'press' has always been an utter joke.Having seen more of his personality as a manager, I don't find him likeable. Quite the opposite actually.
I wish he had just remained a club legend.
This is the crux of it. Bruno seems to have a sort of free role, Ronaldo certainly does, and then Pogba doesn't excel at the defensive stuff.
You can't fit all 3 in. When you put Matic who hasn't had the legs for years in there as well it's a perfect storm.
Emergency step for Liverpool is making sure McFred come back in. And most likely going back to an almost Jose style defensive shape, and trying to get them on the break, now Rashford is back.
Without Ronaldo and Pogba we don't press either. You need proper coaches and a manager to implement a proper press.
We weren't a pressing team when Ronaldo was at Juventus and Pogba injured. Ole has no intention to implement a pressing game.
It is time to give Van de Beek now a chance if he wants to change something!!!!
Nothing else has worked under Solskjaer!!
Nothing else has worked under Solskjaer!!
The top reds are now at the stage where they must admit we're playing incoherently but don't want to blame it on the manager/rest of the coaching staff so the plan is to blame new players. Anyone with any resemblance of a brain would know that our press has never been good. Sure we've had patches where certain players do it (or at least attempt to) but it's always been completely random without any plan. Bruno especially, he loves going on a sprint towards a defender randomly then they just pass it right through our midfield.No longer a pressing team
I'm getting a little alarmed at how some people seem to be putting a lot of this blame on Ronaldo!No longer a pressing team
People seem to have gone from underrating Cavani, to massively overrating him.
We're fecked then.
It definitely seems to have dropped him a gear. But it doesn't help that both seem to have a bit of a free role.
We need Bruno to play a little deeper, and make a 3 behind the ball when we don't have it.
We tried it when he first started, but moved away from it as players were getting injured.
It takes real coaching talent to bring it in effectively.
Without them we don’t press as a team…are you blind?
When he took the job he kept going on about stamina and energy, where is it then, why are other teams outrunning us? That the players were not fit enough, why do they still look unfit? There is something seriously wrong with the whole of the training regime.
Not because we aren't a pressing team but because we aren't a well coached containment team either.
I think pogba has to give personally, we need V.D.B who will give us a far better balance in midfield of teamwork and creativity.
We then have to play mctom as the single dm, as matic simply isn't up to the task anymore.
If that doesn't work than it will be Ole that gives, why he decided to go with matic and pogba today is anyones guess? Everytime they play together we get overun in midfield, in fact generally speaking even if you just play one of them we get overun in midfield.
If Ole doesn't wake up and smell the roses with pogba and matic and bin them both off where possible then he's signing his P45.
We then have to play mctom as the single dm, as matic simply isn't up to the task anymore.
If that doesn't work than it will be Ole that gives, why he decided to go with matic and pogba today is anyones guess? Everytime they play together we get overun in midfield, in fact generally speaking even if you just play one of them we get overun in midfield.
If Ole doesn't wake up and smell the roses with pogba and matic and bin them both off where possible then he's signing his P45.
Wait, wait, wait...did i got this right? After 3 years in charge, 500 mil spent on HIS players, he needs 2 months two understand what is he doing wrong? And not just thst; what about games before break? They don't count?
Damn, this guy really knows how to buy time
Well yes, that's kind of the point. We were never a pressing team.i don't know where this invention has come from.we counter attacked really well sometimes, that's about it.
I was pretty surprised to see the Pogba Matic combo.
Tough away game, and we go for our "home to crap teams" combo.
I can only imagine it was due to either the woeful form of McFred, or one or both have a slight niggle/lack of fitness.
We have never pressed properly under Ole, not sure why Ronaldo is suddenly a material problem in the team press now.