Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

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stw2022

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He ate a lot of his good will up not resigning and the delusional claim we’re “close” to getting to where we need to be won’t percolate well over next few days with fans
 

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He's staying for now, I don't see the board pulling the trigger yet (I disagree with them BTW)

It'll take a seriously bad run over the next month like, Watford being our only win could seal it.

I still like the guy and would hate to see it turn so toxic we lose the love for him.
 

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If he's not sacked in the next 2 hours then he won't go. This club has no ambition, they keep throwing the "biggest club" tag around and act like mid table club.

Also worrying that some fans are happy to go along with it and certain pundits support it.

Not sacking him after the awful and getting torn a new one by Liverpool tells you everything about this club. Absolute joke
Whilst I now agree we should be evaluating options to replace Ole, sacking without even so much as identifying a replacement is rarely a good thing to do.

I think after today it’s safe to say the club will be looking at replacements. I’d like them to identify somebody, personally somebody like Ten Haag, and lay the groundwork and investigate when they can physically switch across to us etc.

Sacking with no replacement means this ownership will absolutely 100% rush into anybody who is available with zero planning, they are useless idiots who learn nothing.
 

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The board must act quickly so the squad can move forward without uncertainty.

Keeping a incompetent manager at this point only make things worse from a media perspective. Otherwise the whole week will be about Solskjaer’s future and the club’s failure. We don’t need more negativity when the morale among the players is low and the media narrative is how incredibly bad we are.

Hopefully the owners release both the CEO and the manager at the same time so we can start all over again with positivity and a new focus.
 

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This has to be like Chelsea situation with Lampard. How long did it take them to appoint Tuchel after sacking Lampard?
 

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Why on Earth did they give him a new contract during the summer. Didnt they do the same with Mourinho if i recall.
 

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Why on Earth did they give him a new contract during the summer. Didnt they do the same with Mourinho if i recall.
Exactly 3 months ago today. It’s truly baffling. I can’t imagine they did it to prevent other clubs from sniffing around. What would’ve been the harm to leave it until next summer and go from there
 

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The media is circling and this will get a lot worse by tomorrow if nothing happens
 

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We will genuinely finish below Spurs, Leicester and Arsenal if Ole is allowed to see out the season.

No doubt in my mind.
 

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This club has only been a let down list Fergie but I think tonight/tomorrow if they don't fire Ole it will be the biggest let down of the lot
 

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I'm expecting him to go. And for the board to make another clueless appointment, having got it wrong four times already. Trouble is that a quarter of the way through the season is no time to get a proper appointment in place (and Conte isn't it).
 

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Whilst I now agree we should be evaluating options to replace Ole, sacking without even so much as identifying a replacement is rarely a good thing to do.

I think after today it’s safe to say the club will be looking at replacements. I’d like them to identify somebody, personally somebody like Ten Haag, and lay the groundwork and investigate when they can physically switch across to us etc.

Sacking with no replacement means this ownership will absolutely 100% rush into anybody who is available with zero planning, they are useless idiots who learn nothing.
Yes, but any competent board would have started planning for a plan B before the last international break and speaking to managers after the Leicester game.

But knowing how the club is ran, they don't even have short list drawn up.
 

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Every contract has termination clauses. So he won't be getting his full pay for the remaining period but only a percentage of it.
Steve Bruce had £8m as his severance pay, in his contract. It’s not just about percentages but what you negotiate when you sign the contract.
 

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We had 16 points at this stage last season. Scoring 16 conceding 16.

This year we have 14 points, scoring 16 conceding 15.

We won our league Cup 3rd round game last year, lost it this season.

Champions league last year we won 2 and lost 1, scoring 8 and conceding 3.

This season we have won 2 and lost 1, scoring 8 and conceding 5.

This is his level. He has also had three top class players added to his squad and a set piece coach yet still can't get us to improve. We have Spurs away and City home next and last season we took four points from the corresponding fixtures. I certainly don't see that happening this season though. I actually pray he gets fired or resigns before we fall even further behind.

I honestly cannot fathom how anyone would want him to stay as manager at this point. I really just do not get it at all.
 

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Steve Bruce had £8m as his severance pay, in his contract. It’s not just about percentages but what you negotiate when you sign the contract.
Agreed. Depends on who has the upper hand and is more desperate to get the deal done. I would imagine Citeh gave Pep a 100 million termination payout.
 

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Exactly 3 months ago today. It’s truly baffling. I can’t imagine they did it to prevent other clubs from sniffing around. What would’ve been the harm to leave it until next summer and go from there
Yea they should have just left it. Not as if Bayern were desperate to hire him.
 

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Who was the clown that gave him the new contract? And fans backed that decision.

Some utterly clueless people in this club.
Oh exactly, the warning signs were there. There was no need to do it, no one was going to poach him (which says it all) had we had a super start to the season, and we get to Christmas in a really strong position, by all means give him the extension then, I'd have had no problem with that. Unfortunately the signs were becoming apparent last season that he was out of his depth. Key moments eg not seeing the Fred red card waiting to happen against psg which ultimately cost us the game/ the pathetic defensive showing vs the Turkish side/ the Europa final.

He's no longer got Bruno almost single handedly bailing him out game after game. I'd say he's definitely lost Bruno, who's been shocking this season. Today's "performance" suggested he's lost more than Bruno, the work rate/ desire/ commitment/ press was absolutely non existent. The players do have a lot to answer for, it's Liverpool ffs even if you don't like the manager there's no excuse for something like that to happen. DDG and Ronaldo have saved him a few times already this season but couldn't this time.

I've seen a lot of people saying about Pogba's face as he came off what was he doing? Anyone got a picture?

He's not using his squad wisely, he I presume purchased VDB, but leaves him to rot on the bench with 10 minutes a game. As I've said before, at least TRY and use him, give him a run of games, fair enough if it doesn't work but at least TRY.

I was just waiting for Fred to be sent off after his yellow in the first half and Ole subbing several bar him. That would have been another nail in the coffin after the PSG incident.

I'm disappointed in the club to see he hasn't been sacked yet. That result CANNOT be seen as acceptable, yes Jose was being toxic but a smaller defeat against Liverpool got him the sack.

Ole no longer has anywhere to hide we've a fantastic squad and I believe if we binned him now, we can still challenge for a cup this season if we appoint the right manager, even if that's a caretaker until the end of the season. Who must of course remain a caretaker....

One wonders, had Ole not been an ex player would he have gone already? We must NOT let sentiment sway our views and be ruthless like Chelsea were with Lampard who was also out of his depth.

If we hadn't renewed Ole, he would have left with handshakes and thanks for the work he had done. If he goes now, overall his work here will be remembered fondly and he could do well going into places and fixing the culture going forward. However if we don't act, this could get ugly.

The most telling thing today was the booing (don't forget there was booing at half time in the week but the result papered over the cracks, as with several before it) however this was a different level of booing. Then the fans leaving at half time/ throughout the second half. Has that ever happened? Add to that the Liverpool fans singing that flipping Ole song?

We are very quickly destroying any good work Ole has done and becoming a laughing stock. Liverpool went down multiple gears in the second half, the result could have been even uglier.
 

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I think I first discovered this website in 2002 and have dipped in now and again but I admit, I've not been on for years.

Today warrants it though.

I'm not into knee-jerking with our managers (I remember relatives that have been fans since the 1960s clamouring for Fergie to be sacked in 2001...can't comment about 1989) but I think the next 2 months is a last chance saloon period for Ole.

OGS has given me experiences that I'd class as 'The United Way' (PSG away in 2019, Man City at home in 2020 and more recently, Villareal and Atalanta at home) but I'm probably beyond sceptical at this point for him to be a long-term manager.

OGS has the opportunity to be very brave right now; I can't remember a time when we've had a squad of this depth to choose from and I'm sure players like Cavani, Lingard and (obviously) Van de Beek are more than eager to come in.

The time will come when OGS will not be our manager but who will it be?
 

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We had 16 points at this stage last season. Scoring 16 conceding 16.

This year we have 14 points, scoring 16 conceding 15.

We won our league Cup 3rd round game last year, lost it this season.

Champions league last year we won 2 and lost 1, scoring 8 and conceding 3.

This season we have won 2 and lost 1, scoring 8 and conceding 5.

This is his level. He has also had three top class players added to his squad and a set piece coach yet still can't get us to improve. We have Spurs away and City home next and last season we took four points from the corresponding fixtures. I certainly don't see that happening this season though. I actually pray he gets fired or resigns before we fall even further behind.

I honestly cannot fathom how anyone would want him to stay as manager at this point. I really just do not get it at all.
Good comparison - some fecking progress :lol:
 

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Brendan Rodgers is currently favourite to be our next manager
I’m a major fan of Rodgers and would be very excited if he were to take over. We may not win the league or a European pot (who out there offers that guarantee?), but we’d be a very well coached side who’d play beautiful, progressive football. What’s not to like about that?
 

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Yes, but any competent board would have started planning for a plan B before the last international break and speaking to managers after the Leicester game.

But knowing how the club is ran, they don't even have short list drawn up.
This is the fear. It is fecking imperative that whoever we sign can work with the squad we have assembled.

Regardless of how we are performing now we are a couple of signings away from making this team capable of competing on all fronts, the last thing we need is somebody ripping it up and starting the ‘process’ all over again.

The problem with previous appointments is that they’ve taken us in totally different directions from one appointment to the next, meaning we were constantly in flux and rebuild from one to the next. The next manager needs to take what we have forwards, but it takes planning to identify that person (or huge amounts of luck that we don’t have.)
 

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Rodgers would be shit but at least he'd be easy to sack.

Anyone other than Southgate I'll take on a short term rescue mission. Even if I'd prefer a long term replacement like Rose or ten Hag next season.
 

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Rodgers would be shit but at least he'd be easy to sack.

Anyone other than Southgate I'll take on a short term rescue mission. Even if I'd prefer a long term replacement like Rose or ten Hag next season.
We probably shouldn't hire our next manager on wether or not they're easy to sack
 

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If he's not sacked in the next 2 hours then he won't go. This club has no ambition, they keep throwing the "biggest club" tag around and act like mid table club.

Also worrying that some fans are happy to go along with it and certain pundits support it.

Not sacking him after the awful and getting torn a new one by Liverpool tells you everything about this club. Absolute joke
Didn't they have to wait to notify the stock exchange last time?

PS -- I don't have high hopes no matter who the next manager is. There's something wrong with the club. I assume too many old boys with their fingers in the decisions.
 

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Oddly quiet from United's side tonight, I think something's brewing.
 

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Important people - '''Ole, why shouldn't we sack you?''

Ole - "Because we are close, oh so very close"

Important people - ''Close you say? How close?''

Ole - ''So close I can smell it, I can almost grab it''

Important people - ''WOW, that close? Ok then, on you continue''
 

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The calls for him to resign are moronic. He has a contract worth in excess of 25m pounds left. Who walks away from that?
What you should be demanding is that the club does what is necessary.
 

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If he's not sacked in the next 2 hours then he won't go. This club has no ambition, they keep throwing the "biggest club" tag around and act like mid table club.

Also worrying that some fans are happy to go along with it and certain pundits support it.

Not sacking him after the awful and getting torn a new one by Liverpool tells you everything about this club. Absolute joke
This is also the sentiments I feel. The fans contribute to the owners mediocrity by using the same fairytale argument that because things failed under Mourinho, hiring a renown manager is out of the question. I appreciate Solskjaer finishing second last season, however Poch did the exact same thing under Spurs and it is still totally disregarded.

The club should really look at Chelsea with Lampard last season and use that as a metric to move forward. LVG and Mourinho failing is on them exclusively, the glazers should be hiring a world class coach and they are available.
 
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