Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

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It feels hugely artificial to me
Yep. It has parallels with the shutting down of the Russian stock market on the grounds that it can't collapse if it isn't open.

Give it another couple of months and the economic pips in Russia will really start to squeak.
 

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Sanctions were never going to crush his military forces, Ukraine were always going to struggle big time. It does however look like the vast majority, if not everyone, underestimated how long Ukraine would be able to hold on, and just how much damage they'd be able to inflict on Russian forces.

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It's looks to me that Russian forces are struggling a lot more with Ukrainian forces than the other way around.
 

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It's looks to me that Russian forces are struggling a lot more with Ukrainian forces than the other way around.
While true this is all happening on Ukrainian soil, so their people struggle.
 

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The Ruble is incredibly in a stronger position versus the Euro than it was a year ago. That feels insane to me.
It's normal and to be expected. Both Russia and EU are/will be going through a recession due to the war, COVID and other factors so naturally the currencies will drop/devaluate. Every sanction that the EU implement, hits the EU itself and the euro too. Immediately when the war broke the ruble was expected to be hit hard but then regain position at some point.

The ruble will suffer in the long term but won't expect to be crashing down in an year or so to a level that more extreme views were pointing to.
 

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Just now, the European Parliament voted for a resolution demanding total stop of all Russian gas, oil and coal. This is a strong message to the commission that has already stopped coal and asked countries to accelerate the gas stop.

This is of course not binding by any means. But the commission has to act on it, and the respective countries are put under more pressure.

She is a Swedish renewEurope MP (Macron’s center block) so she is talking about them, but looking at the list there are names from of all parties. It seems to be a broad consensus.
 

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It is a strange concept. Some weapons have their origin in the search for a specific capability related to either attacking or defending, but they can nearly all be employed in the reverse. Tanks have their origin in the offense, but can defend just as well. Fighter planes have their origin in defending against bombers, but most nowadays have some sort of ground attack capability.

Or to say it another way, the Javelin doesn't make a distinction if the T-72 it's locked on to is attacking or defending :devil:
 

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Vietnam and Algeria, really?
2 countries that are among the most famous victims of war crimes commited after WW2. Both abstained in the previous vote, the one condemning the invasion.

In total 24 countries voted for Russia this time. That's a significative change from the first vote (I think only 5 voted against that resolution). And also a significant increase of the abstentions and absentees.

In total the vote against Russia went down from 141 to 94.

Venezuela absent in both votes.

 

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2 countries that are among the most famous victims of war crimes commited after WW2. Both abstained in the previous vote, the one condemning the invasion.

In total 24 countries voted for Russia this time. That's a significative change from the first vote (I think only 5 voted against that resolution). And also a significant increase of the abstentions and absentees.

In total the vote against Russia went down from 141 to 94.

Venezuela absent in both votes.

Sounds like Maguro is playing the fence after the prospects of US buying oil directly from him.
 

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"We have significant losses of troops". Vladimir Putin's press secretary Dmitry Peskov says it's a "huge tragedy to us" to have lost Russian troops during the war in Ukraine.
 

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Sounds like Maguro is playing the fence after the prospects of US buying oil directly from him.
Yes Maduro is ready to desert the sinking Russian ship. But what really retained my attention on that list was China. They abstained on the first vote. This time they voted with Russia and consequently emboldened many others to do so.
 

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Yes Maduro is ready to desert the sinking Russian ship. But what really retained my attention on that list was China. They abstained on the first vote. This time they voted with Russia and consequently emboldened many others to do so.
Possibly there is more freedom to vote on a GA Resolution than on a SC resolution as a permanent member?
 

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Possibly there is more freedom to vote on a GA Resolution than on a SC resolution as a permanent member?
I meant the GA vote. China abstained when the GA voted on condemning the invasion.

This vote.

 

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Yes Maduro is ready to desert the sinking Russian ship. But what really retained my attention on that list was China. They abstained on the first vote. This time they voted with Russia and consequently emboldened many others to do so.
If one is asking what the most conspicuous signal of a new Cold War would be, that should be the answer. China made their bed in that pool of mud and pigshit, and thus deserve to be treated as an enemy; there is no way to sugarcoat it.
 

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I meant the GA vote. China abstained when the GA voted on condemning the invasion.

This vote.

Ah right. Sorry.

I read their decision as being case specific and not wanting to set a precedent for being removed from the HRC, especially as they are busy committing genocide against the Uighurs.
 

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I meant the GA vote. China abstained when the GA voted on condemning the invasion.

This vote.

A few noteworthy items in that list. Afghanistan voted yes. Uzbekistan voted as well and appears to be one of the former Soviet stans who did. Oddly enough Brazil voted yes as well. A fair number of African nations abstained, which may be due to Russia's investments in some of them.