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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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because eth has shown before he builds teams based on the players he has. At Ajax he had 3 v different style teams. Playing with de jong means we don’t have to get a cb this year, also means we don’t need a new cm (Fred will pick up that this year). Instead we will focus I think on a backup st, rw, rb. Had we gone with neves or ruiz we would have gone with a dm and cb. Its really not hard to understand
If we pull this transfer coup off, it proves we can still do things that other clubs can only dream about in the transfer market. It's a reason to be optimistic now we've found a diamond head coach to lead us back to the promised land.
I am referring to a scenario we're we buy de jong for more money. In my opinion we are the same sluggish United who take ages to sign a player or conduct more then 1 transfer as a time. Now back to de jong
FDJ is a better signing than any player Arsenal/Spurs will make this summer. And I really can’t emphasise this enough - it’s fecking June. So them apparently being ahead of us because they’ve made some signings has zero relevance at this moment in time.
Yeah, cause we are the only ones in the world who don't always get all the targets we want... Let's ignore how long it took 'more efficient' clubs like City to sign a striker, Liverpool to sign Van Dijk, Chelsea are still chasing Kounde for feck knows how long now etc etc. Just because you don't follow other clubs transfer activity as close as ours, doesn't mean they they are somehow far far superior in doing that. The view that we shouldn't spend time negotiating to save 'just' £5m (ignoring the other important things like negotiating having to pay less in advance, or having more bonuses) or so is so flawed that if you were in charge, United would have been extinct long time ago.
We are buying a player neither Barcelona nor other clubs want ( on those fee). A player who needs to be dragged to Manchester
Barca wanted 100m initially especially coming off the Tchouameni transfer, they'll basically end up making what they paid for him ala us with Lukaku + Inter.
Hopefully it includes variables and a payment structure spread out over time so that we still have a decent kitty to be able to conclude more of this summers business.
Hopefully it includes variables and a payment structure spread out over time so that we still have a decent kitty to be able to conclude more of this summers business.
Yeah rumours. Doesn’t mean there was negotiations taking place. As far as I can see it’s been a few weeks of actual negotiations. If that delay means that we’re no longer having our pants pulled down over transfers then so be it.
The muppet train is approaching De Jong station. The only question is, where to next.
Looks like it'll finally be concluded in the next few days. Then we can look forward to the incessant moaning about how much we paid.
You'd think everyone would be over the moon to finally replace Carrick after all these years of having a dire midfield, as well as landing the new managers #1 target
You'd think everyone would be over the moon to finally replace Carrick after all these years of having a dire midfield, as well as landing the new managers #1 target
What do you mean?
We were literally in talks with Nunez, Timber, Eriksen, Martinez and De Jong at the exact same time.
Personally I think that ETH wanted De Jong as a centerpiece for his new team, and if we couldn't get him then we would shuffle to a different style which would require different players.
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Fair play, would've been a bad omen not getting his no.1 target in
The all conquering Mighty Madrid failed to get Mbappe too.
City signed haaland, Liverpool bought nunez...none of these clubs are in the middle of a rebuild becausewe threw 1b in the dumpster. We took over 2 months to sign a player whose club want to sell and no one really want. He also need to be dragged to OT
Or alternatively, we can continue to be really negative whatever the outcome of the negotiation.
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Eriksen if he wants to leave london......after that, everything has dried up. Antony seems to be a dead end with Ajax wanting to hold talent. I think FDJ and Eriksen could be our big name signings and then after that it's going to be quite for a while.
I expect this week to be a big week for clubs getting deals done. Players will be getting back from holidays, and we've another week before the full group are back in training. The haggling is frustrating for all but we've been a soft touch in the market for years and are clearly trying not to be seen to roll over for everyone these days. I think this will get done in the next couple of days, Eriksen soon to follow, and another player at the end of the window
Signing a player from Barcelona or Madrid is infinitely more complicated. It's not comparable to those deals where all parties knew a transfer was going to happen. It seems the Barca manager would still quite like to keep him. And they always drive a hard bargain, even when they are keen to sell.
Please tell me were I am wrong on that?
Because it makes a massive difference if you sign a player on 15th of June or 29th of June or so...
Well we signed a player for Dormund last year. It took us 2 years
I agree 100%, but it's not worth your time making these observations to people that just revel in negativity. It's been a long time since I was last on here and the place is full of toxic know it all these days.
I'm sick of the narrative that the club isn't run well, when a few miles down the road the scousers have let their three top attackers run down contracts to just a year left, and have spent more than we will on De Jong, on a player that's had one good season in portugal.
There's far too much short sightedness going on. Last summer we signed varane, sancho and ronaldo, and everyone rightly considered us a threat. It just shows that every single transfer is a risk.
The most important signing this summer has been Ten Hag. I think it was just as important to get some players out of the club too. The club are trying to move forward and the fans can't let go of the disappointment of last season, understandably to a point. But our squad isn't as bad as last year's showing.
We'd make one more signing at best and start waiting for player sales
Yup. I think Antony, De Jong and Eriksen will all sign this week to be on the tour next week. It’ll be like under LVG where we signed Darmian, Schneiderlin and BFS the weekend before they left on the Monday.
Yes...cause that approach worked out well in the past.....(Fellani)
I'm not gonna debate your perception of the deal. There are reasons to be optimistic - he's a fine player, he's worked well with ETH in the past, and he's helped drive the system ETH wants to bring to our club.
Exactly. When your only go to is to spin everything into negative there is no point. I don't know how people even have patience for that.
Once we sign De Jong, moaning will be on "he isn't good enough as Barca wanted to sell him and no one tried to sign him" it's tedious.
negotiations don’t always happen quickly. There’s a lot of factors in this signing. How they will pay the money, as in the structure of payments.. seemed to be the biggest stumbling block. If united have to hold tight and negotiate to enable a payment system that enables us to have more money for the transfer window then so be it. You don’t just throw the cash down instantly, it sets a bad example.
the club will sign players this window. It doesn’t matter who makes signings the fastest or what other clubs are doing. Totally irrelevant.
I think the results speak for themselves
Ours seem to always drag to eternity
We signed him when Dortmund were ready or forced to do business. The same with Haaland going to City. There was interest in Haaland last summer, but Dortmund didn't want to sell.
But how long will it take to build a team around him. He will be 40 years old.
In typical MUFC fashion we'll get a Simon Stone update of "No new bid yet" and then it will be announced early week.
This one is done. He's going to be a MUFC player.
This one is done. He's going to be a MUFC player.
I'm not judging the current manager, coaches and DOF on the results attained by those previously holding said roles.
We refused to meet Sancho or move to plan B. Then went on spending the dosh on legends such VDB, pellistri and diallo
Nah. Can’t be true. I’m reliably informed that we only focus on one target at a time
Expecting positivity on anything like this from @devilish is a fool's game.
Murtough has been involved since moyes times. I don't blame coaches or the manager on anything
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