georgipep
Full Member
As per the title, just curious what people think. Either just list the top 3, or add your logic/rationale, if you want to.
Exactly thisWest Ham, Newcastle and Everton
Glorious!Newcastle United from the Goal movies
No way he gets in their midfield.Nottingham Forest, Brentford, Everton
He does have a nice dribble in him when given space, so you may not be too off with the Heatbayern munich
atlanta
the miami heat
These teams... I doubt West Ham see him as a player to elevate them and take them up a notch from last seasonNottingham Forest, Brentford,Everton
You're taking people a bit to serious/literal... I can't remember writing much positive about him, of course I really don't mean he should be playing in a local pub team. But I'd rather see Fred (who I rate above him) along with youngsters to be on the bench/rotate with two superior starting options.The caf will have you believe he shouldn't even be a footballer.
Good call, that might be the 'best' team McTominay could join since Mourinho is there.The obvious choice is Roma!
I think you're probably right that some of the midtable clubs might be interested. However, I also think there would then be a fairly strong chance he'd fail to establish himself there and he'd have to drop down to a relegation-battler a season or two later (much like Cleverley did when he went to Everton then later Watford).More than many imagine. You hear nonsense about him being a championship player and stuff. I don't think he'd have to slum it at a relegation club. I think solid midtable clubs would be interested at a price. If we went over the top we wouldn't sell him.
Awesome response. Insta follow.The problem some of our supporters have in objectively assessing the abilities of our squad members is that they forget that it's immeasurably more difficult to perform the CM role or the CB role or the full-back role for a team like United, as opposed to a club like Wolves or Leicester.
Even if we leave aside the pressure and the expectation and the fact that every opponent raises their game against you - there's just so much more demanded of you in terms of being able to keep the ball under pressure, pick passes through the lines and cover bigger spaces defensively.
That's why, harsh as it might sound, I instantly disregard posters as having a credible opinion if they make statements like 'McTominay would only be bought by Forest' or 'nobody would want Maguire'.
If you put McTominay in a mid-table scrapper side, he'd look good. Put him in a side who are supposed, in theory, to have most of the ball and were the CMs are meant to be 'press-resistant' and forward-thinking and he struggles at times.
His biggest issue, for what it's worth, is that he can't play on the half-turn. This comes from playing for years in the Academy as a CF or AM*. He doesn't have those 'eyes in the back of his head' that top CMs develop through years' of practice and he doesn't receive the ball at the right angles to be able to quickly turn into space and move the ball through the lines. He knows this too, by the way, and that's why he hides and doesn't show to receive the ball from the back four.....because he isn't comfortable.
Of course, this is incredibly difficult to do at Premier League level. Scholes was a master of it, but look at virtually any player likely to pop-up in central areas at City and they're all superb at it.
* I know and have played with a few lads who were in the United Academy at like U-11s/U-12s etc....they say that even at that age, the coaches drill them relentlessly on 'twitching', which involves practising looking over both shoulders as the ball is fizzed into you. The ability to do this at speed plays a large part in what level you can achieve as a midfield player. Anybody from semi-pro upwards can strike a nice ball and make a nice pass....but can you do it a ridiculous pace under pressure from the best players in the World....? Not many can.
To be fair, Chicharito played for Real Madrid.It’s worth remembering that even if he’d only go to West Ham, Leicester, Everton, Wolves or similar that doesn’t mean he is necessarily not good enough for Utd.
Big clubs have many squad players whoyou don’t have a second thought about. The likes of O’Shea, Welbeck, Javier Hernandez didn’t move on to other top clubs. Were they not players who contributed at the club?
What we need is for McTominay to be a solid backup option and anything he does more than that is a benefit on top of that.
Lovely post, spot on.The problem some of our supporters have in objectively assessing the abilities of our squad members is that they forget that it's immeasurably more difficult to perform the CM role or the CB role or the full-back role for a team like United, as opposed to a club like Wolves or Leicester.
Even if we leave aside the pressure and the expectation and the fact that every opponent raises their game against you - there's just so much more demanded of you in terms of being able to keep the ball under pressure, pick passes through the lines and cover bigger spaces defensively.
That's why, harsh as it might sound, I instantly disregard posters as having a credible opinion if they make statements like 'McTominay would only be bought by Forest' or 'nobody would want Maguire'.
If you put McTominay in a mid-table scrapper side, he'd look good. Put him in a side who are supposed, in theory, to have most of the ball and were the CMs are meant to be 'press-resistant' and forward-thinking and he struggles at times.
His biggest issue, for what it's worth, is that he can't play on the half-turn. This comes from playing for years in the Academy as a CF or AM*. He doesn't have those 'eyes in the back of his head' that top CMs develop through years' of practice and he doesn't receive the ball at the right angles to be able to quickly turn into space and move the ball through the lines. He knows this too, by the way, and that's why he hides and doesn't show to receive the ball from the back four.....because he isn't comfortable.
Of course, this is incredibly difficult to do at Premier League level. Scholes was a master of it, but look at virtually any player likely to pop-up in central areas at City and they're all superb at it.
* I know and have played with a few lads who were in the United Academy at like U-11s/U-12s etc....they say that even at that age, the coaches drill them relentlessly on 'twitching', which involves practising looking over both shoulders as the ball is fizzed into you. The ability to do this at speed plays a large part in what level you can achieve as a midfield player. Anybody from semi-pro upwards can strike a nice ball and make a nice pass....but can you do it a ridiculous pace under pressure from the best players in the World....? Not many can.
He'd thrive in a Bielsa team, not so sure about March. Haven't seen enough.If wasn't for the rivalry I would say Mctominay would make a good replacement for Phillips at leeds