Completely unaccurate.
These "deadline" reports are all crap.
First there was a 30th June deadline, now its Friday, then it will be 31st July. then deadline day.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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These "deadline" reports are all crap.
First there was a 30th June deadline, now its Friday, then it will be 31st July. then deadline day.
Some posters are going to end up with egg on their face here. Or to phrase it differently...'in the mud #mudded'
i hope so. I want to believe!
I fear that he will decide to stay knowing he will probably find a way in to the team. Then he can keep his cash
Makes a lot of sense, so hopefully 100% accurate.
He's already pissing me off that guy.
If Barcelona aren't paying him I don't see him staying there under any circumstances, even if they make him whole, they're hardly a destination for ambitious players right now.
Whether he comes to us I am far less convinced about.
Whether he comes to us I am far less convinced about.
I think this is what the Friday deadline is for, only think left to sort is the argument between FdJ and Barca, up to them now
Necromancers are few and far between, I suppose.
Many of the rags ran with this when pictures of our heads in Barcelona surfaced and linked it to talkSPORT
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Its literally a standoff now between de Jong and Barca. Murtough and Arnold went to Barca i imagine to sort the standoff with the fee and addons, not to convince de Jong as people are speculating. Their job is done as far as they're concerned.
The fact they've agreed the fee, they're very confident that he wants to come as they wouldn't go to all this effort for nothing in my opinion. Its all down to Barca and de Jong now
The fact they've agreed the fee, they're very confident that he wants to come as they wouldn't go to all this effort for nothing in my opinion. Its all down to Barca and de Jong now
If Frankie goes on tour with Barca on the 16th then we should move on..
Oh no. Apparently there wasn't an agreement with the player and we still decided to waste 2 months chasing him
They've made a fool out of the kid. What's the total sum he's owed, $17 million!?
That's insane. It's hard to imagine that relationship with Barca being anything but irreparable. So I think he'll join us but it might not be until a messy court case after his contract runs out.
His contract runs out in 2026
Because of the Ten Hag connection, you'd have to believe, or hope, that FDJ & his agent were sounded out months ago, and if it had be a flat NO, then we wouldn't still be banging our heads against a brickwall.
FDJ's agent was even at Carrington recently because of Malacia, so we surely must be getting the go ahead from FDJ's team....Surely...!!
I refuse to believe ETH only has one option that will work in his midfield. Problem is other options now know we have been so desperate to sign somebody else instead.
Bale seemed to have done exactly that for a few years and got every good at golf
Not at all. He has a contract with Barca, and they have to honour it, or pay him compensation. He can just refuse the pay cut and stay there on his agreed salary. Barca can't afford this, and other players will demand higher salaries, so they will be forced to transfer him out and pay the deferred wage payments. Only a broken fax machine can stop this transfer from happening!!!
I refuse to believe United big dogs flew out to Barcelona for this nonsense
It's to force Barca to pay his deferred wages knowing that by not doing so they will have no choice but to continue to pay his wages, which they clearly can't afford.
It's a game of poker with de Jong holding all the cards
I dont understand why its that hard to understand..
He isnt desperate to leave.. there is no way he leaves if he misses out on a huge amount which he (rightfully) believes is his and something Barca are trying to screw him out of.
If Barca want him off their books, they have to give him what they owe him.. if not, he knows him staying put will hurt Barca more.
If they do pay him off, he'll happily leave.. who would want to stay at a club thats trying to force you out the way Barca are doing..
There is nothing for us to do here.. wait .. its between barca and De jong.. or more accurately, just down to Barca, because De Jong isnt going to give in..
He isnt desperate to leave.. there is no way he leaves if he misses out on a huge amount which he (rightfully) believes is his and something Barca are trying to screw him out of.
If Barca want him off their books, they have to give him what they owe him.. if not, he knows him staying put will hurt Barca more.
If they do pay him off, he'll happily leave.. who would want to stay at a club thats trying to force you out the way Barca are doing..
There is nothing for us to do here.. wait .. its between barca and De jong.. or more accurately, just down to Barca, because De Jong isnt going to give in..
Madrid actually had the money to pay him, Barca don’t forget FDJ
Either way, they did.
If they know FDJ wants to join, they also know that there is a deadlock between player and club yet still went to try force the deal through and you can argue that is fair enough but they've left empty handed after a 3rd meeting.
I think a lot of this is between de Jong and Barca, but the initial agreement will likely have been a factor too.
It's on Barca now to get this sorted quickly. They want him gone, it's no secret, so I imagine they'll tell him that now in a subtle fashion that he's not welcome anymore unless he takes an insane pay cut
Exactly. They either pay him what they owe him now and he moves on, getting him off the wage bill.
Or he stays, pays him what they owe him anyway, plus a shit tonne more next year when the salary goes up again.
Barca can play hard ball all they like but they have no strength here. They'll have to cave in eventually.
Or you know De Jong has been stringing Ten Hag along all this time?Because of the Ten Hag connection, you'd have to believe, or hope, that FDJ & his agent were sounded out months ago, and if it had be a flat NO, then we wouldn't still be banging our heads against a brickwall.
FDJ's agent was even at Carrington recently because of Malacia, so we surely must be getting the go ahead from FDJ's team....Surely...!!
We should push for it until the last minute of the window. Maybe its true that he would prefer to stay there, but this is irrelevant. He's a high paid professional and its a world cup year.
How do you know what was said? Because Romano and Romero say they've not agreed with de Jong yet? The big one for them is the issues with the fee. That's totally agreed now apparently.
It's now time for Barca and de Jong to sort their issues out and come to a conclusion. De Jong doesn't want another pay cut, Barca don't want to and frankly can't afford to pay them. He'll likely be told that if he genuinely love and cares for the club and wants what's best for them, hell take the transfer
Whatever it is, just two more days to the so called deadline and we’ll know if this deal happens. We’ll look like desperate muppets if this rumbles on after this week
If he wants to stay so badly why would he even pick up the phone?
Negotiating your exit doesn't sound like a very smart way of staying does it
Who’s that? The Barca ceo / xavi?
All frenkie has done is stay quiet whilst an agreement is made over the €17m he is owed or he sits on his fat contract Barca can’t afford
only going one way
He can't force anything, he is but a tiny, tiny cog in a far greater machine!
The best he can do is stay put and hope they find the money in the years ahead, at that point it could go to a court I'm sure if they broke the terms of the contract.
His current contract runs until 2026!
Yeah saying he doesn't want to leave Barca repeatedly definitely doesnt feck your theory up.
If the report is right that we've left Barcelona and haven't made the deal happen, I'd consider it over and move on.
In a vain attempt to get Barca to pay the money he is owed.
He is owed that money regardless of our interest or not.
Yep on tour with Barca on Saturday
Ah yes taking everything at face value because some twitter guys say its the truth. You and I have absolutely no idea what's going on behind the scenes or what's being said behind closed doors.
The negativity in here is shocking but not entirely unexpected to be fair
Slight contradiction your saying they have to pay him if he leaves but if he leaves they don’t owe him anything because of the new deferred contract, at best he stays and takes a huge pay cut, my pint is why are we being dragged into this, even ETH will understand that their are transfer, then there are difficult transfers and then there are impossible transfers so let’s just move on and get Tielemans, a proper destructive CDM and C Eriksen. I mean we could probably get N Kante(15), Eriksen(F), Y Tielemans (30) and Dumfries (30) for the same value as FDJ and without the £65M they are getting Barca plans would go up in smoke .
He can force it. If he refuses the paycut and refuses to leave, Barca are fecked because of the salary cap. Unless you've some information I'm not aware of.
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