As in Chelsea are going to pay his deferred wages? Is that what you mean?
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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But but but it's all bollocks cause Chelsea don't need him.
Well it sounds as if their interest is real, but this paragraph could also be written about us:
“They are speaking to Barcelona about the 25-year-old and are optimistic of striking a deal.”
We’ve already done that and Ornstein doesn’t have any updates that suggest FDJ has been more receptive to Chelsea, or has changed his stance on the wages issue given alternative interest from Chelsea.
Shit.
I don't think its a matter of paying more, we agreed a fee with Barca long ago. Its the player preferring to play in the champions league in London, rather than in the Europa league in Manchester and Ten Hag wasn't that much of a swing factor.
Reminds me of Pedro
Interesting days ahead. How the wage dispute gets resolved, if it does, with Chelsea around.
We can’t really complain either. We’ve spent all summer chasing a player who has chained himself to his chair, then with a week to go until the season kicks off decided we want one of Wolves best players. They’ve every right to demand top whack, they probably won’t replace him.
Okay. Think about what you just said…
The money he has been chasing all summer he’s willing to negotiate on because now he gets to play UCL?
Where is the slap face emoji
Huh, well yeah as expected.
Pursuing fdj for so long was always going to be high risk high reward, and those usually don't work for us.
Wolves are desperate for cash, and we'd be coming to them with a few weeks left in the window to find a replacement, with them knowing were in a hurry after missing out on a big target. Yeah, they'll want a fair wodge of cash.
Well it seems like the theory he might prefer ETH to CL and London might be put to test now
Yes, but Neves is nowhere near FdJ's quality or type of player really. Not to mention he will not be worth the money Wolves ask for him. I think we might end up signing Sesko regardless.
If they do sign him and not massively overpay, then it never was the wages.
Possibly, yes.
give it upGood. Now we can stop using FDJ as an excuse for not signing the attacker and midfielder we should have signed 2 fecking months ago. An absolute clusterfeck of a window.
If we have truly wasted 13 odd weeks trying to get a player that we didn’t get assurances from that he actually wanted to come here then this isn’t changed at all. Still the same old sh*t.
Whose house are a protesting outside of this time?
Whose house are a protesting outside of this time?
Feck me, that's bloody tragic. Sad sods.
Romano is usually quick to weigh in when others have news.
Spin it, twist it, double-think it all you want - this is a fact.
Absolutely Hilarious! Neves please 
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Seriously though if I were him I’d go to Chelsea to which is a tad sad.
.Seriously though if I were him I’d go to Chelsea to which is a tad sad.
If this is indeed what's going down, ETH's house if he insisted on De Jong and that he was willing to come
If he prefers London and Champions League (as has been speculated for a little while including Gary Neville's tweet yesterday) he may be willing to make more concessions. I don't think that's an entirely unreasonable thing.
Nothing about this surprises me in the least. It's on par for the course with this club. Follow the worst season in recent memory with a humiliating disaster of a transfer window.
That's not exactly the most outrageous assumption. It's seemed clear all along that he's not very keen to join United so presumably he's been happy to hold a deal up and decided if he is going to be forced out to somewhere he doesn't want to go then he's going to get his money. If he's more open to joining Chelsea, a Champions League team based in London, then maybe he's willing to accept a lower amount from Barcelona.
First and foremost, I still think we'll sign him, but in the event we don't, Ten Hag deserves a huge percentage of the blame. We're clearly going for his targets, and it'll be his choice we've given up the entire summer to get him.
Yup, saw that too, and that is all there is to it, the new thing is that now Chelsea is talking to Barca about De Jong, United had done that already and agreed a fee too.
De Jong or his camp are still quite on all of this.
SURELY we’re at a point now where we can just say to De Jong “decide today if you want to join us or we’ll move on”
It’s stupid wasting time rebuilding our squad for someone who is now talking to Chelsea
It’s stupid wasting time rebuilding our squad for someone who is now talking to Chelsea
Maybe it was me that's been in the mud this whole time...
I don’t think the idea of blame is especially useful but both the club and ETH will look utterly naive if they can’t get this over the line. It would undermine the beginning of his time here.
I see where you're coming from, but if United moved on from the transfer weeks ago, a lot of noises would've been made how United didn't back the manager and didn't deliver his targets. They still didn't, if he goes to Chelsea, of course, but for different reasons, mind
Based on what? That is sounds good to you?
How does playing Champions League football make you change your stance on missing out on money? Barcelona play Champions League football. If he stays he gets his money and Champions League football.
He’s not going nowhere without his money bro. He’s made that pretty clear and I’m sure he will stick it out.
If Chelsea decide to pay him his money plus having Champions League football.. then I agree I’m sure he’ll be up for that.
All we can go by is what FDJ is telling us. Maybe he lied knowing he never wanted to leave in the first place?
It's not really the clubs fault, we've pushed as hard as we can.
If Chelsea are truly interested then we will see whether he's still desperate to stay. If he just doesn't want to join us then there isn't much we can do is there?
ETH can give his targets. Its up to the club to work out a deal/ decide to move on to another option.
I agree ETH does shoulder some of the blame. If FDJ has been leading ETH on for 13 weeks and indicated he was happy to be made the key piece in his rebuild at the biggest club in England and now Chelsea have arrived after rejection from 70 other players and he’s off there it also makes him look like a bit of a cnut - clearly they weren’t close.
I’m feeling the most pessimistic about this now that I ever have and I’m expecting more updates in Chelsea’s favour today. We’ll know by tonight if we’re still chasing him I think
Should be a protest or whatever against the club's management all the time. These guys have managed to turn a club from being the strongest and richest in England, to a club not even out of favour players in other teams would like to come to. Because they've fecked up the transfer strategy for more than 10 transfer windows in a row. Rival team fans laugh at the idea of us challenging for the league. Even our own fans will literally say that our rivals are no longer City or Liverpool, but Arsenal, Spurs, and West Ham. Seriously our worst season in 30 years where it was categorically demonstrated how useless our midfield is, and we've done almost nothing to fix it. Giving power of transfers and squad building to another manager instead of an experienced DOF, when the same strategy has failed for Moyes, LvG, Mourinho, and Ole. We're failing to get targets that would massively improve the team because they're either not Dutch or not affiliated with Ajax. We need new owners, it literally can't get any worse than this.
Be it to us or to Chelsea or any other club for that matter, the one thing that we are sure about is that De Jong won't leave Barcelona until his deferred wages issue is settled, once that is settled with Barca (meaning Barca will have to pay him a number that is acceptable to De Jong), then we will know where De Jong would go, and another thing is that Chelsea and Barca are yet to agree a fee here, let's wait and see how much Chelsea will be willing to pay to Barcelona.
The Caf: fecking back the manager!
Also the Caf: move on from his target and sign someone else without trying
Murtough masterclass.
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