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As in Chelsea are going to pay his deferred wages? Is that what you mean?That's that then I think, either we pay more or it's over. Chelsea won't mess about.
As in Chelsea are going to pay his deferred wages? Is that what you mean?That's that then I think, either we pay more or it's over. Chelsea won't mess about.
But but but it's all bollocks cause Chelsea don't need him.
Well it sounds as if their interest is real, but this paragraph could also be written about us:Tweet
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Ok. Now we panic
I don't think its a matter of paying more, we agreed a fee with Barca long ago. Its the player preferring to play in the champions league in London, rather than in the Europa league in Manchester and Ten Hag wasn't that much of a swing factor.That's that then I think, either we pay more or it's over. Chelsea won't mess about.
We can’t really complain either. We’ve spent all summer chasing a player who has chained himself to his chair, then with a week to go until the season kicks off decided we want one of Wolves best players. They’ve every right to demand top whack, they probably won’t replace him.What is the price mentioned for Neves? I assume they will try to skin us with similar money as we offered for fdj?
Okay. Think about what you just said…He might come to an agreement with Barcelona that he will accept half of deferred wage as they are selling him to a CL Club.
Last price mentioned was about £80m. That was several weeks ago, though
Huh, well yeah as expected.We can’t really complain either. We’ve spent all summer chasing a player who has chained himself to his chair, then with a week to go until the season kicks off decided we want one of Wolves best players. They’ve every right to demand top whack, they probably won’t replace him.
Wolves are desperate for cash, and we'd be coming to them with a few weeks left in the window to find a replacement, with them knowing were in a hurry after missing out on a big target. Yeah, they'll want a fair wodge of cash.What is the price mentioned for Neves? I assume they will try to skin us with similar money as we offered for fdj?
Well it seems like the theory he might prefer ETH to CL and London might be put to test nowWell it sounds as if their interest is real, but this paragraph could also be written about us:
“They are speaking to Barcelona about the 25-year-old and are optimistic of striking a deal.”
We’ve already done that and Ornstein doesn’t have any updates that suggest FDJ has been more receptive to Chelsea, or has changed his stance on the wages issue given alternative interest from Chelsea.
Yes, but Neves is nowhere near FdJ's quality or type of player really. Not to mention he will not be worth the money Wolves ask for him. I think we might end up signing Sesko regardless.If we’re not total morons we’ve had Neves primed for a while anyway. Maybe they’ll surprise us and add Tielemans and Sesko in for good measure. Yeah me neither.
If they do sign him and not massively overpay, then it never was the wages.I don't understand how Chelsea are going to sign him, does the deferred wages issue suddenly disappear if the team bidding on him wears blue, is in the CL and play in London?
Possibly, yes.As in Chelsea are going to pay his deferred wages? Is that what you mean?
give it upHe’s still coming
Feck me, that's bloody tragic. Sad sods.Being right > actual good things for the club.
Spin it, twist it, double-think it all you want - this is a fact.Good. Now we can stop using FDJ as an excuse for not signing the attacker and midfielder we should have signed 2 fecking months ago. An absolute clusterfeck of a window.
If this is indeed what's going down, ETH's house if he insisted on De Jong and that he was willing to comeIf we have truly wasted 13 odd weeks trying to get a player that we didn’t get assurances from that he actually wanted to come here then this isn’t changed at all. Still the same old sh*t.
Whose house are a protesting outside of this time?
If he prefers London and Champions League (as has been speculated for a little while including Gary Neville's tweet yesterday) he may be willing to make more concessions. I don't think that's an entirely unreasonable thing.I don't understand how Chelsea are going to sign him, does the deferred wages issue suddenly disappear if the team bidding on him wears blue, is in the CL and play in London?
That's not exactly the most outrageous assumption. It's seemed clear all along that he's not very keen to join United so presumably he's been happy to hold a deal up and decided if he is going to be forced out to somewhere he doesn't want to go then he's going to get his money. If he's more open to joining Chelsea, a Champions League team based in London, then maybe he's willing to accept a lower amount from Barcelona.Okay. Think about what you just said…
The money he has been chasing all summer he’s willing to negotiate on because now he gets to play UCL?
Where is the slap face emoji
First and foremost, I still think we'll sign him, but in the event we don't, Ten Hag deserves a huge percentage of the blame. We're clearly going for his targets, and it'll be his choice we've given up the entire summer to get him.If we have truly wasted 13 odd weeks trying to get a player that we didn’t get assurances from that he actually wanted to come here then this isn’t changed at all. Still the same old sh*t.
Whose house are a protesting outside of this time?
Yup, saw that too, and that is all there is to it, the new thing is that now Chelsea is talking to Barca about De Jong, United had done that already and agreed a fee too.Well it sounds as if their interest is real, but this paragraph could also be written about us:
“They are speaking to Barcelona about the 25-year-old and are optimistic of striking a deal.”
We’ve already done that and Ornstein doesn’t have any updates that suggest FDJ has been more receptive to Chelsea, or has changed his stance on the wages issue given alternative interest from Chelsea.
I don’t think the idea of blame is especially useful but both the club and ETH will look utterly naive if they can’t get this over the line. It would undermine the beginning of his time here.First and foremost, I still think we'll sign him, but in the event we don't, Ten Hag deserves a huge percentage of the blame. We're clearly going for his targets, and it'll be his choice we've given up the entire summer to get him.
I see where you're coming from, but if United moved on from the transfer weeks ago, a lot of noises would've been made how United didn't back the manager and didn't deliver his targets. They still didn't, if he goes to Chelsea, of course, but for different reasons, mindI don’t think the idea of blame is especially useful but both the club and ETH will look utterly naive if they can’t get this over the line. It would undermine the beginning of his time here.
Based on what? That is sounds good to you?That's not exactly the most outrageous assumption. It's seemed clear all along that he's not very keen to join United so presumably he's been happy to hold a deal up and decided if he is going to be forced out to somewhere he doesn't want to go then he's going to get his money. If he's more open to joining Chelsea, a Champions League team based in London, then maybe he's willing to accept a lower amount from Barcelona.
All we can go by is what FDJ is telling us. Maybe he lied knowing he never wanted to leave in the first place?If we have truly wasted 13 odd weeks trying to get a player that we didn’t get assurances from that he actually wanted to come here then this isn’t changed at all. Still the same old sh*t.
Whose house are a protesting outside of this time?
ETH can give his targets. Its up to the club to work out a deal/ decide to move on to another option.First and foremost, I still think we'll sign him, but in the event we don't, Ten Hag deserves a huge percentage of the blame. We're clearly going for his targets, and it'll be his choice we've given up the entire summer to get him.
I agree ETH does shoulder some of the blame. If FDJ has been leading ETH on for 13 weeks and indicated he was happy to be made the key piece in his rebuild at the biggest club in England and now Chelsea have arrived after rejection from 70 other players and he’s off there it also makes him look like a bit of a cnut - clearly they weren’t close.First and foremost, I still think we'll sign him, but in the event we don't, Ten Hag deserves a huge percentage of the blame. We're clearly going for his targets, and it'll be his choice we've given up the entire summer to get him.
Should be a protest or whatever against the club's management all the time. These guys have managed to turn a club from being the strongest and richest in England, to a club not even out of favour players in other teams would like to come to. Because they've fecked up the transfer strategy for more than 10 transfer windows in a row. Rival team fans laugh at the idea of us challenging for the league. Even our own fans will literally say that our rivals are no longer City or Liverpool, but Arsenal, Spurs, and West Ham. Seriously our worst season in 30 years where it was categorically demonstrated how useless our midfield is, and we've done almost nothing to fix it. Giving power of transfers and squad building to another manager instead of an experienced DOF, when the same strategy has failed for Moyes, LvG, Mourinho, and Ole. We're failing to get targets that would massively improve the team because they're either not Dutch or not affiliated with Ajax. We need new owners, it literally can't get any worse than this.If we have truly wasted 13 odd weeks trying to get a player that we didn’t get assurances from that he actually wanted to come here then this isn’t changed at all. Still the same old sh*t.
Whose house are a protesting outside of this time?
The Caf: fecking back the manager!ETH can give his targets. Its up to the club to work out a deal/ decide to move on to another option.