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Ten Hag or jail?
You're reading too much into Tuchel's comment and making assumptions that he's not the one behind any club interest in De Jong. He only said the club currently have other priorities, not that he doesn't think midfield needs any improvements.Can’t see Chelsea’s interest being all that credible after Tuchels comments. I wonder if the manager not really on board is harming their bid
He also recently said you don't want to be playing 2-7-1You're reading too much into Tuchel's comment and making assumptions that he's not the one behind any club interest in De Jong. He only said the club currently have other priorities, not that he doesn't think midfield needs any improvements.
With two bids already rejected and a third one about to go in later this week it's clear Fofana is the current priority target but assuming he gets Fofana in the bag and Boehly says there's enough funds left to do a deal for De Jong as well, why wouldn't Tuchel be on board with it?
A forward might also be needed at Chelsea if Werner and Hudson-Odoi leave but like you lot must have noticed with chasing the likes of Arnautovic it's really slim pickings out there at the moment so I'd guess any forward signing would likely be a cheap one that wouldn't eat too much into the transfer funds.
How have you taken that from today's updates?Been saying for weeks the twat was stringing ETH along now we know for sure.
It could have been worse, you could have over 2000 posts in the threadThats such a non update. I'm fed up of this saga, we've looked like idiots this entire summer
They've spent over £150m on Sterling, Koulibaly, Cucurella, Chukwuemeka and Slonina already, haven't sold anyone for any significant amount of money and if reports are correct they want to spend £180m on FDJ and Fofana. That's more than £330m just there. Not unthinkable that a striker would push the total close to - or even over - £400m at all.£400m+ where did you get that from?
It's a common tactic. Write about every possible scenario so when one of them happens (obviously), the writer is "right".So which is which? Because a better reporter is saying he's not made a decision and doesn't have a preference yet when Mitten is saying he'd prefer Chelsea
Mitten also said that Utd are still being assured a deal can be done
Well for one, Chelsea need a striker, so after Fofana, they have another position thats priority.You're reading too much into Tuchel's comment and making assumptions that he's not the one behind any club interest in De Jong. He only said the club currently have other priorities, not that he doesn't think midfield needs any improvements.
With two bids already rejected and a third one about to go in later this week it's clear Fofana is the current priority target but assuming he gets Fofana in the bag and Boehly says there's enough funds left to do a deal for De Jong as well, why wouldn't Tuchel be on board with it?
A forward might also be needed at Chelsea if Werner and Hudson-Odoi leave but like you lot must have noticed with chasing the likes of Arnautovic it's really slim pickings out there at the moment so I'd guess any forward signing would likely be a cheap one that wouldn't eat too much into the transfer funds.
Sesko is being quoted circa £50m and Chelski were also strongly linked with Denzil Dumfries at £30m....They've spent over £150m on Sterling, Koulibaly, Cucurella, Chukwuemeka and Slonina already, haven't sold anyone for any significant amount of money and if reports are correct they want to spend £180m on FDJ and Fofana. That's more than £330m just there. Not unthinkable that a striker would push the total close to - or even over - £400m at all.
Considering this would give you an additional man on the pitch, I'd say you absolutely want to be playing that formation if you can get away with it.He also recently said you don't want to be playing 2-7-2
Neville looking after our FrenkiePoor Frenkie will be holding T-Bag's pocket before long.
Ha edited it was 2-7-1 not 2-7-2Considering this would give you an additional man on the pitch, I'd say you absolutely want to be playing that formation if you can get away with it.
Seems to me then all obstacles are clear for Chelsea to make it happen.Orney is at it again.
I appreciate the point being made here, but perhaps it can be made without adding tens of millions to every transfer?£60m Sterling, £72m Cucerella, £40m Koulibaly. Add that to the £200m above and it’s close to £400m.
If I understand it correctly the issue with Bartomeu offer is the way the deal was structured and De Jong's future earnings. Now from De Jong's standpoint, there is a bigger issue, he wants the money that he was owed based on the contract signed in 2019 not the 2021 contract, so Barcelona are full of it, he simply wants the money that was owed between 2019 and 2022, not the prohibitive amounts that will be owed after 2022.Bit troubling that they apparently informed him about this three weeks ago. It's not a new development and he still doesn't seem to want out
Welcome to our world, be glad he didn't include wages over five yearsI appreciate the point being made here, but perhaps it can be made without adding tens of millions to every transfer?
Its also been said we're ready to do what Ornstein said, once we get any sort of hint that FdJ will leave Barca. So if we havent, it lends even more weight to the theory that he just isnt going to moveAnd doesn't he want to go to Chelsea? You'd think this deal would have happened
Well maybe they will offload some of their players. They might not be short of options in midfield but FdJ is a good option for them.It's all well and good being ambitious, but when you have so many quality players and limited positions, you're going to struggle to keep them happy and it's going to go south very quickly
Is there any specific or predetermined time to have a pop at Glazers? I have not been informed about it.Yeah a club spending £400m is definitely the time to have a pop at the Glazers
Better? I'd say we're worse. Barca are only in the financial trouble they are due to their want to stay competitive (however ill advised some of the decisions have been) our owners don't give a feck about that as long as they're making moneyThis whole thing is an absolute fecking mess. Should’ve never got involved with Barcelona in the first place, a shambles of a club and we’re not much better.
I thought he included wages at first, but realised it was just an extra £30m just randomly added on topWelcome to our world, be glad he didn't include wages over five years
But its also said the issue is with his deferred wages.Its also been said we're ready to do what Ornstein said, once we get any sort of hint that FdJ will leave Barca. So if we havent, it lends even more weight to the theory that he just isnt going to move
jesusHe's not gonna come here anyway why bother. No sane footballer would come to United right now if they cared for their careers.
and a forward after thatFofana is by far and away the priority for us right now. I think that’s all Tuchel was alluding to with his comments on Saturday.
Yeah, think you’ve just answered your own question.Would we still be pursuing this if we have signed Rabiot?
The obvious answer is yes but then again we are run (like a shit show) by the Glazers so who knows.
Ornstein says that he has no preferece on where he wants to go.Mitten has also said more than a few times that de Jong prefers London over Manchester. Add in rich and new ambitious chelsea owner and I’m perplexed as to why so many believe that this move will still happen.
You have to give them credit for both trying to meet their objectives and the creative ways they are applying them. From the shady business agreements to the public pronouncement of love for Frenkie and yet wanting him to leave to the range of clubs who are interested in buying him despite having agreed with United and more.How would returning to the previous contract work anyway? Surely it's the contract where he was on more money and which they now owe him wages for, so exactly the position they're currently in with him.
True that. Our owners sat and watched that shit show yesterday and decided to give ETH Rabiot and Arnautovic as reinforcements. A real show of ambition from the club right there.Better? I'd say we're worse. Barca are only in the financial trouble they are due to their want to stay competitive (however ill advised some of the decisions have been) our owners don't give a feck about that as long as they're making money
My guess is, despite all the reports suggesting he'd prefer Chelsea , he still much prefers staying at Barca, so unless Chelsea get an indication from De Jong that he would gladly leave Barca and sign for us, Chelsea won't make an official move.But its also said the issue is with his deferred wages.
Chelsea are willing to pay them, so if they're willing to pay them, he'd surely come? Something doesn't add up here at all. I still don't think Chelseas interest is as solid as the media make out to be. I think Barca are HUGELY exaggerating it