You only have to look at Newcastle to see what a change in ownership can do for the fortunes of a club. Obviously the changes won't be as extreme as that for United, but if new owners are ambitious and bring spending power, most of those things will fall into place by themselves.
The Centre Forward Stop-Gap Market
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Better option than McNeill
Newcastle is the equivalent of a terraced house in a decent area. Put a lock of paint, arrange the place and voila the price goes up by a couple of tens of thousands. United is the equivalent of a villa in a prestigious area. You are paying for the prestige of living there. You don't sell that with the a hole in the roof and bathrooms leaking. That would reduce the price significantly
I agree with this. Sometimes they just need the opportunity. It maybe easier for some to play in front of 70,000 at OT and feel the pressure is off. Every player is different some thrive some wilter.
I dont watch the U21's, but id give mcneil, hugill a chance (i dont know any other u21 strikers). All it takes is a scuffed shot and their career can take off. Albeit either a rashford or macheda.
I don't know any of the U21's either, I'd never seen Rashford, Elanga, Greenwood prior to them making the jump, and lets face it, we'd be better off knowing whether they can handle it sooner rather than later
A teardown in good location is holding it’s worth, because tou can’t replace location. Much as you can’t buy our history.
Now that Al Nassr have Cristiano, I wonder if we'd look at Aboubakar as a plan C #9 loan option behind Memphis and Joao Felix. I could see that going okay for 4 months. He's a pretty decent striker, likely better than Cristiano at this stage. On a longer-term deal, no, but for 4 months, I think he'd score some goals and link up okay and be a real threat coming on for Martial after an hour which hopefully keeps the Frenchman healthy. Keeps saying he's better than Salah, so he's a bit of a nutter, and he won't press at all, but if we can't get Memphis or Joao on loan, I'd probably take him over rushing to overpay a #9 in January we aren't sure is the guy.
Just get felix in on a loan ffs
There was time he looked good up top vs Wolves away under Ole in our final game of the season.
Antony can play up top too, think I rather have him there and Amad at RW if it came to that.
What could possibly go wrong?I can't say I've seen much of him, but if Marcus Thuram is available for around £10m then on paper that seems a decent option. He's versatile and in good form this season, made an impact in the WC final. Even if he turns out to be average then we should still be able to sell him on in 12-18 months to a mid-table side and probably for a higher fee.
I like Marcus, was a big fan of Lilian and checked him out some when he first started to appear in the top leagues. He is fast for someone his size, works hard. He doesn’t quiet have an elite first touch, but he is perfectly OK.
But he is free to sign with anyone on July 1. He will want to get paid a lot. Sign-on fees etc are rarely reported, but someone like MT will of course easily get 10m. On top of that he will want a high weekly salary. 5 years?
I just fear that we view him as a stop gap option but get stuck with him long term.
Let's start from history. Its BS. Ac Milan has as much history as we do, they are located in a much nicer city and they have far more CL wins then us and they are nowhere near as priced as we are. What makes United attractive is its fan base. As Chelsea and City has learnt that require generations to build
Yet united are in decline. Sponsorships are leaving, more and more kids see us as yesterday news (a bit like the Facebook version of football) and the infrastructure is crumbling. We are still worth billions but the Glazers valuation is that of a prime United which we are not.
That is why I wonder why they can't spare an extra 30m-40m to improve our chances for CL qualification. If the sale stalls and we don't make it to CL qualification then that could probably cost them 3 times as much
I recently bought a villa in a very prime location. A leaking bathroom was enough to chip 200k off its price (which was already price reduced as the interior was dated). The excuse was that id have to do ample structural work (change of all tiles, electrics, water, change of all bathrooms etc) as it evident that its failing. That was a problem as contractors take age to find and months to do the work, that neighbours there had enough contacts to delay the works even further, that it would take me nearly a year to go into it and meanwhile i would have to move house twice and rent. It was all BS as I had contacts myself who were able to do the works in 2 months with no disruption whatsoever. Ultimately it costed me 140k to renovate it all (most had nothing to do to the bathroom) which I am paying in installments (no interest) and had increased the property value by 400k. The poor sod paid for it himself and made me 460k richer.
Prestige and shabbiness don't mix well together
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Martin Terrier, maybe?
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We really need a top class striker.
But not a good one. A really really good one is what we need.
But not a good one. A really really good one is what we need.
Yep, a world class Striker, nothing less.
We need another world class CM to dominate games, Eriksen is great but he won't give us that final push we need a ball carrier at the top level.
What about Jimenez? We were linked before his injury - and while he hasn’t been the same guy since he may do a job as back up. Certainly the big target man we’re missing. I read he may be available too - as long as Wolves can replace him. Wonder if Lopetegui doesn’t fancy him?
Another option could be Morelos at Rangers? He’s out of contract in the summer but I don’t know enough about him.
Another option could be Morelos at Rangers? He’s out of contract in the summer but I don’t know enough about him.
Sign the absolute best striker that becomes remotely available and we could have an incredible 2nd part of season
Antonio from West Ham could be a shout - maguire as a temp loan swap??
Interesting suggestion!
Joshua King is another guy I think would do better and fit better than many think. He is a superb presser and have excellent work ethic. Good team player.
If course it’s not the first option or second option or third option, and so forth, you should look at — but at some point it becomes about just finding someone who can just come in and do a job and not disturb things.
He's not that good. Would rather go for Kolo Muani.
I hope we make a last push and get Dusan from Juventus. Looks like a quality 20 goals quality signing.
You’re all going to be sooooo disappointed when we go back in for Arnautovic on deadline day
We are Manchester United, why would we go for these non World Class Strikers??
We should go for the likes of Leao, Lautaro Martinez, Vlahovic, etc. I fail to understand why we won't be able to get them. Perhaps we should wait on the new ownership but once we can buy, we should go for these type of strikers. Only then will we be able to run for the nr 1 spot again.
We should go for the likes of Leao, Lautaro Martinez, Vlahovic, etc. I fail to understand why we won't be able to get them. Perhaps we should wait on the new ownership but once we can buy, we should go for these type of strikers. Only then will we be able to run for the nr 1 spot again.
I guess that's what's going to happen no matter what!You’re all going to be sooooo disappointed when we go back in for Arnautovic on deadline day
You’re all going to be sooooo disappointed when we go back in for Arnautovic on deadline day
I would love it. (Hope its possible, but its hard)
Only way whatsoever we could spend on a striker in January is selling Maguire,however think the chances of that happening are none.
Not really because that's the level we are gonna be shopping at this windowYou’re all going to be sooooo disappointed when we go back in for Arnautovic on deadline day
We shouldn’t go anywhere near Lautaro Martinez as he’s fecking awful, Leao is a left sided attacker who’s not as good as what we’ve got already and Vlahovic only signed for Juve about 6 months ago so will cost €100 million+ which we don’t currently have.
We all know we won’t do the business and that will ruin any chance of silverware this season. Glazers always do the same. Just saved £500k a week with Ronaldo’s salary.
Had we not wasted £95m on one player we might actually have some money. Club needs to learn how to negotiate in the transfer window and stop being ripped off.
The club is now relying on Martial to do the business. A players who’s constantly injured and on his 5th chance with the club. Even yesterday he missed a sitter of a header. He doesn’t have the killer instinct to be a top level centre forward.
Had we not wasted £95m on one player we might actually have some money. Club needs to learn how to negotiate in the transfer window and stop being ripped off.
The club is now relying on Martial to do the business. A players who’s constantly injured and on his 5th chance with the club. Even yesterday he missed a sitter of a header. He doesn’t have the killer instinct to be a top level centre forward.
We have more problems than some people realise with our CF shortage. We rely heavily on Rashford who is in very good form atm. However, we get very little help from the wings, midfield and even defence when it comes to scoring. Can’t remember the last time a defender came up for a corner and scored, midfield relies on out of form Bruno, Eriksen (not prolific) and Fred (haphazard). Casemiro does pop up with the odd goal but Shaw, Malaccia /Dalot Lindelof and McGuire do very little when playing in terms of goal threat. Not much coming from either Antony or Sancho, when available. So when it comes to goals we are relying almost entirely on Rashford, in great form, and Martial who thinks work rate is not for him, when fit. Worst of all this situation will not be resolved until either new owners appear or we make it to end of season.
If we don’t get at least a back up striker this month it will be fingers crossed that we don’t lose anyone, especially Rashford, to injury or loss of form until the end of season. All EtH’s work will be then be lost and we start again next season.
If we don’t get at least a back up striker this month it will be fingers crossed that we don’t lose anyone, especially Rashford, to injury or loss of form until the end of season. All EtH’s work will be then be lost and we start again next season.
Yeah, I agree, preferably the first two as they are more “proper strikers” which I think we need. It would be good to get them on six months with the option to extend for a year if they work out OK, even if after the summer they become more a squad option.
You mean Arnautovic who is 1 behind the top goal scorer in the Italian league and 2 in front of our top goalscorer?You’re all going to be sooooo disappointed when we go back in for Arnautovic on deadline day
£84m and that includes all the ad ons. Not sure how the deal was structured fully but it won’t be up front and will depend on specific criteria being hit.
Still an awful lot though.
Yeah we are crying out for a CF with that killer instinct no doubt about it
Why does it always have to be a stop-gap. Can we not just fecking buy a top striker and be done with it. Our last real buy in this position was probably Robin Van Persie over a decade ago.
You do wonder if we actually need two loan CF's with our distinct lack of goals,however can't see it happening whatsoever
Not until the summer nope because skint