Because he at first was going for it and then realized he was offside so let's it run but it's literally like a 2 second thing. Watch the video. He shows early enough that he's going to let it run, and there are no defenders around him. He can run after it and then abandon touching it without it being offside.
Was Rashford interfering with play?
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They changed that over a decade ago, so no...
He's not sure if he's offside and is initially going for the ball but Bruno calls him and he pulls out at no point getting in the way of anyone.
From whom? Akanji was 6 feet away and the ball was rolling towards where Bruno was heading.
By his own admission, Akanji did not challenge for the ball, because he thought Rashford was offside, so no need to worry about Bruno. It's a miscalcualtion on his part, not a machination from Rashford.
Why should it be offside? Are we going back to the ‘if you’re beyond the last man, you’re offside’ now?
The law is pretty clear for interfering.
1. if the defender is impeded by the player in an offside position.
2. The offside player touches the ball.
Rashford did neither. City know the rules, their defenders let that happening by not playing to the whistle. All their defender had to do was touch rashford and instead he ran with him for 30 yards and watched him not touch the ball. He got done by a smart move and a player who clearly knew the rules.
And therein lies the problem. Just deal with it and stop presuming stuff will happen because you think it might.
He wasn't. The City defence took the gamble that he'd be flagged offside once he touched it so let him go. Rashford realized he was plus noticed Bruno in his peripheral vision. So he slowed down and let Bruno clean them out. Clear goal. With the current state of that law gambling like that can be way costly.
This is my thinking. The handball law was changed so that "intent" was not part of the decision because it's impossible to accurately gauge intent. It's the same for offside, it's almost impossible to gauge if a player in an offside position is interfering with play because you don't know what a defender was thinking. The laws of the game are getting away from subjective decision like this for the ref and overall I think that is a good thing. There will be controversies like this goal, but overall there should be fewer problems.
When he starts his run he thinks he is onside. Otherwise why bother.
Looks like he is about to touch it when he probably realises he is off and sees Bruno so he is actually trying his best to stay away from the ball. Just instinct, some great luck and timing and it happened very fast.
I think you are giving Rashy far too much credit to say he planned it all out to run 30 yards, actively shield the ball, know Bruno was coming, not touch it and fake out 2 defenders and the keeper all in this space of 4 seconds.
I know he is in good form but that is some fantasy land shit
That's the way it should be is what I'm saying. But it's not so it's a clear goal
Bruno was screaming for him to leave it, which is why Rashford did. None of the city players reacted to him screaming at the top of his lungs because they were waiting for the flag.When he starts his run he thinks he is onside. Otherwise why bother.
Looks like he is about to touch it when he probably realises he is off and sees Bruno so he is actually trying his best to stay away from the ball. Just instinct, some great luck and timing and happened it very fast.
I think you are giving Rashy far too much credit to say he planned it all out to run 30 yards, actively shield the ball, know Bruno was coming, not touch it and fake out 2 defenders and the keeper all in this space of 4 seconds.
I know he is in good form but that is some fantasy land shit
There was a reason why he ran straight to the linesman after he scored, he saw that happening before he even arrived at the ball to hit it.
And why should it be that way? Because you want it to? People keep saying it should be offside and then can’t come up with a reason to why it should other than “because I think it is”
The difference is Alexis also handballed it in the build up.
Bruno screaming but I thought Rashy still almost hit it.
It’s a difficult one because he doesn’t touch the ball and the defenders don’t appear to be impeded by him physically but they must of changed their approach thinking it was offside therefore you could argue he effected the run of play. Like others have said who cares though nice to see you beat city.
Bruno screaming but I thought Rashy still almost hit it.
He looked like he was! I think he intended to which is why he was over the ball at one point but then he slams the breaks on when Bruno gives the shoutSo what you’re saying is the defenders didn’t deal with it as they should because they thought it was offside? Who’s fault is that then?
City deserve it also, couldn’t happen to a nicer team.
Because I think the second an offside player makes themselves active by going for a ball he should be flagged. He might not physically effect the play but he has to mentally effect the defenders. This is more evident in the salah goal where the defender thought he had to try and cut the pass out. The flag should go up then once salah goes for it.
But again this isn't the rule so the goal yesterday was perfectly legitimate.
By the rules the defender. I'm in agreement with you the goal should stand by the way. I'm saying I don't think the rule should be the way it is. And this is from someone that played up front.
Edit shit this wasn't me you replied to.
I know you are and I’m not having a go but the rules are the rules regardless of what we think is right or what’s unfair etc.
For me the defender has to make an attempt to play the ball and then City have a clear case for offside, until then it’s a great move and quick thinking by United.
I'm in total agreement. I even said yesterday all the defender had to do was run into rashford and offside is given. They don't know the rules that's there fault.
The rule seems pretty ambiguous.
It should’ve been disallowed but cares.
city have been cheating since 2008 when they were formed.
city have been cheating since 2008 when they were formed.
And what is more they don't even need to worry about fouling Rashford, as a review of the foul would go back to the earlier offside
To change the subject a little, in all this argument, we've rather neglected to applaud the genius of the Casemiro pass.
Yes fair point and like I said I was glad you beat city. I have no love lost for their fans. In fact one of the reasons I joined this forum and quite like Utd is the behaviour of some City fans in Bristol after we played them in 2018. Contrasted to when we played Utd the year before and the friendly banter between the fans even after Bristol City winning.
On the contrary, the rule is now more carefully stated and specific than it has been in the past
If Rashford is played off side and just stands still, Bruno still scores that goal. It was moving diagonally away from Akanji who had stood still. The fact that Ederson set himself for Rashford to strike the ball is kind of his mistake, because his defender had left Rashford in an offside position. Why he didn't follow the run of Bruno is on him.
Exactly, he could have completely gone through him, two feet, from behind and he’d have gotten away with it.
They’re disgraceful mate, we live next door to them, literally. They’re as small time as it gets and they treat everyone like that.
Maybe it's not a completely free hit
If someone cynically took advantage of this in order to try to injure the player as well, I hope they would still be booked or sent off if appropriate.
I don’t think they liked us chanting “Just like Bristol your City is red” at them though to be honest!
A player is offside is allowed to play on. They dont have to stop playing because another player could touch the ball and make him onside again. Bruno could have misssed, Rashford would have been allowed to net the rebound. Bruno could have passed to Rashford, which would open up a new situation and Rashford could be onside....
Rashford did not hinder any definder or touched the ball, regular goal! Was the defender distracted by Rashford, yes, but thats his problem.
Rashford did not hinder any definder or touched the ball, regular goal! Was the defender distracted by Rashford, yes, but thats his problem.
The goal was regular. We should discuss, is the offside rule fair? No, it is unfair, but it is part of football.
The correct decision was made.
Read what I said. From his view the threat was Rashy. Not Bruno. It’s a nonsense to say Rashy wasn’t interfering. Just a fact.
I used cutting edge technology to show that Akanji was never getting to the ball before Bruno anyway 
Crazy thought but what would the game be like without offside? Or perhaps you can only be offside inside the 18 yard line?
more entertains surely.
more entertains surely.
He did not shield the ball at any stage, he just ran with it. Akanji or any Chelsea player were nowhere near the ball.
I agree that I too thought it's offside but when the laws were explained then technically it's not offside. The players may feel aggrieved but that doesn't make the decision wrong.
One more hypothetical on this—and hypotheticals are useful for thinking through whether or not an interpretation of a rule makes sense—if Bruno had flicked the ball for Rashford to strike it, Rashford would have been onside! At the point of contact Bruno is further forward than Rashford. That possibility means that Bruno’s goal had to stand.