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PL L FA Premier League

West Ham United 2:0 Manchester United

Post-match discussion


Sat, 23 December 2023

cj_sparky

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We offer nothing and as soon as we concede you can expect another.

We look like we work on nothing and thus create nothing.

Club needs a full reset.

Kambwala did well for a first outing and Mainoo was fine until his little error. The experienced players...less said the better, what a bunch for the youngsters to learn from.
 

Smudgers

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Yet another boring lacklustre display , we are a very poor side , no goals again no significant chances , this is shocking for a United side . The lack of energy from some of the players is alarming , Rashford , what’s happened to him he is a shadow of the player he was last year , only bright point , the young lads , felt sorry for Kobe but there were far worse performances than him . We are shocking, sad times !!!!!!
 

The Irish Connection

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Garnacho has to score in the first half but second half we were awful.
World class right winger and centre forward desperately needed, but we have feck all money.
You could argue a top left winger too, given Rashfords form.

Rashford was worse than Hojlund when he came on.

Mctominay woeful in midfield and Mainoo did ok for his age apart from the mistake.

I don’t know what to think. Do we just stick with Ten Hag until next summer and take a mid table finish?

Injuries have been a curse too.
 

djembatheking

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Not too bad really, makeshift team and we only conceded twice. Moyes got West Ham up to 6th now and we struggle away to top half teams so to be expected I suppose. Our players looked devoid of confidence and self belief.
 

redom

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When you don't have a goal threat it gives the opponent huge confidence because they can afford to be patient and wait for a mistake or chance and when they take it it's pretty damn easy to hold the lead, we desperately need to find a way to be more dangerous in the final third.
 

OleGunnar20

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Thats put me in the ETH out camp at long last. Shame as he looked so promising at Ajax, but this is just so far beyond acceptable at this point.

Who do we get in as an interim?
 

Camy89

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It’s sad that I continue to watch our games etc in the hope that in the future if we ever start playing well and winning things, I can say that I stuck with them through this shit.

Utterly depressing take on things.
 

fps

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Thats put me in the ETH out camp at long last. Shame as he looked so promising at Ajax, but this is just so far beyond acceptable at this point.

Who do we get in as an interim?
I may be with you on that, I’m now seriously wavering. Recruitment dismal. Training injuring everyone.
 

DomesticTadpole

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This is why you don't go for the likes of Bowen or Watkins instead of chasing a player who Spurs would never sell to us, City found that out. Now both of those players price will be shooting up out of our range by every game. The Kane saga was the same as the FDJ saga. No other options of quality provided as mentioned in that article yesterday. Yes injuries are a massive issue, but cannot see how we are meant to be playing. Not going to blame this on kids, just learn from the mistakes.
 

Ollie Derbyshire

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Truly pathetic football club now a days I’m afraid, nothing is left from what we used to be and I think there is further to fall yet.
  • Owners need to go
  • Whatever it is Murtaugh and Fletcher do need to go
  • Manager needs to go
  • Coaching team need to go
  • Scouting department needs to go
  • Fitness team need to go
  • Onana, Dalot, AWB, Maguire, Lindelof, Varane, Amrabat, Casemiro, McTominay, Bruno, Antony, Martial, Rashford, Sancho & Pellestri all need to go (probably missing a few others)
The whole club has settled for this rubbish they are serving up.
 

RedIan

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Sell Sancho, VDB, Martial and spend on a top striker.
Barca and RM also interested in Greenwood, could generate a few quid.
 

Murder on Zidane's Floor

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Fraud of a manager, whole career is based off one fecking game five years ago in the UCL.

Well done, you beat Madrid after one of your players got a haloed 10/10 in L'Equipe.

You then gave up a 3-1 lead against Spurs (f*cking Spurs!) inside a half to not make the final.

You then proceeded to get dumped out of the UCL the following year and then the EL by some minnows.

No style of play, cannot appraise talent, dodgy dealings with his agency SEG and his agent having inappropriate access to the club.

It all stinks. Get rid.
 

Plant0x84

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Feck you Moyes
feck you, Moyes.
It’s time to get out of United, Moyes.
What were you even doing there in the first place, Moyes?
You didn’t even get properly elected, Moyes.
Are you happy now, Moyes?
feck you, Moyes.

You could probably copy and paste Glazer/Murtough/ETH in there too dependant on your outlook.
 

afrocentricity

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Soo weak for attackers, a kid in a new team/league, a player broken from excessive injuries, a player with a crisis in confidence, a player that's fallen out with the manager for reasons and a player that had to get loaned out for reasons... things could have been so different. What a shambles
 

Gopher Brown

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The worst bit for me was that when they scored their first, they still looked the most likely to score another. No reaction whatsoever, our players have no resiliance or winning mentality, and that comes from the manager and leaders on the pitch (of which there are none).
 

Woodzy

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This is what happens when you set up conservatively but don’t have the quality up front to score the couple of chances you get and a defence that will struggle to keep a clean sheet.
 

OleGunnar20

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I may be with you on that, I’m now seriously wavering. Recruitment dismal. Training injuring everyone.
Style of play as bad as LVG's darkest days. Barely even an attempt at scoring. Building our team around Scott McTominay. Falling out with players left and right. Morale clearly on the floor.

It's dire times no doubt. What a shame.
 

RoyH1

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We are a warm pile of cow excrement. Owners, coaches, players…the fans are the only saving grace
 

sebsheep

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fecking awful - we are a nothing team: we literally do nothing. and it's time for onana to go to Afcon (or whatever it's called) and stay there. If he's a goalkeeper, I'm a bloody prima ballerina
Team lost blame Onana. Nice.
 

spiriticon

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I thought we would lose and I haven't been disappointed.

To be honest, there's not a lot of matches these days where I've thought we weren't going to lose.
 

JediSith

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No systematic system of attack like city
No spontaneous creativity like for West Ham

We are just a dull club. Boring to watch. Can put in an underdog performance against Liverpool and that’s the highlight of our season.
 

gaffs

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Truly pathetic football club now a days I’m afraid, nothing is left from what we used to be and I think there is further to fall yet.
  • Owners need to go
  • Whatever it is Murtaugh and Fletcher do need to go
  • Manager needs to go
  • Coaching team need to go
  • Scouting department needs to go
  • Fitness team need to go
  • Onana, Dalot, AWB, Maguire, Lindelof, Varane, Amrabat, Casemiro, McTominay, Bruno, Antony, Martial, Rashford, Sancho & Pellestri all need to go (probably missing a few others)
The whole club has settled for this rubbish they are serving up.
Tend to agree. So much crap at this club.
 

lex talionis

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We need to have a conversation about bringing in an interim manager. Timbers are falling and rats are fleeing the basement.
 

Nogho

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Fraud of a manager, whole career is based off one fecking game five years ago in the UCL.

Well done, you beat Madrid after one of your players got a haloed 10/10 in L'Equipe.

You then gave up a 3-1 lead against Spurs (f*cking Spurs!) inside a half to not make the final.

You then proceeded to get dumped out of the UCL the following year and then the EL by some minnows.

No style of play, cannot appraise talent, dodgy dealings with his agency SEG and his agent having inappropriate access to the club.

It all stinks. Get rid.
Spot on. He doesn’t even seem to care. Just standing there, chewing. I truly hate that chewing.
 

TheRedDevil'sAdvocate

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A small country's GDP spent in the last decade to field a team with Antony-Hojlund-Garnacho up front, a youngster and a nobody in the midfield and a 35 yo Evans at the back. Speaking of Evans, was the team today much worse than the Leicester side he was in that got relegated? This is where we're at, waiting for INEOS to bring Potter in to change oue fortunes...
 

Camy89

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Hopefully these losses reduce the share price and the little American rats can’t make as much money.

Parasites.
 

djembatheking

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West Ham didn`t really have to try, they just coasted through the game and waited for us to make a few mistakes to hand it to them. When things go against us there is no pride in the players to fight back.
 

lost7

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Our two best players, Bruno and Rashford, are mediocre players who wouldn't start in any of the other top 4 teams. Ten Hag may not be the man, but we have such a mediocre squad. I'd honestly consider clearing every single player and start with a new fresh squad because they are all mediocre overrated shyte
 

ayushreddevil9

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Except our stupid money grabbing owners don't seem to realise it needs to happen and quickly so they can get to work. Otherwise it will get even worse.
They don't care whatsoever. This mentality stems from them.
 

Player Ratings

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Score Predictions

93,55,35
  • Man Utd win
  • West Ham win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 28% West Ham 1:2 Man Utd
  • 12% West Ham 2:0 Man Utd
  • 12% West Ham 1:1 Man Utd
  • 9% West Ham 0:2 Man Utd
  • 8% West Ham 2:1 Man Utd
  • 6% West Ham 1:3 Man Utd
  • 5% West Ham 1:0 Man Utd
  • 4% West Ham 2:2 Man Utd
  • 4% West Ham 0:1 Man Utd
  • 3% West Ham 0:0 Man Utd
  • 3% West Ham 3:1 Man Utd
  • 3% West Ham 0:3 Man Utd
  • 2% West Ham 3:0 Man Utd
  • 1% West Ham 1:4 Man Utd
  • 1% West Ham 4:0 Man Utd
  • 1% West Ham 9:0 Man Utd
  • 1% West Ham 2:3 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. West Ham
  2. Man Utd
Possession
35% 65%
Shots
12 11
Shots on Target
5 3
Corners
4 4
Fouls
13 15

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