And just like that, Bayern controls their own destiny again. Win out and they are champions. Granted, winning out looks unlikely given their current injury crisis but the thought might help their mentality.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Why? Because for once they did against Leverkusen and not Bayern?
Had they done it against Bayern everybody would have celebrated.
Union or Bremen didn't okay differently.
Welcome in champions race Leverkusen. Let's see, whether they handle the mounting pressure better than Dortmund last year.
So far they have been very lucky with injuries at least compared to Bayern.
Oh, come on. Last season's title race was decided in your favor by a disastrous referee error. And Bayern fans and their media are still bringing up our penalty against you guys despite that being a clear foul on Hofmann.
Already crying? You‘ll only be one point behind after losing to Bayern. There’s still hope!
Of course.
Because Bundesliga is a tragically broken competition and I admire your ability to even care about the title race anymore.
I absolutely understand what you mean and yes, there have been uneventful titles over the last years. But last season‘s win was fantastic and this one is shaping up to be good as well.
No idea what you are talking about. I never even mentioned the ref.
It's just nice to see other teams struggling against a low block.
You guys been very lucky this season so far. How many times you won a match in extra time?
It will be a long season for Bayer. I love these tight title races. So please don't do a Leverkusen too early.
You're right, I got carried away! By the current rate, you probably have to pl!!y the bus driver (and I don't mean Ribery) as a CB after match day 23, so no idea why I took this so personallyAlready crying? You‘ll only be one point behind after losing to Bayern. There’s still hope!
Apologies! Misinterpreted that in the heat of the moment
I will never understand the common perception among football fans that winning late is somehow inherently lucky
Turns out our shit win yesterday was a big win.
Expensive but looking at Bayern‘s RB situation: needed!
Jesus, are you referring to the penalty non call at Bochum?
When I read your post yesterday I couldnt understand what you were referring. If it is the Bochum one, it is apparently so bad that my brain decided to not remember it unless forced to.
Did that referee suffer conequences ? If there was not VAR we could call that an error. With things being the way they are, I have no doubt it was deliberate.
This thread bumped and it's not about Karlsruhe demolishing Hamburg in their own ground? What is this?!
An English speaking board where people know nothing about Karlsruhe and probably think it’s the graveyard where Charlemagne is buried.
Like I said, inexcusable!
It’s up to you to set this injustice right. I believe in you.
I am a big supporter of anyone beating up that horrible club HSV so I hope that you can forgive my ignorance for not knowing that the mighty KSC took them on today!
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Remember, when I said I am peace with getting relegated due to our limited resources. I lied. Not in this snail race between us, Mainz and Cologne. I want to strangle our braindead coach. In comparison to the rest of our squad Andreas Müller is Lionel Messi, in quality and size. Last game he came on at HT against Frankfurt at 0-2 down and he ran the midfield show to earn a 2-2 draw. The reward? He´s back on the bench against Union, because they are too physical for him, who won 92% of his duels. To top it all off, when we are predictably down again, cause our midfield is slower than dead tortoises, he remains the only un-used sub, when chasing a goal.
F*** my life. And they cannot afford to fire the manager, cause they extended his contract until eternity before the season for no reason.
F*** my life. And they cannot afford to fire the manager, cause they extended his contract until eternity before the season for no reason.
Dortmund take the lead through Füllkrug. Another stuttered shite pen though. Hate them.
Schloterbeck has been such a disappointment since moving to Dortmund. Looked like a talented player but has been nothing much average since moving, he's at Ginter level of disappointment.
Sule has been quite bad since moving as well, maybe it's something in Dortmund.
Sule has been quite bad since moving as well, maybe it's something in Dortmund.
That was one of the most unnecessary own goals I've seen
Such a horrible match in terms of quality. So many false touches and misplaced passes.
That is because we miss times when players like Scholl, Hassler, Buchwald played. Bring Hassler and Scholl back.
And the legend Sean Dundee!
Ginter was/is a player, who is farily good all around, but has few/no stand out qualities. Schlotterbeck however is clearly very talented at lots of things: aggressive defending, forcing quick transitions after winning the ball and building attacks in general. He's very well suited to the modern game in theory, the goal in Newcastle was a good showcase of what he adds to the team when he's on top of his game. So his issue isn't talent, it's concentration and consistency.
Some players grow out of this, some don't. He's just turned 24 and only halfway through his second season at a big club. It's too early to write him off.
Pardon me but I can't remember Buchwald ever playing for Karlsruhe.
There was a time when Karlsruhe was our favorite feeder club. Scholl, Kreuzer, Sternkopf and most of all Oliver Kahn.
I’m pretty sure he did in 90’s. Otherwise, why do I remember him playing there.
You are correct. He finished his career there after coming back from playing in Japan. But he is most famous for playing for VfB Stuttgart.
And he does not even use them. It is not a muscle injury - but we know how easy Coman gets injured. He just came back from a muscle injury he had at the end of the old year. The first match prior to the days in Portugal he just was a substitute - but after it he was playing nearly full matches on Sunday, Wednesday and started again Saturday afternoon on Augsburg turf... I do not think it is really surprising. His longer injuries in the past always seem to come short after winter- or summer break.
I think the team did not have a free day since coming back from Portugal.
The Coman injury was just bad luck. The Augsburg player just fell on his leg and bended the knee awkwardly. Nothing you can do against such injuries. Same with Kimmich's shoulder injury.
May bad then. I remember he went to Japan at the end of his career but didn't know he joined Karlsruhe afterwards.
He was like 36 at the time he played in Karlsruhe. Wasn't particularly noteworthy, but a club like KSC having a world cup champion play for them is always kind of nice
You had even 2 didn't you? Haessler played there several years even in his prime, if my memory doesn't trick me.
He did! To this day I have no idea what kind of black magic brought an absolute legend like Icke, in his prime, to Karlsruhe. Fantastic player, real role model professional as well
Karlsruhe in the early and mid nineties had been quite successful. Comparable to Frankfurt these days.
I remember Schäfer talking about the KSC 2000 or something like that, only to have disastrous season in 97/98 and going down to the second division.
Unlike the FCK which got relegated 2 years earlier and got immediately promoted the following year, Karlsruhe for some reason couldn't turn the tide and got stuck in Liga 2 for several years.
Well, while we're on the topic, KSC 2000 was a Schmieder (long time president from the 80's till the late 90's iirc) project. However it was the relegation to the third division 99/00 that really killed the club off. We had spent more than we had to get back up and it backfired terribly. The relegation into the third division also meant our second team (that almost won promotion from the third division that season!) had to be relegated too and despite coming back to 2.Bundesliga relatively quickly things have never been the same, the pipeline of talent tried up (save the occasional good one like Stindl and later Hakan). Hoffenheim buying/poaching 5 generations of our youth academy with "Fahrtgeld" didn't help either. Also DFB relegated us via a Jahn Regensburg dive back to the now existing 3.Bundesliga and then the now famous Gräfe decision against Hamburg. Add to that the hilarious fact we actually had a game were one of the referees did jail time for bending it and the DFB decided it wasn't bent enough for a replay (3.12.2004 vs Duisburg). All of that led some of our support to just say feck it, what's the point.
Slowly but surely we are currently building ourselves up to be fecked over by DFB again.
*Spent some years of my youth there, that's why I care.
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Excellent summary, yeah. KSC 2000 was all Schmieder and biting off more than you can chew.
I was there when Marcelo Diaz scored that freekick. Still haunts me and I take great pleasure in seeing Hamburg going from unrelegateable to unpromotable. The decision wasn't their fault, but feck them regardless
Thanks. I don't really blame Hamburg, and them being fecked over with 14 minutes in Heidenheim last season (where Heidenheim was practically allowed to play until promoted) has worn off any bad feelings towards them. Other than their coach I don't dislike them. For me it was the accumulation of so much DFB bs that led to so many KSC fans becoming bitter about HSV, but they didn't dive or do anything dirty (looking at you Regensburg), they just did what I'd expect our players to do, and did it well (Diaz).
Anyway all is well that ends well and I am content with just about all German fans hating DFL/DFB these days.
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Sterni was most successful as a Bravo poster boy I honestly can't remember any match where he proved what an alleged talent he was. And Kreuzer.. Well in today's football even defenders need *some* football skill. It was always fun watching him warming up. I completely suck at football and my keepie-uppie all time record is 4 times. So was his
(but he was pretty good as a man marker. Poor man's Jürgen Kohler)