Recent content by Roux

VAR should have overturned the penalty.

Erik Ten Hag on what's causing their injuries: "We have an idea but we'll work on that internally, we will deal with it." To me, this statement seems like the issue is self-inflicted - either with medical team, coaching staff or overworking players in training etc and they will try to correct it.

Odd statement. Nobody would dispute this or has made this comparison.

Nobody is saying this. It's moreso the other way round - they don't rapidly decline after 50yo and achieve less success.

Being relative, as you say - it makes it even harder to define levels of success, because I agree when you say sometimes staying up from relegation is success. It's a hard thing to quantify. So again, no idea how you could come up with such a blanket statement with no real facts/data about how...

Well yes - the point is that they didn't just suddenly stop becoming successful after 50yo, if anything, the trend shows them winning more post 50yo - Fergie was the same. Nobody is going to turn down Pep or Klopp when they push 60, Klopp is almost 57 and could win the PL in a few months.

That's not what we're arguing, you can be just as successful at 55 as you can be at 45 - plenty of managers have proven this in the PL alone.

You're confusing yourself here. You said the following: "managers tend to have success before 50 and decline in their early 50s." You then said choose your own metric. I posted the CL and PL lists to disprove your point. The PL ages/winners in particular are in favour of over 50's being...

You can also look at the PL winners and it's overwhelming in favour of over +50yo. You can go back last 20/30 years, since 2000, last 5 years, since PL began etc and it doesn't support the 'over 50's managers less successful than under 50's' at all.

I did, and also used my own - both disproved what you said. I actually increased the sample size for the full list and it wasn't in your favour. No problem at all with you, just think you threw out something with no validity at all really - upon further research it was clearly wrong.

Urm what? You literally said post your own metric??? So i used yours and 2 of my own. Yes, if you also want to exclude the others too... Wenger, Pep, Klopp, Conte, Ranieri, Pelligrini etc.. all over 50yo. Problematic is your maths being wrong and now trying to rewrite history by excluding...

Well no, it further proves my point really - if anything - the trajectory, looking at the last 10 years its swung to 50/50 and in the last 5 years it's 4 out of 5 winners being over 50 (Tuchel being 48yo). So it disproves this point below: So going by the bolded text above, in regards to just...

Since 2000 / 9 for over 50 vs 15 for under 50 Last 10 years / 5 for over 50 vs 5 for under 50 - so dead even.

The average age was 50 not 47.

questioning someone's stats is aggression? get a grip.