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Would you take Conte at United?
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Pirlo has also remarked approvingly of Conte's man-management and motivational skills. In his autobiography he recalled how Conte's introductory speech to the Juventus squad left a significant impression on him: "He needed only one speech, with many simple words, to conquer both me and Juventus. He had fire running through his veins and he moved like a viper. 'This squad, dear boys, is coming off two consecutive seventh-place finishes. It's crazy. It's shocking. I am not here for this, so it's time to stop being so crap.'... When Conte speaks, his words assault you. They crash through the doors of your mind. I've lost count of the number of times I've said: 'Hell, Conte said something really spot-on again today
Pirlo has also remarked approvingly of Conte's man-management and motivational skills. In his autobiography he recalled how Conte's introductory speech to the Juventus squad left a significant impression on him: "He needed only one speech, with many simple words, to conquer both me and Juventus. He had fire running through his veins and he moved like a viper. 'This squad, dear boys, is coming off two consecutive seventh-place finishes. It's crazy. It's shocking. I am not here for this, so it's time to stop being so crap.'... When Conte speaks, his words assault you. They crash through the doors of your mind. I've lost count of the number of times I've said: 'Hell, Conte said something really spot-on again today
Conte has won titles in the past and he might well win one again if he came here, but I wouldn't be rushing to put money on him overhauling all three of Guardiola, Klopp and Tuchel in the two or three years he'd last here before pissing off in a huff. Personally, I think I'd prefer to bring someone in who is more suited to the 'cultural reboot' we've banged on about and try to find a modern style of football, played with pace and intensity.
Glazers whinging about 'integrity' 
Would love to hear LVG's thoughts on that when they were making plans for next season with him at the same time that they were in talks with Mourinho.
Not to mention the dividend business and the cronyism
Would love to hear LVG's thoughts on that when they were making plans for next season with him at the same time that they were in talks with Mourinho.
Not to mention the dividend business and the cronyism
Very well coached and something that if a player isn't doing what the coach wants, they are dropped pretty much instantly. He's pretty ruthless if players aren't playing as part of the team. He's used other systems but I'd be shocked if he didn't focus in on a 3-4-3/3-5-2 type to rotate between here, given our players.
Mourinho, Pogba, Mkhitaryan. It went downhill from there.
I agree with you but also see where people are coming from. Van Gaal and Mourinho traumatized us for life.
He will always have a plan to attack the opponent. It will change depending on the opponent. People fall in love with his defensive structure and think he is a defensive coach. He is wonderful coach everywhere. The only short coming is he is not afraid to really piss off players if they are not performing, but not by throwing them under the bus.
Full control? What does he need that for when our squad is absolutely mint from top to bottom, it's just the lack of tactics that are holding them back?
I've warmed up to the idea. He's not my dream appointment at all, but probably the best option we have and he'll give us some much needed structure. Don't think he'd be here long-term but I'd take him for a year or two, sure.
One issue with Conte is I don't see how Sancho fits in as Conte doesn't play with wingers. But then Sancho probably shouldn't have been signed in the first place.
I'm sure he would frustrate a lot of us with his team selections and the players he decides to freeze out, but at the same time I feel he's exactly what we need right now. He doesn't take any crap, isn't afraid to make tough decisions and any player kicking up a fuss or out of form would be dropped. That's exactly what the current coaching staff don't have the balls to do, which leads to complacency in the players who are Ole's favorites and results in poor form.
He took an average Chelsea team to the title in no time and I was always a fan of his passion for the game in terms of his animation on the touch line. I'd love to see that with him as a United manager. For me it's him or Rogers. I'm not keen on Zidane.
He took an average Chelsea team to the title in no time and I was always a fan of his passion for the game in terms of his animation on the touch line. I'd love to see that with him as a United manager. For me it's him or Rogers. I'm not keen on Zidane.
No point going for Conte now if the plan is to replace him with someone like ten hag in 2 years time. They are polar opposites
The club’s “self-proclaimed cultural reboot” went out the window when a much improved second half of the 19/20 season, where young players like Mason and new signings like Bruno brought us on leaps and bounds, was followed by an absolutely shambolic transfer window where a 33 year old Cavani was brought in to save it at the last second. These clowns running the club are awful.
Presumably because Inter fecked him over by selling players he wanted to keep.
I'm staggered the vote is so low in his favour. Did nobody watch his Chelsea team? They regularly ended up 235 in attack. They played with both wingers acting as inside forwards, no defensive mid, and steamrolled the league.
Our squad is tailor made for something similar. He was also the one who made Pogba into a star at Juve to begin with.
Our squad is tailor made for something similar. He was also the one who made Pogba into a star at Juve to begin with.
You can add Chelsea to that motivation.
He's not going anywhere anytime soon, is he?
I've always seen Chelsea fans speak glowingly of Conte, and their only regret being his fallout with Costa.
Do you think he would fit United?
Agree. i would like Conte but Sancho would become an issue. Sancho as a purely attacking and hardly defending rwb (like Hakimi) doesnt really seem an option. Or the way Tuchel uses Hudson-Odoi?
Finally got Sancho, only to not have a spot in the team for him anymore...
Cultural reboot. What the hell is that?
Sandpaper lips Rodgers? No thanks.
We don't sell anybody anyway.
And he was proven right because Costa was finished after 2017.
Yes.
Not just as a general point. Every manager brings his style, shopping list and discard/unsettle list.
Any manager that plays 5-3-2 (or 3-5-2, potatoe/potato) is a horrendous mismatch for our squad. 3-4-3 is still a mismatch.
The only scenario in which you would remotely contemplate renewed squad upheaval is a long term project. But then, a Manchester United long term project should be expansive, so our squad should not be in for major surgery as far as Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho are concerned.
So basically Conte is the exact opposite of what we should be looking for.
Give Conte this season and the next. Basically a 2 year deal, then see where we are at. No long term damage done and the option exists for him to stay should things go well. Keeps options open for both sides.
Conte is really not that different than ten Hag. Yes, there are obvious differences, but people seem to ignore the fact that pressing and positioning are something both of them are really basing their football on. Conte's teams can defend in middle and low blocks, but they also press much, much more and much higher than what teams perceived as defensive do.
To put it this way, if ten Hag was to become United manager after Solskjaer or after Conte, he'd have a much more ready squad for what he wants to play after Conte. Positional awareness, pressing and playing out from back are all things that Conte successfuly incorporates into his teams.
And people, would you please stop with that 3-5-2 crap, he has played 3-4-3 incredibly successfuly.
To put it this way, if ten Hag was to become United manager after Solskjaer or after Conte, he'd have a much more ready squad for what he wants to play after Conte. Positional awareness, pressing and playing out from back are all things that Conte successfuly incorporates into his teams.
And people, would you please stop with that 3-5-2 crap, he has played 3-4-3 incredibly successfuly.
It’s a failed project
This is my biggest worry tbh.
343 would solve some of that but it still leaves us with a problem on where to fit Bruno and Pogba.
I'm undecided on Conte but I know that Ole needs to go. We should have sacked him after the EL final and got a replacement in the summer but yeah...
Tough situation right now.
Bang on.
As Conte won't have the same following as Ole. If he plays s*** football Caf will be on him by the end of the season.
One good thing to come from this omnishambles is the reawakening of the inner muppet.
Tactically Conte is an excellent manager, he will get Utd organised within a few weeks to a month. People are saying they don't know how Sancho will fit in, but my bigger question would be over AWB and CR7. Cannot see AWB lasting long when asked to play so high up the field and CR7 isn't going to get away with zero pressing.
Conte played 343 at Chelsea with Hazard & Pedro.
In the 343 Sancho's a perfect fit, as the wingers end up playing as inside forwards with full license to come inside, which he likes to do.
I don't know where this myth that Conte doesn't use wingers is coming from, but it's total nonsense.
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I'd trust more resident Chelsea fans here than people who clearly dont have a clue about Conte other than bohoo he's a defensive coach, he will be awful for our young players.
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