Rashford out partying at nightclub hours before reporting as too ill to attend training

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Is anybody optimistic about his form & attitude between now and the end of the season? I'm really not convinced.
 

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For what it's worth, I think this has been handled just fine by the club. What he did was out of order, he has been disciplined (probably a fine) and apologised. I'm not sure there's much else to do. Even when he's out of form, he's our best option on the left. However, I do hope he's on his final chance. His attitude has been woeful for long and so have his performances. Someone needs to tell him, "this is your last chance to get your act together and be the best player you can be - if you don't, you'll be shown the door".
For some the fact he isn't taking 10 lashes outside Old Trafford is a travesty by the club
 

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What the feck are people moaning about? He’s been disciplined which probably means a fine, he has apologised and the issue has been dealt with. Move on to the next match. Some people want him parading through the streets of Manchester shouting shame shame shame. Suppose it highlights the people with personal grudges against Rashford rather than issues around his performance alone.
It always happens. People with biases against a certain player want blood rather than being reasonable.
 

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Only sensible outcome for all parties for the rest of the season. We're in no position to jettison one of our few remaining attacking options, and a lengthy disciplinary issue wouldn't reflect well on Rashford.

So, short term, they have to work together and see out the season. Long term, something has got to be sorted in the summer. His on field body language and performances, and off field antics, suggests either there's a personal / professional issue with Rashford, or there's an issue between him and ETH / the club.

if it's solvable then, fine, address it and hopefully he delivers one of his occasional top quality seasons next year. If it's got to the point where it's not solvable here, then the summers the time for both parties to look for an out.

But, for now, it's good for all concerned if they can reach an understanding that at least gets us through the rest of the season with all sides having some kind of an alliance.
Sensible post.
 

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Absolutely, but for why I cannot fathom. I don’t understand why some people are so personally offended by this lad. It’s bizarre how much hate he gets.
Well for me it's his general "I'm not arsed" attitude on the pitch, any player that consistently doesn't put the effort in when playing is going to offend me. But I definitely don't "hate" him, that's a pretty extreme feeling to be feeling about someone you don't even know personally.
 

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Absolutely, but for why I cannot fathom. I don’t understand why some people are so personally offended by this lad. It’s bizarre how much hate he gets.
We pay him Haaland wages to give us Dwight McNeil performances. Is it really that hard to understand? That's before you get into his "face like a slapped arse for an entire season".
 

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We pay him Haaland wages to give us Dwight McNeil performances. Is it really that hard to understand? That's before you get into his "face like a slapped arse for an entire season".
You got a source for that?
 

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Absolutely, but for why I cannot fathom. I don’t understand why some people are so personally offended by this lad. It’s bizarre how much hate he gets.
300k a week to walk about the pitch.
Try the odd attack. Not track back. Hardly ever win a 50/50 aerial/ ground duel.
Never presents himself for a set piece even though he is one of the tallest players.
He never looks happy even after scoring (that one goal ). Must be so boring for him.
Yeah it is bizarre why I'm not happy with him.
 

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Absolutely, but for why I cannot fathom. I don’t understand why some people are so personally offended by this lad. It’s bizarre how much hate he gets.
The man just spent £750k on a night out in Belfast. They're jealous
cool, im happy though because Rashford asked consent before scoring with the girl he met in Laverys
We need players with ice in their veins
 

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Resolved swiftly!

That’s the best thing about this latest drama.

Focus on Thursday now.
 

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We pay him Haaland wages to give us Dwight McNeil performances. Is it really that hard to understand? That's before you get into his "face like a slapped arse for an entire season".
The wages given to Marcus is on the club, not him. Nobody forced the club to give him that contract, and you can be sure he’d get it somewhere else if they hadn’t.
Other than that my point was about personal dislike, not footballing criticism. I think it really does just come down to jealousy in the end. That’s why it’s always about the wages.

300k a week to walk about the pitch.
Try the odd attack. Not track back. Hardly ever win a 50/50 aerial/ ground duel.
Never presents himself for a set piece even though he is one of the tallest players.
He never looks happy even after scoring (that one goal ). Must be so boring for him.
Yeah it is bizarre why I'm not happy with him.
That would be footballing critique. Not what I was talking about.

@Peter van der Gea I think it really does just come down to jealousy in the end. That’s why it’s always about the wages.
 

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Well for me it's his general "I'm not arsed" attitude on the pitch, any player that consistently doesn't put the effort in when playing is going to offend me. But I definitely don't "hate" him, that's a pretty extreme feeling to be feeling about someone you don't even know personally.
I have no issues with people being unhappy with his performances, that’s part and parcel of the game and being a fan. Folk are absolutely entitled to their opinions.
But all the personal name calling stuff, the petty jibes and agendas that go on. It’s pathetic. He’s one of our own, he’s one of if not our best and he should be ‘cared for’ more by own fans - but honestly they seem to give him the most shit.
 

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I imagine he must have been evidently, genuinely ill, and the responsibility for his actions is accounting for the unprofessional optics at being out in a club in Belfast the night before training in Manchester, with the two things unconnected.

If he had been unable to train because he had been drinking and had a hangover, I highly doubt he’d be training again and available for selection on Thursday. That would not be so readily forgiven.
 

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I imagine he must have been evidently, genuinely ill, and the responsibility for his actions is accounting for the unprofessional optics at being out in a club in Belfast the night before training in Manchester, with the two things unconnected.

If he had been unable to train because he had been drinking and had a hangover, I highly doubt he’d be training again and available for selection on Thursday. That would not be so readily forgiven.
Ok cool. I thought he had a hangover or some shit.
 

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I imagine he must have been evidently, genuinely ill, and the responsibility for his actions is accounting for the unprofessional optics at being out in a club in Belfast the night before training in Manchester, with the two things unconnected.

If he had been unable to train because he had been drinking and had a hangover, I highly doubt he’d be training again and available for selection on Thursday. That would not be so readily forgiven.
He was with his agent and another rep today at carrington, you dont need them to talk football
 

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He's nipped to Glasgow for a few pints to celebrate drawing a line under the matter.
 

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The way his disciplinary issues are progressively getting worse, it’s probably going to take him doing Jagerbombs on the the bench for the club to actually realise we might have a problem and a slap on the worst is not enough.
 

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Honestly it feels less like contrition and more like we learned from the shit show of the Sancho affair playing out in public so have shut it down with a definitive statement.

Given our current form and position you don’t accidentally go to Belfast for a night out. He’s 100% taking the piss. Maybe it’s INEOS’ involvement that got a club statement out immediately but I’m not convinced Rashford gives a shit about the club right now. Might stem from Ten Hag / Sancho or just general unrest but he should be leading by example and not going MIA.
 

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It’s highly likely, that every member of this forum is on less than half of what Rashford is getting - without a single exception :)
I think most of us are on less than half per year that he gets a week
 

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Unless we see other better sources substantiating it, I’m not going to stoop to the low of linking tomorrow’s The Sun front page here.

Absolutely gutter press and the Scousers are 100% right on opposing that rag from their city.
 

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I imagine he must have been evidently, genuinely ill, and the responsibility for his actions is accounting for the unprofessional optics at being out in a club in Belfast the night before training in Manchester, with the two things unconnected.

If he had been unable to train because he had been drinking and had a hangover, I highly doubt he’d be training again and available for selection on Thursday. That would not be so readily forgiven.
What?! If he was actually genuinely ill then he’s much less likely to be fit to train this week and play a match this Thursday than if he had a hangover or was just tired when he sat out training on Friday.

His rapid recovery from his “illness” only serves to undermine the narrative you’ve been desperately clinging to. Well, that, the comments from ETH, him and his agent being called in to Carrington, the line about “taking responsibility for his actions” and the whole being fined thing. Along with the fact he felt well enough to decide to spend a night out clubbing less than 12 hours before he was suddenly too ill to train. A timeline that always seemed preposterous.

EDIT: and now we have an eye witness account from a named (and photographed) individual who worked at the bar he was at, confirming he got shitfaced last Thursday night.

But yeah, if we ignore absolutely all of the above then you might be on to something…
 
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Since he was 20, he averages 28 GA per season, despite having one season where he only got 7 after coming back from an operation, mainly from left wing. It really is ludicrous to include seasons when he was 17/18 to try and make a bad point.

Honestly, it’s fine not to like his attitude on the pitch, not like the clothes he wears or think he earns too much money. However, the absolute drivel that gets posted on here about his footballing ability is incredible to behold.
It's his footballing IQ and general seemingly lack of effort that gets the most criticism and rightly so, especially this season
 

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Can we have a poll to speculate the punishment?
We don't need one, we'll find out if he's in the squad on Thursday, if he isn't that means he's been dropped, as a for a fine the maximum allowed is 2 weeks wages
 

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:lol: I can see exactly why you don’t want to link it…
It’s The Sun. It’s an absolute toxic rag that does more to poison the mind of large sections of the British public than any other media outlet. Their entire story is based on the account of one person who got paid for an interview.
 

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It’s The Sun. It’s an absolute toxic rag that does more to poison the mind of large sections of the British public than any other media outlet. Their entire story is based on the account of one person who got paid for an interview.
And she was happy to put her name and face behind the story. So at the very least we know she definitely worked in the bar he was at, or she would immediately be found out.

It all seems extremely plausible to me. Reminds me of a time when a friend of mine in NYC knew a “fixer” who was present throughout a massive bender by Wayne Rooney when he went on a stag in the big apple. That was the first time I realised that contemporary footballers might actually get wankered mid season. I foolishly thought that all died out a long time ago and they all lived like monks these days.
 
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