Tom Van Persie
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Didn’t they go and form FC United?What's the chances of Jassim coming back in on this ? If a new stadium is built , which given the acreage available to club , it would be a sin not to, it will need to be the best in the world with no close rivals. I'm all for nostalgia but what happened all the dudes that moaned about leaving Newton Heath.
Think people are taking the Wembley of the North too literally. He will mean size wise not a carbon copy. He will want the area to become a whole day experience for the fans with great facilities and views in the stadium.I'd tolerate a new stadium if it was in the same location and not based on other stadium's design
would love a single tier stretford end with a prominent standing section
all talk of a 'Northern Wembley' is disappointing. not been to actual Wembley, but nine tenths of people I speak to confirm it is a soulless dome with minimal atmosphere. local area includes investment in Nachos, Carluccios and chain pubs.
Hardly the world class food poisoning we already serve, is it?
I'd tolerate a new stadium if it was in the same location and not based on other stadium's design
would love a single tier stretford end with a prominent standing section
all talk of a 'Northern Wembley' is disappointing. not been to actual Wembley, but nine tenths of people I speak to confirm it is a soulless dome with minimal atmosphere. local area includes investment in Nachos, Carluccios and chain pubs.
Hardly the world class food poisoning we already serve, is it?
I'd tolerate a new stadium if it was in the same location and not based on other stadium's design
would love a single tier stretford end with a prominent standing section
all talk of a 'Northern Wembley' is disappointing. not been to actual Wembley, but nine tenths of people I speak to confirm it is a soulless dome with minimal atmosphere. local area includes investment in Nachos, Carluccios and chain pubs.
Hardly the world class food poisoning we already serve, is it?
Spot on. I'd go far as to say there's nothing wrong with Old Trafford's actual design and it's still a far better design than most of the new builds.
The issue is that it hasn't been well looked after.
People say the seats are very cramped
Try sitting in North tier 3, because of the stupid roof you can't see most of the stadium, or hear it, and they can't see you. Actually the acoustics are completely crap everywhere, crowd noise just gets lost in the roofs somehow. Some of the drinking/eating/toileting areas under the stands are so packed it's not worth getting up for. They could sell way more with more space, before, after, and at half-time.Spot on. I'd go far as to say there's nothing wrong with Old Trafford's actual design and it's still a far better design than most of the new builds.
The issue is that it hasn't been well looked after.
I'm sure they'll find something else to be apoplectic about.Ooooooooh the Neville is dead to me brigade will not like this one!
They are and can't be fixed without demolishing the entire stand and rebuilding it, due to how the concrete terraces are constructed.People say the seats are very cramped
Try sitting in North tier 3, because of the stupid roof you can't see most of the stadium, or hear it, and they can't see you. Actually the acoustics are completely crap everywhere, crowd noise just gets lost in the roofs somehow. Some of the drinking/eating/toileting areas under the stands are so packed it's not worth getting up for. They could sell way more with more space, before, after, and at half-time.
True. To be fair they seem to have their own little ecosystem up there, the regulars seem quite happy.Tier 3 North is just about the worst part of the ground to watch a match from to be fair.
What does 'wouldn't necessarily' mean? I want an example of a modern state of the art stadium with a greater capacity than we have now that would fit.
Ok I'm being totally lazy in not researching it properly myself but in my defence it's the caf that's made me this way. Pick any subject under the sun from medicine to artificial intelligence to archaeology and you can bet several people will come on that genuinely know their stuff and I read their opinions in awe. Football stadiums, not a chance, we seem to know feck-all about them.
To be fair you did note that to fit a larger stadium into the existing plot it would be best to have it 90 degrees to the current, which is more than most did, and it looks that way to me too.I take exception to that.
Sir Jim says preference is a new stadium that could be build beside Old Trafford
Sir Jim says preference is a new stadium that could be build beside Old Trafford
If you think they are bad now you should have seen the old Stretty seats, they were cramped for kids never mind adults!They are and can't be fixed without demolishing the entire stand and rebuilding it, due to how the concrete terraces are constructed.
Interesting developments.
My main concern really is that a mega expensive stadium is gonna result in a huge ticket price hike for fans.
Good man. Sentiment is weakness. United only lose part of its spirit if fans say it does, but history ain’t in the bricks and mortar. Build a brand new stadium that tells the world we are the biggest and best and we will be successful into the future.
Interesting fact about the 1992 construction. It becomes a similar argument to Triggers’ broom in that case.I have been going to OT since 1973 and will be sad to see the old place go but this is 100% the correct way of thinking.Sir Matt said that Manchester United should always be the best an he was forward thinking by taking us into Europe etc.so if we want to follow his philosophy then let’s move forward and be the best.
Don’t forget 75% of OT has been built since 1992 and only the south stand remains from my first game.
I would build a new world class 90000 seater at the back of the stretford end then once opened demolish all but the south stand which could be converted into a museum(built around the old tunnel)plus offices,megastore,bars etc etc.we could close the front of the stand off with a wall to achieve this(like the old Highbury).
keep tradition but move forward.
And that’s from an older red.
Interesting fact about the 1992 construction. It becomes a similar argument to Triggers’ broom in that case.
Interesting fact about the 1992 construction. It becomes a similar argument to Triggers’ broom in that case.
Almost the whole stadium has been changed over the years. It's a great place but to grow we need a new stadium.Old Trafford is a sacred piece of land. It should be protected. It's an emphatic no to a new stadium. Just extend the existing stadium. Please.
Honestly, this is so ingrained in some peoples' minds they are not going to change their mind. I agree though, it holds us back from progressing as a club.Almost the whole stadium has been changed over the years. It's a great place but to grow we need a new stadium.
Old Trafford is a sacred piece of land. It should be protected. It's an emphatic no to a new stadium. Just extend the existing stadium. Please.
I was at the game where they used the new style lights for the first time, I remember thinking they were never gonna be light enough, shows how much I knew but I don't think I was alone in that notionIt‘s far too cramped and out of date.The only way forward is a new stadium.
At the time I was gutted when the stretford end was demolished(I had watched some great players from that old stand)and when the floodlight towers where taken down(I always liked the look of them walking to the ground)because both where traditional at the time but looking back they were the right decisions to move the club forward.
Agree with this. Will be a tough pill to swallow but it's logical to rebuild a new one especially if we can do it across the road. We can also continue to play at OT, no impact on ticket sales, state of the art building, increased capacity (I'd love to see us reach 100k but I think 90k is more likely), cheaper to build new than to reconstruct. What we do now will last for another 100 years and I'm sure the maintenance will be of better quality.Time for new. Change is good.
As fare as I can see there is room to build a new stadium whilst using all the existing one only if the new is no bigger than what we have now.I can understand what SJR is saying about OT. A very good friend of mine has been to Tottenham new stadium and he tells me how fantastic it is.
But in the event that a new stadium is built on the land, where would United play while it is being built.
Or would OT still be able to be used. Pardon my ignorance.
That's the $64, 000 dollar question, I always thought we would still be able to retain OT whilst a new stadium was being builtI can understand what SJR is saying about OT. A very good friend of mine has been to Tottenham new stadium and he tells me how fantastic it is.
But in the event that a new stadium is built on the land, where would United play while it is being built.
Or would OT still be able to be used. Pardon my ignorance.