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    Dazzmondo

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    If that is how it is going to be, so be it. At least SJR will not be under any illusions about that he has taken on.
    It sounds like missing out on CL will be disastrous for us from a FFP perspective. I think Ratcliffe already knows how big the job is. Honestly I'm upset with this lost. I was starting to think we had a good chance of at least top 5. Now I'm pessimistic again. Hojlund still missing too.
     

    DomesticTadpole

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    It sounds like missing out on CL will be disastrous for us from a FFP perspective. I think Ratcliffe already knows how big the job is. Honestly I'm upset with this lost. I was starting to think we had a good chance of at least top 5. Now I'm pessimistic again. Hojlund still missing too.
    I know how you feel. As soon as I heard Rasmus was going to be missing my heart sank.
     

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    Ah don't start that shite ffs.
    im sorry, how on earth can he watch that performance and think ETH is any way the man to take us fwd. whether its the ridiculous lackadaisical start, the absence of any clear plan or the lack of any cohesive tactical changes.
     

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    At least Brighton drew so we are still in good shape for Europa league or Europa conference.
    But all the mood music is we need Champions League this season. That will be for finance and we will budget for that. And the response to what the Glazers-lover says is THIS. Ten Hag to me looks out of his depth. Totally
     
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    How the turn tables with Fergie time. With barely minutes left on the clock even relegation teams feel they can grab a win against us now.
     

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    im sorry, how on earth can he watch that performance and think ETH is any way the man to take us fwd. whether its the ridiculous lackadaisical start, the absence of any clear plan or the lack of any cohesive tactical changes.
    He is just not an inspirational manager. And you need to have personality for the top jobs. He just hasn't got that. He talks like a robot.
     

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    Yep a 20 min cameo where he is poor means he is not good enough. The point you are missing is we don't have a ton of other options. That's why people want to see Amad. At least he has good technique.
    Doesn't have the physical side.
    Huh? He did more in terms of creating danger and controlling situations in his brief cameo than certain players did in the whole 90.
    What danger did he create, apart from to our goal by getting sold by Iwobi for their goal?
     

    Andersons Dietician

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    Doesn't have the physical side.

    What danger did he create, apart from to our goal by getting sold by Iwobi for their goal?
    Sold? Have you spent your life on a couch or have you ever tried changing momentum at full sprint?

    He created lie 3 oppertunities for something to occur and then if Bruno had slipped him in he is running free on goal, ther was also a run Erikson ignored. There was a point where he was calling for the ball to be laid back to him as McT was doddering in the box where it was an easy set for him to just sweep it in with his left and there were two other occasions just like that.

    So yeah for people who are actually observant he did quite well.
     

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    Notwithstanding his lack of personality I don't understand why Rashford and Fernandes are so untouchable. They were both trash.
     
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    Sold? Have you spent your life on a couch or have you ever tried changing momentum at full sprint?

    He created lie 3 oppertunities for something to occur and then if Bruno had slipped him in he is running free on goal, ther was also a run Erikson ignored. There was a point where he was calling for the ball to be laid back to him as McT was doddering in the box where it was an easy set for him to just sweep it in with his left and there were two other occasions just like that.

    So yeah for people who are actually observant he did quite well.
    Then he should have known Iwobi would have always looked to come back onto his right foot.

    If Bruno had passed, if Eriksen had passed, if McTominay had passed,made runs, sure put Fulham to the sword today!
     

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    Notwithstanding his lack of personality I don't understand why Rashford and Fernandes are so untouchable. They were both trash.
    Because the drop off is huge.

    Today's problem was a lack of a striker, Rashford isn't a striker and he doesn't even attempt to play like one. We had nobody holding the ball up bringing others into play.

    The problem is the club have hung their hat on Rashford covering for Hojlund in this situation and it's backfired. ETH needs to be worried, we won't win many whilst Hojlund is out and we have no replacement.
     

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    im sorry, how on earth can he watch that performance and think ETH is any way the man to take us fwd. whether its the ridiculous lackadaisical start, the absence of any clear plan or the lack of any cohesive tactical changes.
    He might not think he's the man to take us forward. But to suggest that anything less than sacking ten Hag tonight makes Ratcliffe unserious is just nonsense.
     

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    I watched the game today with a few pals and we had a "eye on Bruno" at the start of the game.

    Within the first 5 minutes he switched places multiple times. Leaving others unsure of their position. He just cannot keep discipline. Causes uncertainty for others.

    People hark on about his work rate. But it has to be the right type of work rate. Headless chicken doesn't help his team mates.
     

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    @Himannv

    When I watched a lot of youth football - a year or more back, he wasn't really a factor, whereas someone like Hannibal consistently looked like prime Iniesta - I don't know about now.

    @Adnan, @top1whoisman any insight from you folks?
    Forson has never been someone that I thought would make it at United. But with young kids his age it's hard to tell if he's someone that could develop into something that can be useful to the first team in the future.

    What I remember from when he first arrived as a 16 year old, was his physicality, athleticism and ball striking which were all things that did standout for his age, and his position as a attacking midfielder enabled him to score goals and link up with his team mates. And with the way we're playing currently with the players we have, I can see why ten Hag would utilise the physically and athletically superior Forson due to how direct our play is with the injuries we've suffered in comparison to Amad who is technically a superior player imo but probably doesn't have the ball striking and the physical and athletic gifts of a Forson. And if you're playing a more direct game, then I can see why Forson seemed a better bet on the right side where he could cut onto his stronger left foot to shoot on goal.

    But with the injuries to the likes of Shaw and Martinez, it severely weakens our build up capabilities, so I wouldn't really be too harsh on any of our attackers. The problem lies further behind and with the injuries already to key players like Shaw and Martinez, it's always going to be difficult to have possessional control. But on top of that we also lose our central focal point in Hojlund, which makes it even more difficult. And then when you have a midfield 3 of Mainoo, Casemiro and Bruno, it also gives the opponent the physical and athletic advantage which I've been speaking about for far too long. And then we have a backline which doesn't move forward with the rest of the team, which leaves a big space between themselves and the midfielders who have gone to apply the press, whilst the backline stays passive and doesn't move forward to close off the space between themselves and the midfielders. This problem isn't new with the backline and it requires upgrades both on the ball and also without the ball. The second goal is a classic example of Maguire's inability to defend the channel in a 1v1 situation against Adama Traore, which creates space for Fulham to score the winner. That second goal doesn't happen with a strong channel defender.

    So we can be technically superior to the opponent on the ball, but that technical superiority will be drowned out by how the opposition are superior physically and athletically.
     

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    Then he should have known Iwobi would have always looked to come back onto his right foot.

    If Bruno had passed, if Eriksen had passed, if McTominay had passed,made runs, sure put Fulham to the sword today!
    Ah yes so not sprint back at full speed meaning he doesn’t even get near Iwobi.

    If he doesn’t sprint fully he doesn’t even get to him, if he knows he is going to go on his right doesn’t even matter because he couldn’t do anything about it if he doesn’t get in front of him and the only way to do that was travelling at a speed where he has no chance of stopping and changing direction to block the shot.

    He has looked better in his two cameos than a Lot of our senior players and given you don’t seem to understand how inertia works it’s no surprise that you can’t see the quality is there.
     

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    Ah yes so not sprint back at full speed meaning he doesn’t even get near Iwobi.

    If he doesn’t sprint fully he doesn’t even get to him, if he knows he is going to go on his right doesn’t even matter because he couldn’t do anything about it if he doesn’t get in front of him and the only way to do that was travelling at a speed where he has no chance of stopping and changing direction to block the shot.

    He has looked better in his two cameos than a Lot of our senior players and given you don’t seem to understand how inertia works it’s no surprise that you can’t see the quality is there.
    It's a possibility a don't know how inertia works, but I'm not about to have a lesson from you about it, as you don't either, if you feel the performance from Amad today offered more than a lot of our senior players.
     

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    It's a possibility a don't know how inertia works, but I'm not about to have a lesson from you about it, as you don't either, if you feel the performance from Amad today offered more than a lot of our senior players.
    Our players could learn a lot from his Barca performances.
     

    Ricardo de la Vega

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    I watched the game today with a few pals and we had a "eye on Bruno" at the start of the game.

    Within the first 5 minutes he switched places multiple times. Leaving others unsure of their position. He just cannot keep discipline. Causes uncertainty for others.

    People hark on about his work rate. But it has to be the right type of work rate. Headless chicken doesn't help his team mates.
    Its depressing when you watch him actively like that and count the number of times he just gives the ball away.
     
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