When it's slowed down it looks like it comes off Mac Allister's chest before Dokus boot to me?!
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It's so unbelievable and horrible that there's such an obvious conflict of interest in the best league in the world, and nothing is being done about it
If we'd not go that pen late on, the whole thread would have been losing their biscuit.Carra doesn't think it's a pen to be fair.
Though, imagine if that was for us and Nev said it wasn't a penalty. His thread would be going mental
Someone loves Klopp and hates themselves for it.
Obviously.
Like the goal against Spurs.
Like the basketball handball from Odegard.
LiVARpool.
I also think it is a big difference to the situation with Ederson last week - Ederson made clean contact with the ball and the ball was cleared from the situation. Here Doku barely touches the ball and the ball is still very close to the situation which sort of nullifies the 'he got to the ball first'.
Do you mean like Martin “NBA” Odegaard?
It might have been, but It's not automatically a foul when you rush into a falling ball trying to chest it(or kick it) and make contact with the opponent, because there is also something in the rulebook called unavoidable contact, meant to deal with those situations where two people are looking at the ball and going for it at the same time, no matter which part of your body you are using. VAR ruled it off based on this rule, wrong or not.
Thing is, even if he doesn't think it's a foul... Shouldn't he give an IDFK for a high foot?
To be fair, you got one borderline penalty earlier in the game. Can’t get them every time.
No, it wouldn’t be, but I’m not sure what your hypothetical has got to do with this incident?
He DIDN’T throw himself into Doku’s foot and Doku DID kick him in the chest. In football, that’s called dangerous play and in the penalty area, that is a penalty every day of the week and twice on Sundays (ironic?
).I don‘t know anyone who wants Liverpool to lose week, in, week out, more than I do… I’d love to see them relegated. But that’s still a pen.
I mean that one genuinely was a stonewall penalty. Nothing borderline about it.
Hardly touched him, and Nunez was going nowhere.
Let’s see when it becomes obvious that I’m kidding.
It was given as a penalty when Scott McTominay did that in the home game against FC Copenhagen
It's more complicated than that under current rules. If two people are looking at a falling ball and going at it, it might fall under "unavoidable contact" no matter what body parts you are using, which was the conclusion in the VAR room, wrong or not.
We deserved to win but it’s not all bad considering. I would have more pissed off if we had played like that all in second half with the chances missed had MacAllister missed his penalty. That would really have sucked.
I think the international break has come at a good time for City before they next okay Arsenal, might just help them recoup and hold off Arsenal momentum when they visit. A draw between them or City win, and a win for us in next game puts us back on top.
I think the international break has come at a good time for City before they next okay Arsenal, might just help them recoup and hold off Arsenal momentum when they visit. A draw between them or City win, and a win for us in next game puts us back on top.
You'd be happy with playon if that happened in midfield?
No point in comparing decisions in Europe with the PL as they clearly interprets rules differently. But as far as I remember Scott didn't touch the ball which certainly makes some difference.
Ahhh, sorry I missed that Doku didn’t stud him in the face… that makes all the difference.
No foul then…
I don’t agree with you. Doku kicked the ball. MacAllister went into Dokus foot with his chest. It is not like MacAllister headed the ball and Doku karate kicked him. For me this is not penalty.No, it wouldn’t be, but I’m not sure what your hypothetical has got to do with this incident?
He DIDN’T throw himself into Doku’s foot and Doku DID kick him in the chest. In football, that’s called dangerous play and in the penalty area, that is a penalty every day of the week and twice on Sundays (ironic?
I don‘t know anyone who wants Liverpool to lose week, in, week out, more than I do… I’d love to see them relegated. But that’s still a pen.
It’s not complicated, and it’s not unavoidable… it’s wrong.
How on earth does someone go into someone with the chest
And if his foot’s that high to reach his chest then that’s normally a foul.Studs were pointed down and no contact?
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If that isn't a foul, I have no idea what the rules are any more.
McT made much less contact if anything
Are you factoring in Doku getting a skim on the ball so fine that only a HD tv would show it though?No, it wouldn’t be, but I’m not sure what your hypothetical has got to do with this incident?
He DIDN’T throw himself into Doku’s foot and Doku DID kick him in the chest. In football, that’s called dangerous play and in the penalty area, that is a penalty every day of the week and twice on Sundays (ironic?
I don‘t know anyone who wants Liverpool to lose week, in, week out, more than I do… I’d love to see them relegated. But that’s still a pen.
Fine margins here and I think doku is lucky here particularly because there is a slight touch on the ball by him rather than Mc Allister. If he didn’t touch the ball it would be a totally different issue.
I caught that but on balance, I thought the studs being 4 foot off the ground and hitting him in the chest outweighed it. Call me a traditionalist.
To be honest, once one poster started with “he went for the ball”, I gave up. Wanted a draw, more chance of Arsenal (the third worst option of three awful options) winning the league
Shouldn't be a foul. Not a foul. Nani shouldn't have been sent off.
Just remember he slightly skimmed the ball, and ignore the not even looking around him and recklessly waving his stud 5 foot in the air, and it's all good.
Imagine how horrible it'd have been if they'd won that late on. We'd all still be fuming now, hours later.
It isn’t that difficult. Or do you think Phil Jones should be getting freekicks / penalties every time he went diving head first? Throwing himself towards ball where players wouldn’t even put their feet.How on earth does someone go into someone with the chest
You're conflating two different things here.
No, Nani shouldn't have been sent off, but even the most deluded United fan wouldn't say that wasn't a foul!
It's the sort of idiocy that people say in jest isn't it.How on earth does someone go into someone with the chest
Leg went into their studs, after a 2 footer etc.
That guys on a different planet though. He’d try and head a ball that was on the floor so that shouldn’t be a foul. If someone’s got there feet up to your chest when your trying to chest a ball and he catches you then it’s a foul. End of story really
Oh, right you are
But I still don't know... If you run 20 yards to throw your chest into someone's studs I think it should be game on
This one was more of a foul, although everything about this remains funny (Vidic's approval, Lampard ignoring Drogba, the yellow card)
How is anyone saying that isn’t a penalty? He didn’t get the ball and studded him in the chest, I don’t see the point in VAR if it is t overturning that. I wanted City to win as well but that’s a penalty
Very bizarre scenario.Oh, right you are
But I still don't know... If you run 20 yards to throw your chest into someone's studs I think it should be game on
This one was more of a foul, although everything about this remains funny (Vidic's approval, Lampard ignoring Drogba, the yellow card)
Evans going to ground made it look like he'd been fouled, especially with Drogba sprinting in.
Drogba also had a massive rep for cheating and going down very very easily, which for a 15stone absolute behemoth of power was ludicrous.
Caught the second half of the Liverpool game in the pub. Quite a few United in cheering them on, weird. Exhilarating half of footy though, can’t say we’ve seen that this season. Stonewall pen turned down at the end too, and all the shots of the woodwork, hilarious.
As it is, I can message my work mate (Liverpool fan) several times and saying “never a penalty in a million years”?
I see it less as hypocrisy and more as ‘banter’. He seems very worked up by it
Liverpool fans who genuinely believe they are hard done by are the worst.As it is, I can message my work mate (Liverpool fan) several times and saying “never a penalty in a million years”?
I see it less as hypocrisy and more as ‘banter’. He seems very worked up by it
A little surprised Mac Allister wasn't penalised for injuring Doku's foot!