Sjor Harmsopoly R1 - Enigma vs Physio

With players at their listed peak, who would win? (only votes accompanied by a comment count)


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Enigma Tactics

Formation: 4-3-3, Direct, quick transitions and hitting the opposition with pace.

Defence:

At the heart of the defence we have one of Argentina's finest - Daniel Passarella, who is playing in his natural LCB role. Right next to him is Forster who is one of the best markers in the game, taking care of the opposition striker mainly. Ruud Krol will be playing in a balanced full back role, supporting the attack when proceedings are on the left flank and also holding fort in the defensive phase. On the right Zanetti will be in his natural attacking right back role.

Midfield:
Franz Beckenbauer
will play sorts of a libero role that most likely he would occupy if he played today as he is the midfield general that would affect the game more from just in front of the defence. He can initiate the attacks, start move from deep but also protect the back four and sniff out the opposition danger when called upon. Alongside Kaiser Franz, we have Robson in his natural B2B role complimented with Sir Bobby in the attacking third. Robson will be playing as advanced playmaker, linking defence with attack and also probing for goal and attacking the box. On the right we have Bruno Conti - one of Roma's greatest who will be right winger on his natural side, although he could play on both flanks. His trickery, pace and directness will help gain numerical advantage when taking on the opposition defender and allowing space for Eusebio and RvP in the box.

Attack:
A mouthwatering duo we have the Benfica's most renown player in Eusebio who will play in his natural SS role, probing the flank and also attacking the box. His natural instinct and goalscoring prowess will make it really hard to be contained especially with the service getting from behind. Robin van Persie plays in his striker role of his late and peak Arsenal days.

Advantages:
- all of our players are in their peak form. They either made their name in the team chosen or are in at their career peak.
- rock solid defence shielded by one of the GOAT's in the game.
- Sir Bobby, Eusebio and RvP have a lot of goals in their game each of them contributing with different aspects to the team.

Beckenbauer at his peak:
Midfield battle with Charlton - always worth a look
Excellent all round display by Charlton for the NT.

And a great compilation from @harms of Eusebio scoring a hattrick.

Physio Tactics

Tactics
– Direct/ Mixed
Formation – 334 in possession/ 442 is the organised defensive phase
Defensive Line – Balanced
Marking – Zonal

This team is built around the complete game of Lother Matthaus. In this side he can influence every phase of the game. In possession, Mauro Silva steps up to DM to be the extra man in midfield to allow Matthaus to rampage forward; Nilton and Battiston tuck in to make a back 3 with Rio– from what I have seen Battiston is an old-school defensive full-back; Nilton for all his reputation as an attacking full-back never really got forward that much and as a right footer at left back was more of a playmaking LB so I think he will suit this role here very well. Out of possession Matthaus takes up a more normal CM position to hold the fort and get stuck in. Schuster was a tough tackling playmaker and will provide silky creativity to complement Matthaus’s all action game.

The rest of the side is pretty straight forward with young Weah as the dynamic, powerhouse forward who likes to drop deep playing off peak Batigol. Schneider was a good technical wide midfielder who peaked at one of the worst times for the German NT in the early 2000s and so is unfairly forgotten. Piet Keizer was regarded as Ajax’s best player prior to Cruyff and was an exceptional left-winger with great dribbling and crossing skills. Lastly Rinat Dasayev exceptional shot stopping ability will make the defence even more difficult to penetrate.

Young George Weah


Patrick Battiston


Bernd Schneider

 

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Voted for Enigma as their team has higher star quality and I don't buy Physio's defense
 

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Enigma's team is ridiculous.

Nice to see a 3-1-4-2 for a change, but I don't see Eusebio against Battiston, without the support of a nearby wing-back, ending well.
 

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Voted Enigma for the overall quality in his side. Especially his front three is a perfect match & should bring the best out of Eusebio. A few functional overlaps I don't like too much - there's one main man too many for me in the middle (MF & CB), sometimes I prefer a water carrier to a superstar. Also, from what I've seen, Krol + Passarella liked similar spaces in buildup, add the inverted, floating LFW in front of them. But Charlton can give additional wide presence, tbf.

I prefer Physio's midfield actually, and I had thought of Nilton as a great LCB option as well (don't know anything about Battiston). Nice little detail is that Schneider used to play RB occasionally, which will probably help here. But Enigma's attacking potential is still too good imo, and I think they'll exploit spaces on the flanks to break down Physio's defense.
 

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Yeah, it’s hard to look past Enigma’s star-studded side.
 

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I think Enigma would be better off with more of a 442. It may well play out like that but having Conti a bit deeper will allow more freedom for Robson to get forward.

I'm also not convinced of Krol at LB. If it is the younger Krol he was a pretty attacking LB, not someone you would want alongside Passarella if Passarella is to play his natural game; the older Krol was a libero.

I do think my midfield trio is more complementary than Enigma's with clear roles creating lots of bite and creativity. I think Battiston vs Eusebio is being overdone a bit since Mauro will drop into CB and Schneider will help out in the organised defensive phase (I revert in a 442). It could be a problem in transition but the back three can pull rightwards to minimise the space.

Also van Persie only scored 2 goals in 8 games against Rio.
 

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Enigma's team is ridiculous.

Nice to see a 3-1-4-2 for a change, but I don't see Eusebio against Battiston, without the support of a nearby wing-back, ending well.
Cheers, Gio. Indeed Eusebio should be in his element here playing off RvP and generally has also Charlton who can drift wide and open up space in the middle.
 

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Voted Enigma for the overall quality in his side. Especially his front three is a perfect match & should bring the best out of Eusebio. A few functional overlaps I don't like too much - there's one main man too many for me in the middle (MF & CB), sometimes I prefer a water carrier to a superstar. Also, from what I've seen, Krol + Passarella liked similar spaces in buildup, add the inverted, floating LFW in front of them. But Charlton can give additional wide presence, tbf.

I prefer Physio's midfield actually, and I had thought of Nilton as a great LCB option as well (don't know anything about Battiston). Nice little detail is that Schneider used to play RB occasionally, which will probably help here. But Enigma's attacking potential is still too good imo, and I think they'll exploit spaces on the flanks to break down Physio's defense.
Tbh I definitely like to underline the Charlton role as I thought about going 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 before the game with Charlton in a wide use role as he also was a winger in his younger days. Beckenbauer can keep shape and step into the middle and be paired with Robson and a hard working Conti stretching up the play on the right.

not that this is much different mind as on the other hand the 4-3-3 counters Physio’s main strength in midfield by overloading it on our side too.

as for the midfield I do think the Beckenbauer/Robson and Charlton bring different dimensions to our play and everyone has something to add up.

of course I can understand your preference for Physio midfield as frankly it’s fantastic as well.

Krol / Passarella imo compliment well because Krol was always the much better full back defensively to Suurbier at Ajax whilst of course having the knack of going forward although more balanced which imo is why is a better fit to Passarella. Having both of them imo makes us better press resistant too so it’s overall a good thing :)
 

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I think Enigma would be better off with more of a 442. It may well play out like that but having Conti a bit deeper will allow more freedom for Robson to get forward.

I'm also not convinced of Krol at LB. If it is the younger Krol he was a pretty attacking LB, not someone you would want alongside Passarella if Passarella is to play his natural game; the older Krol was a libero.

I do think my midfield trio is more complementary than Enigma's with clear roles creating lots of bite and creativity. I think Battiston vs Eusebio is being overdone a bit since Mauro will drop into CB and Schneider will help out in the organised defensive phase (I revert in a 442). It could be a problem in transition but the back three can pull rightwards to minimise the space.

Also van Persie only scored 2 goals in 8 games against Rio.
Tbh as I’ve explained I thought about the 4-4-2, but again not much different to the current setup given the personnel.

As for Krol, and example balanced performance:


He’s pretty efficient in the build up and rarely holds onto the ball for too long. Especially in the first half you can see him very rarely coming inside (probably 1-2 times) and was minding the opposition winger whilst also participating in the build up close to the wing.

he either kept it simple or was stretching play when he saw an open space in front of him.

As for your midfield I definitely like it just a minor thing I’d probably just switch Schuster and Matthaus as Schuster would be in his young self as a RCM.

Overall not much to criticise I think we just have more quality between the lines and some favourable matchups in Eusebio/ Battiston, Conti and Zanetti vs Nilton as Kaizer wasn’t much help defensively so we can gain superiority there and Charlton between the lines.
 

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As for your midfield I definitely like it just a minor thing I’d probably just switch Schuster and Matthaus as Schuster would be in his young self as a RCM.
Will watch the Krol vid when I have time. On thus specific point, IIRC Matthaus preferred RCM and wanted him to be prioritised. Could be wrong about Matthaus though
 

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Enigma's team somehow looks even better than I'd expected. Best team in the draft so far probably. I suppose RVP's peak is on the short side overall, especially here with his first season for Utd shaven off, but it's nice to see him making an appearance and he looks like an excellent foil for Eusebio.
 

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Yeah, Enigma's dice rolling was too powerful here. :lol:

Maybe I'm ignorant of him doing it in the past, but I'm not a huge fan of the setup with Silva dropping to CB out of possession. Seems like it would restrict Nilton going forward as well.
 

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Maybe I'm ignorant of him doing it in the past, but I'm not a huge fan of the setup with Silva dropping to CB out of possession. Seems like it would restrict Nilton going forward as well.
True it does but I was always much more impressed with his playmaking from deep than his overlapping. Having Mauro Silva as a DM/CB hybrid liberates Matthaus to really attack and play his two way game.
 

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Good game @Physiocrat . I’d echo what the others said that is one scary midfield and really interesting side both in dynamics and personnel.
 

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True it does but I was always much more impressed with his playmaking from deep than his overlapping. Having Mauro Silva as a DM/CB hybrid liberates Matthaus to really attack and play his two way game.
Yeah I wouldn't describe him as much of an overlapper (very few that I've seen from that era were), but he was someone who liked to get forward and support the attack. Djalma on the other side seemed like a more natural fit for that kind of kind of role.
 

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Yeah I wouldn't describe him as much of an overlapper (very few that I've seen from that era were), but he was someone who liked to get forward and support the attack. Djalma on the other side seemed like a more natural fit for that kind of kind of role.
That was more because Garrincha was uber attacking than that Djalma wasn't great going forward but I see your point.