If ten Hag was sacked tonight, who would you have as an interim?

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Ole. As much as I despise his tenure as manager he has the number on Pep, and as a club legend a major trophy under his name would be really nice.
 

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Some commentator who failed as manager but knows how to act all hard and constantly says "it's not good enough". I do however prefer a guy from the dark ages.
 

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Ole. As much as I despise his tenure as manager he has the number on Pep, and as a club legend a major trophy under his name would be really nice.
Rocking in for a 90minute game isn't worthy of a cup in his name, it would have a huge asterx on it.

Besides hel get played off the park by them all the same.
 

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Ole had most of his players suited to his system effectively fit for him. Ten Hag beat Liverpool without Casemiro, any CF, Licha and no left back. What's your point?

I'm not getting hustled into a silly side debate. My point was never that Ole ball was worse than what we saw against Coventry.

Ole was a manager for vibes and hi5s, allowing ill discipline to seep through, not really focusing on a structure and yes having form against Pep that let's face it, was never sustainable had he stayed. For an interim he's obviously not a play, and it would send a shite message to the squad too.

Like it or lump it, ten hag got us to 3 finals in 2 years. It's more than likely that he won't see beyond the season but we should let the man finish it because we wouldn't be any better off from an interim for such a small handful of games left.
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I dont even have a twitter account. An interim is pointless, especially one who has poor pedigree in finals. Not rocket science.
Ole as an interim shouldn't be an option. Anyone who thinks vibes, hi-fi and manager without tactical set up and knowledge finishes top 2 and 3 in PL should just give up football. It's really not for them.

Ole even mentioned many times how he wants his team to play, more often than not that's how we played. It's just that it wasn't good enough.

It was much better than the shit served today by the tactical genius who gives up chances to opponents as easy as City breaking rules.
 

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Ole as an interim shouldn't be an option. Anyone who thinks vibes, hi-fi and manager without tactical set up and knowledge finishes top 2 and 3 in PL should just give up football. It's really not for them.

Ole even mentioned many times how he wants his team to play, more often than not that's how we played. It's just that it wasn't good enough.

It was much better than the shit served today by the tactical genius who gives up chances to opponents as easy as City breaking rules.
Again, I'm not saying Ole ball was worse than what we saw this season. I don't know why you keep hammering that point.

Ole finished 2nd in a covid year that masks the pressure of full stadiums and momentum in games. He had a squad with a weak mentality that bottled games when we had packed stadiums again.

He also came out in press conferences and devalued the importance of tactics. He's a very basic manager and essentially not even much of a coach. He should never be coming near the club in a managerial or coaching capacity, and that's irrelevant of how bad Ten Hag has been this season.
 

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Again, I'm not saying Ole ball was worse than what we saw this season. I don't know why you keep hammering that point.

Ole finished 2nd in a covid year that masks the pressure of full stadiums and momentum in games. He had a squad with a weak mentality that bottled games when we had packed stadiums again.

He also came out in press conferences and devalued the importance of tactics. He's a very basic manager and essentially not even much of a coach. He should never be coming near the club in a managerial or coaching capacity, and that's irrelevant of how bad Ten Hag has been this season.
There are few for whom what's said on PC is more important than what is seen on the pitch.

Also i repeat this point as according to you it's just vibes and hi-fi with ole whereas EtH is some tactical genius when it couldn't be far from truth.

If anything EtH is the most basic manager we had and that includes all the care taker manager and full time manager since SAF. No personality, no tactical set up, just full of excuses.
 

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There are few for whom what's said on PC is more important than what is seen on the pitch.

Also i repeat this point as according to you it's just vibes and hi-fi with ole whereas EtH is some tactical genius when it couldn't be far from truth.

If anything EtH is the most basic manager we had and that includes all the care taker manager and full time manager since SAF. No personality, no tactical set up, just full of excuses.
Thats quite a bullshit statement. Hes had ex players endorsing his tactical acumen and the same from managerial peers. He's had no season quite as bad as this which points more to this being a one off to his form compared to Ole, who has form for flopping in England.

Moreover Ole himself has devalued the importance of tactics openly in a press conference and delegated this responsibility to Mckenna and Carrick. He's also terrible for instilling squad discipline as long as he had a happy squad.
 

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If the plan is to bring in Potter you might as well do that asap, even if I don't agree with the choice.
 

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Thats quite a bullshit statement. Hes had ex players endorsing his tactical acumen and the same from managerial peers. He's had no season quite as bad as this which points more to this being a one off to his form compared to Ole, who has form for flopping in England.

Moreover Ole himself has devalued the importance of tactics openly in a press conference and delegated this responsibility to Mckenna and Carrick. He's also terrible for instilling squad discipline as long as he had a happy squad.
Do you even watch games or just read papers.
 

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Almost nobody good would come here to only manage for 7 games.

Ole knew how to play against City, though. I don't believe anybody is getting us a win against City, but he's probably our most realistic bet. 7 games only. No getting the job even if he won.
 

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Ole finished 2nd in a covid year that masks the pressure of full stadiums and momentum in games. He had a squad with a weak mentality that bottled games when we had packed stadiums again.

He also came out in press conferences and devalued the importance of tactics. He's a very basic manager and essentially not even much of a coach. He should never be coming near the club in a managerial or coaching capacity, and that's irrelevant of how bad Ten Hag has been this season.

I don't understand what that is always being brought up.

Firstly, all teams played under such conditions.

Two sides of the same coin. The crowd can also be a hugh factor in driving teams on.
 

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Whilst I agree the manager has really struggled to implement anything this season and injuries cannot really be the defining excuse for success or failure, I just cannot get rid of the feeling these players are literally un-coachable either because they are blatantly not good enough or lack the desire to succeed.

A new manager with these same players is going to change absolutely nothing.

If ETH was sacked then I'd only be happy if 6 or 7 of these players followed him out the door.
 

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Ole without a doubt with Skinner, Giggs and Pep as assistants
 

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I don't understand what that is always being brought up.

Firstly, all teams played under such conditions.

Two sides of the same coin. The crowd can also be a hugh factor in driving teams on.
Ask the poster that brought it up. Yes, all teams play under the same conditions, but those conditions favour the mentally fragile.
 

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He said it live in a press conference, not that your rebuttal is worthy of a proper reply.
Maybe try to watch games and see what's happening instead of going with "manager said this, player said that".

He is doing worse than previous managers is every metric, only reason people rate him highly even though it's a shit show is because of interviews and Ajax. Nothing to do with what's happening on the pitch, it's all about reputation and what they said in PC.

EtH must be some different level of shit if he can't even do better than vibes manager. Worse possession stats and this season not even 50% possession, without checking I'm sure this is the worse than in any season.

PossessionRankShotsRankShots againstRankXgRankXAGRankXGDRank
2019-2055.9514.3410.3562.2437.7224.54
2020-2155.6513.8414.5860.1441.4418.64
2022-2353.8615.6517.31267.7650.4817.36
2023-2449.71014917.92047.2125916-11.715
 

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Ask the poster that brought it up. Yes, all teams play under the same conditions, but those conditions favour the mentally fragile.
:lol: What a rubbish argument, just excuses like the mighty EtH.
 

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Maybe try to watch games and see what's happening instead of going with "manager said this, player said that".

He is doing worse than previous managers is every metric, only reason people rate him highly even though it's a shit show is because of interviews and Ajax. Nothing to do with what's happening on the pitch, it's all about reputation and what they said in PC.

EtH must be some different level of shit if he can't even do better than vibes manager. Worse possession stats and this season not even 50% possession, without checking I'm sure this is the worse than in any season.

PossessionRankShotsRankShots againstRankXgRankXAGRankXGDRank
2019-2055.9514.3410.3562.2437.7224.54
2020-2155.6513.8414.5860.1441.4418.64
2022-2353.8615.6517.31267.7650.4817.36
2023-2449.71014917.92047.2125916-11.715
Are you broken? This is a serious question.
I'm in agreement that this season we are absolutely terrible. But I am saying that this season is actually not characteristic of Ten Hag as a coach, and he has form for well executed and intricate tactical systems.

Don't try and claim I don't watch the games, I've probably seen and been to more than you have mate. Suggesting I only read the papers and dont watch the games is such a "rubbish argument".
 

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Keane until the end of the season would be absolutely amazing. Seeing him tear all the wasters a new one.

In reality it would be Mclaren.
 

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:lol: What a rubbish argument, just excuses like the mighty EtH.
Youre right - completely coincidental we bottled every final, semi final and collapsed the minute stadiums got packed again. You do you.
 

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I know you're reading this thread, Jim! Get Ole at the wheel today!
 

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Are you broken? This is a serious question.
I'm in agreement that this season we are absolutely terrible. But I am saying that this season is actually not characteristic of Ten Hag as a coach, and he has form for well executed and intricate tactical systems.

Don't try and claim I don't watch the games, I've probably seen and been to more than you have mate. Suggesting I only read the papers and dont watch the games is such a "rubbish argument".
Youre right - completely coincidental we bottled every final, semi final and collapsed the minute stadiums got packed again. You do you.

fecking hell, what a waste of time.
 
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Fans don't care about super cups. Fans don't care about LC trophy. Fans don't care about FA cup trophy. Fans don't even want their club playing in EL or Conference league....

That is culture which failed Cardiff manager brought to this club. Smiles all around, good vibes and talk about good old times. And everything is juuuuuuuust fine. Yeah, lets bring him back.
 

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Fans don't care about super cups. Fans don't care about LC trophy. Fans don't care about FA cup trophy. Fans don't even want their club playing in EL or Conference league....

That is culture which failed Cardiff manager brought to this club. Smiles all around, good vibes and talk about good old times. And everything is juuuuuuuust fine. Yeah, lets bring him back.
The real trophy is the friends we made along the way.
 

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Fans don't care about super cups. Fans don't care about LC trophy. Fans don't care about FA cup trophy. Fans don't even want their club playing in EL or Conference league....

That is culture which failed Cardiff manager brought to this club. Smiles all around, good vibes and talk about good old times. And everything is juuuuuuuust fine. Yeah, lets bring him back.
You have issues
 

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I find in favour of Roonster09.

Mr. Ten Hag,

You are dismissed, without compensation, at the end of the season.

You may also leave now if you so wish.
 

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Fans don't care about super cups. Fans don't care about LC trophy. Fans don't care about FA cup trophy. Fans don't even want their club playing in EL or Conference league....

That is culture which failed Cardiff manager brought to this club. Smiles all around, good vibes and talk about good old times. And everything is juuuuuuuust fine. Yeah, lets bring him back.
Oh dear
 

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On a clear and agreed interim basis to see how they do? Potter.
 

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So people want to replace United's second worst manager with the first. Great idea.
Literally amazing isnt it. Goldfish memory or rose tinted spectacles? I think some people genuinely think we played good football under Ole.
 

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I want Ten Hag gone in the summer but at this stage what would be the point of bringing in an interim manager now? We are 7th in the league and can’t qualify for the Champions League. To be honest not having Europa or Conference league would be beneficial for these group of players as they can’t deal with the fixture list. We haven’t got a big enough and quality squad and I suspect some big names will be shifted in the summer.

Rangnick didn’t exactly work when he came in. Our options would be limited with who we can appoint. We may as well be patient, I can’t see Ten Hag surviving the summer after the abysmal season. I’m sure it’s to do clauses in his contract regarding compensation payments and our lack of funding with FFP which has delayed the inevitable.